mac os on pc

[heedoyiu]

has anyone been able to make mac x work on a non mac pc

 

[n0cmonkey]

PearPC.
Macintosh machines _are_ Personal Computers.
There are internal builds for x86 based processors, but so far no leaks.

EDIT: Oh yeah, search.

 

[loup garou]

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/

 

[heedoyiu]

great link thank you

 

[SUOrangeman]

Anyone try Darwin/OpenDarwin?

I've downloaded it, but have yet to give it a shot.

-SUO

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: SUOrangeman
Anyone try Darwin/OpenDarwin?

I've downloaded it, but have yet to give it a shot.

-SUO

I'm using it right now on my powerbook, but I suspect it won't be as good without the Apple parts.

 

[wallsfd949]

Cherry OS
I can't comment on how well this works, but the early reviews indicated a 3Ghz P4 would emulate a ~1Ghz G4

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: wallsfd949
Cherry OS
I can't comment on how well this works, but the early reviews indicated a 3Ghz P4 would emulate a ~1Ghz G4

Wasn't that just the repackaged pearpc stuff?

 

[KeyserSoze]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: wallsfd949
Cherry OS
I can't comment on how well this works, but the early reviews indicated a 3Ghz P4 would emulate a ~1Ghz G4

Wasn't that just the repackaged pearpc stuff?

Yeah, it was basically found out to be a big hoax/scam, whatever.




KeyserSoze

 

[heedoyiu]

is everyone else crossing their fingers on longhorn? xp was a upgrade yet some of xp's services and physical look sucked the ram right out of the comp. i can not count how many comps get bloated from all the meager bull s*** progs running on them

 

[Promit]

Darwin runs natively on x86 as well. Not that it's good for much, but it does.

 

[The Green Bean]

just bumping this thread with all the rumours of apple finally moving to x86. When will we see OSx on our desktops?

 

[daniel1113]

Yep.

PearPC is actually fairly usable, too.

 

[SLCentral]

Originally posted by: hatim
just bumping this thread with all the rumours of apple finally moving to x86. When will we see OSx on our desktops?

You won't. If you somehow do get by the restrictions Apple will put to make sure no one does this (probably a hardware restriction), there's the issue of drivers. OS X will not include any drivers needed to run on a white-box PC.

 

[MBrown]

will they use intel motherboards as well?

 

[bersl2]

Originally posted by: SLCentral

Originally posted by: hatim
just bumping this thread with all the rumours of apple finally moving to x86. When will we see OSx on our desktops?

You won't. If you somehow do get by the restrictions Apple will put to make sure no one does this (probably a hardware restriction), there's the issue of drivers. OS X will not include any drivers needed to run on a white-box PC.

Mach is open, the FreeBSD-derived personality that runs on top of it is open, and the basic userland is open. It's possible to make OSX work on any hardware, if you can keep from breaking API/ABI compatability with Apple's binary components, while still adding the drivers. Because if you can get such a kernel underneath the OSX components, you can lie about the hardware to your heart's desire, and the applications won't know the difference (this is the same principle by which rootkits work, except that a good rootkit has to insert itself into a live kernel ).

 

[SLCentral]

Originally posted by: bersl2

Originally posted by: SLCentral

Originally posted by: hatim
just bumping this thread with all the rumours of apple finally moving to x86. When will we see OSx on our desktops?

You won't. If you somehow do get by the restrictions Apple will put to make sure no one does this (probably a hardware restriction), there's the issue of drivers. OS X will not include any drivers needed to run on a white-box PC.

Mach is open, the FreeBSD-derived personality that runs on top of it is open, and the basic userland is open. It's possible to make OSX work on any hardware, if you can keep from breaking API/ABI compatability with Apple's binary components, while still adding the drivers. Because if you can get such a kernel underneath the OSX components, you can lie about the hardware to your heart's desire, and the applications won't know the difference (this is the same principle by which rootkits work, except that a good rootkit has to insert itself into a live kernel ).

Have fun writing drivers :beer:. LOL, though I suppose it would be worth it to be able to run OS X.

 

[Wuzup101]

Apple will make sure that you won't be able to run OSX on any PeeCee out there. Now, I know there is someone out there that will figure out how, but with the amout of work that person will have to do it will hardly be worth it. Lets just put it this way, I can't wait to buy my next Powerbook... it's going to put my current one to shame. All the benifits of OSX and the beauity of a powerbook w/ the speed and power usage of a P-M... hehe...

 

[linuxconvert]

So a dual boot XP/Tiger is out of the question?

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: bersl2
Mach is open, the FreeBSD-derived personality that runs on top of it is open, and the basic userland is open. It's possible to make OSX work on any hardware, if you can keep from breaking API/ABI compatability with Apple's binary components, while still adding the drivers. Because if you can get such a kernel underneath the OSX components, you can lie about the hardware to your heart's desire, and the applications won't know the difference (this is the same principle by which rootkits work, except that a good rootkit has to insert itself into a live kernel ).

Errmm, you still can't get the proprietary code to run on another architecture without either the source code or an instruction set emulator (like Rosetta I wonder if you could get Aqua running on Rosetta?)

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: kamper

Originally posted by: bersl2
Mach is open, the FreeBSD-derived personality that runs on top of it is open, and the basic userland is open. It's possible to make OSX work on any hardware, if you can keep from breaking API/ABI compatability with Apple's binary components, while still adding the drivers. Because if you can get such a kernel underneath the OSX components, you can lie about the hardware to your heart's desire, and the applications won't know the difference (this is the same principle by which rootkits work, except that a good rootkit has to insert itself into a live kernel ).

Errmm, you still can't get the proprietary code to run on another architecture without either the source code or an instruction set emulator (like Rosetta I wonder if you could get Aqua running on Rosetta?)

But it's no longer a different architecture...

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: linuxconvert
So a dual boot XP/Tiger is out of the question?

I think the general opinion is that it will be possible on Apple hardware, when that comes out. But I don't think that too many people outside of Apple really know for sure how different the rest of the hardware will be. We'll probably hear about it when people get a chance to fool around with the dev machines that Apple is renting out over the next year.

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: kamper

Originally posted by: bersl2
Mach is open, the FreeBSD-derived personality that runs on top of it is open, and the basic userland is open. It's possible to make OSX work on any hardware, if you can keep from breaking API/ABI compatability with Apple's binary components, while still adding the drivers. Because if you can get such a kernel underneath the OSX components, you can lie about the hardware to your heart's desire, and the applications won't know the difference (this is the same principle by which rootkits work, except that a good rootkit has to insert itself into a live kernel ).

Errmm, you still can't get the proprietary code to run on another architecture without either the source code or an instruction set emulator (like Rosetta I wonder if you could get Aqua running on Rosetta?)

But it's no longer a different architecture...

Ah, I assumed he was talking about the currently available operating system, instead of what will be coming out. My bad.