Mac users Are Weird

[TheManiac]

I'm the network admin at an Advertising agency, you wanna talk about some MAC cultists, I have to deal with them everyday. Them and their hockey puck mice!

 

[guyver01]

Mac's used to be superior inside with their "ALL SCSI" components... these days it's just a plain ole PC with all IDE interfaces.

You could format that sucker and run WIN2K and noone would know the difference

 

[misle]

I'm the support guy in my all Mac office. We are a publications department at University of Missouri. I must say that OS 9.x is the absolute worst, most unstable OS I've ever used! I have user crashes everyday that are just unexplained. I have to run Disk First Aid and Norton's Utilities at least weekly on the computers. We have all kinds of stupid problems, Quark XPress is the worst, most unstable piece of crap I've ever used! And for some reason everyone wants to use Netscape 6 (which is horrible) because they don't want to use IE5 because it's MS!?

>>A: Crashes less often (although none of my computers crash often unless I'm running netscape/ie)
Umm.... No, Win2k or SGI is the way to go. OS9 is very unstable

>>B: Better Photoshop interface
I could be wrong, but the Photoshop interface on a PC is almost identical.

>>C: Better look and feel
It does have a better look (display), but I don't know about the feel. I mean that Apple Keyboards suck and a 1 button mouse? Come on.

>>D: Actually has a personality (this is the ones you windows zealots won't understand)
Personality? Why because when it starts up there is a smiley face?

>>A: Lower quality color matching
I don't believe so. Our color matching sucks, while printing services here on campus (PC's) have very good color matching.

>>B: Worse CMYK handiling capabilites
I don't know about this... I really just don't know, no sarcasm intended

>>C: Worse versions of Quark XPress
I think any version of Quark XPress is the worst

>>D: Lower printing capabilities
I don't agree.

Just the opinion of a guy who works on 24 Macs everyday...

Matt

 

<< Personality? Why because when it starts up there is a smiley face? >>


ROTF.

- Happy Mac
- Sad Mac
:Q - Dead Mac

 

[PliotronX]

hahahaha a Tomagotchi Mac

&quot;Feed me with ripoff video cards and $200 RAM!!&quot; <poops on keyboard> <gets sick> <needs attention>

 

[BDawg]

>>A: Crashes less often (although none of my computers crash often unless I'm running netscape/ie)
>Umm.... No, Win2k or SGI is the way to go. OS9 is very unstable

FYI, my copies of OS 9 don't crash...on a bad week, it might happen once, but it's always by running netscape. Maybe your's can be blamed on incompetent systems support?

And our servers are SGI Irix. I run these too.

>>B: Better Photoshop interface
>I could be wrong, but the Photoshop interface on a PC is almost identical.

You see how almost doesn't quite equal identical?

>>C: Better look and feel
>It does have a better look (display), but I don't know about the feel. I mean that Apple Keyboards suck and a 1 button mouse? Come on.

I don't have a problem with a 1 button mouse. Granted, my 5 button mouse is nice for games on my PC, but you can buy them for Macs too. Here, we get rid of the hockey pucks.

>>D: Actually has a personality (this is the ones you windows zealots won't understand)
>Personality? Why because when it starts up there is a smiley face?

I can't even begin to argue your ignorance...

>>A: Lower quality color matching
>I don't believe so. Our color matching sucks, while printing services here on campus (PC's) have very good color matching.

Again, I blame the Systems support.

>>B: Worse CMYK handiling capabilites
>I don't know about this... I really just don't know, no sarcasm intended

This is a big known difference. PCs really lag behind in CMYK (printing) support.

>>C: Worse versions of Quark XPress
>I think any version of Quark XPress is the worst

I agree 100%. It's a piece of crap program that is very good at what it does.

>>D: Lower printing capabilities
>I don't agree.

See CMYK post. Laserwriter and AdobePS drivers for Mac are much nicer than their PC counterparts.

>Just the opinion of a guy who works on 24 Macs everyday...

Same here for someone who works on more.

What you all fail to grasp is that PCs are better in some areas. Macs are better in others. The single sided blindness gets you nowhere.

Personally, I think Jobs is a great BSer who is very good at software and design, but lacking in the hardware category. He's done a lot of good things, but isn't the 2nd coming of Jesus.

 

[Pyro]

&quot;>>D: Actually has a personality (this is the ones you windows zealots won't understand)
>Personality? Why because when it starts up there is a smiley face?

I can't even begin to argue your ignorance...&quot;


let me get this straight. You are actually using &quot;Personality&quot; as an argument to try and prove macs are better? What kindda idiot are you? Probably new new kind I haven't heard about.

A computer is a machine. A powerful one, but still just a machine. It doesnt have any more &quot;personality&quot; than a toaster does. If you change the OS, the theme, the case, the monitor or anything else, it doesnt change its 'personality'. why? Because it never had any to start with!

Now, if you think all machines have personality, then perhaps you should spend more time with a psychaitrist and less time on AT.

 

[GoldenTiger]

Macs SUCK!

 

[Pepsi90919]

<< Maybe your's can be blamed on incompetent systems support? >>

Haha...it's funny you have to resort to that to get your point across. If there was one, that is.

 

[emonkey]

I cant say macs suck because im a big fan, but they definitely sealed their own caskets. If only they stopped being so damn proprietary id be running on still, but since they want you to use their overpriced hardware then they cant be surprised theyre losing customers. Too bad because Mac definitely has the power to be innovative. Check out OS X and that Titanium Powerbook...

 

[Hiero]

Mac users think they are on a crusade. They liken themselves to Lennon, Gandhi, Einstein, and Dirac. Pathetic

 

[BDawg]

Pyro, there's a lot of things you haven't heard of.

As for the systems comment, my argument is that our mac run very well.

If yours crashes a lot, it says something about you. Same goes for PCs. People who claim Win95/98/NT etc crash a lot are doing something wrong.

The problem here is that I can see both sides of the coin.

 

[Pyro]

I agree with you VERY strongly Hiero. Not only to they think they are on some crusade, but they also think that using macs somehow makes them better! They arrogance is nothing short of astounding!

 

[KevinH]

Whatta complete mook. Personality my ass. Typical Mac user self-defense mechanism. If you're gonna associate personality with a computer, you have issues my brother.

 

[Pyro]

I guess you're right BDawg. If I go into Psychiatry instead of computer engineering or science, then I'd probably see a lot more cases like you.

 

[Deicide]

A friend of mine just got a new Dual-G4 workstation, with the new cinema flat screen display and stick speakers that Mac just came out with. I must admit, the system is awesome to look at, its aesthetics are much better than any PC out there. I agree with everyone on the OS part, I don't have any reason to own one, but he does lots of video editing and photoshop work, and his old Dell Dual Xeon workstation and Oxygen video card couldn't keep up with the things he wanted to do. The Mac is better at video production than PCs, without a doubt.

He also got a new SGI workstation, Dual Xeon 1ghz procs, custom video card, etc etc, for 3D work. I like that one better

 

[Sugadaddy]

<< My Mac is still more productive and useful than my PC (G3 266 vs PIII 933 &amp; Athlon 700). >>



LOL, a G3-266 more productive than a P3-933, you have got to be kidding.



<< FYI, my copies of OS 9 don't crash...on a bad week, it might happen once, but it's always by running netscape >>



Yeah, they're always an excuse for a crash... My comp doesn't even crash once a week in win98, and never crashed once when I had win2k installed for more than a month.

I do agree on some points you've made, and I know Macs are better in certain areas, but trying to convince people a G3 running OS9 is &quot;more productive&quot; and more stable than a P3 running win2k is just ridiculous.

 

[kazeakuma]

Personally I think look and feel/personality crap is worth 1000 times less than functionality. It's only for some stupid marketing value. And I have yet to see macs do really well what PCs do really well, network. I used to help run a 400+ PC network running NT. There was one Lab of 20 macs which gave us more problems than the PCs combined.

Show me a Mac that can do 3D modelling like my baby SGI workstation and then I'll reconsider. Otherwise I can think of them as nothing other than toys, really expensive toys at that too.

 

[GoldenTiger]

MACS R SUXOR! .

 

[Plantanthera]

Come from a graphics angle.

7 years ago, my ex-college switch all toaster to PCs, Mac stay the same for Adobe, and SGI stayed as SGI.

Now the school run mostly PC for animation, some graphics design while Mac with Adobe is shrinking. From no PC to over 200 PCs for Animation labs, sound editing, video editing, photo editing, and light-duty 3D work. SGI workstations are till use for heavy animation and 3D editing. From almost 150 Macs shrank to less than 30 so the design student know how to use the Mac when enter the work force, because many employers can't afford to switch flatform due to the high cost of licensing.

The reason of using PC over Mac is that it is superior. (larger software pool and is cheaper)

 

[guste]

Guys, why don't you try making rational points instead of just saying macs suck and the PC r0x0rs. Doesn't matter if you're joking or serious, it's just lame.

Personally, I don't buy macs because they're too limiting for what I do. If I was into graphic design and such, then I could see myself getting one, but other than that, they offer no benefit to the typical user. Poor upgradability compared to PCs, poor software selection and poor pricing on systems and after market hardware don't help the typical mac user's arguement.

 

[BDawg]

There's no point in me trying to defend macs against people who refuse to listen to argument...but I have to make 3 corrections.

A: Tektronik printers are not really top end publishing devices. Besides, looking okay and being correct are different things. If you're talking high res, we have scanners and printers that cost more than nice houses.

B: The laserwriter driver is an interface for all postscript printers. You just use it and select the PPD for the printer. Education on the matter will get you everywhere.

C: I bought my first Mac long after Jobs was gone. I haven't bought one since he's been there. I guess that shows he really hasn't convinced me of anything.

 

[buck]

I had a service call for a POS Mac yesterday and the damn thing took me 3 hours. :| Piss on Macs.

 

[GoldenTiger]

bump

 

[KameLeon]

I'm not saying Macs are better or worse. But that stuff you mentioned, Hiero, is some FREAKY SH!T!!
I can't believe these losers are so attached to a machine!