Mad Cow in washington

[ReiAyanami]

yes and like 50 peopel died

"THE HUMAN LINK
?Mad cow disease was first reported in the United Kingdom in 1986, peaking in 1993 with almost 1,000 new cases per week.
?In 1996, variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD) was detected in humans and linked to the mad cow epidemic. Eating contaminated meat and cattle products is presumed to be the cause.
?Both are fatal brain diseases with unusually long incubation periods, often lasting years.
Source: CDC "

getting it does not guarantee death, but it'd probably cause brain damage and take years to do so. think of it as a slow SARs, if tens of thousands get it and a few hundred die, its still significant.

 

[ReiAyanami]

the CNN version: http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/23/mad.cow/index.html

It was a so-called "downer" animal, meaning it was unable to walk when it reached the slaughterhouse, which under USDA rules triggers automatic testing.

awesome that they SHIP OUT meat from sick animals BEFORE testing it... real smart. its like eating diseased monkeys

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: Centinall
The News is saying that they only tested this cow because it was falling over... That's not a good way to test your food supply.

If it's a good enough test for my dates it's good enough for my vittles. Another Vodka & Cranberry, baby?

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: Centinall
The News is saying that they only tested this cow because it was falling over... That's not a good way to test your food supply.

If it's a good enough test for my dates it's good enough for my vittles. Another Vodka & Cranberry, baby?

lmao

 

[ReiAyanami]

doesn't mad cow disease spread from when they feed cows the brains of other cows? i thought they stopped grinding up leftover cow parts and feeding them back to them years ago like they did with chickens but who knows. pass the savings along to the consumer...

reminds me of the scene where cartman feeds a calf some veal

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
doesn't mad cow disease spread from when they feed cows the brains of other cows? i thought they stopped grinding up leftover cow parts and feeding them back to them years ago like they did with chickens but who knows. pass the savings along to the consumer...

reminds me of the scene where cartman feeds a calf some veal

Or where he fed Scott Tenorman his parents.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: TheAudit
Damn double post.

On a serious note, Mad Cow disease is not a good thing but, according to that article, it's isolated to one cow. Hopefully it will stay that way.

You (the USA) may be in for some pain in the beef industry. We (Canada) had 1 cow with it this summer and the beef industry has been huurting ever since.

I wonder what the international reacation will be.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[iwearnosox]

I sense a big sale at omaha steaks coming up. W00t!

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
doesn't mad cow disease spread from when they feed cows the brains of other cows? i thought they stopped grinding up leftover cow parts and feeding them back to them years ago like they did with chickens but who knows. pass the savings along to the consumer...

reminds me of the scene where cartman feeds a calf some veal

That's what the British concluded, sort of. I think the feeding of cow to cow was more of a cause of the spread of Mad Cow in Britain and not the root cause of it.

However, there is the odd chance for it to just develop, and another theory is that it is a crossover from a common similar disease seen in Wild Deer and other wild animals.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Everybody relax,

A member of the Bush bureaucracy has assured us that the food supply is safe.

 

[ReiAyanami]

ironically, because this was the most profitable year for the cattle industry and cattle had been at record prices, mcdonalds might end up making more profit with a huge drop in cattle prices as foreign markets shut out american beef



~my theory is the first mad cow disease came about when paris hilton stuck her hand up that cow's alterior orfice~


but ol' bushy and his tejas rancher buddies will probably conjure up a scheme to "save the industry" thru massive subsidies... [that will last years and decades long after the whole scare is over]

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
the CNN version: http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/23/mad.cow/index.html

It was a so-called "downer" animal, meaning it was unable to walk when it reached the slaughterhouse, which under USDA rules triggers automatic testing.

awesome that they SHIP OUT meat from sick animals BEFORE testing it... real smart. its like eating diseased monkeys

The article also had a good piece in there about transmission:

"One important thing to remember is that muscle cuts of meat have almost no risk," Veneman said, emphasizing that the disease is typically spread by consumption of brain or nerve tissue, which did not enter the food system. "I know of no science to show that you can transmit BSE from muscle cuts of meat."

So it looks like you can't catch it from good, normal cuts.

 

[desy]

Don't worry up here after ours in the spring the US shut down its border to Canadian beef 'the reason your producers had a record year'
The beef industry did take a big hit as we export bout 50% of our cattle to the States.
Yours is a much more domestic market so if Americans respond the way Canda did which was a domestic increase of beef consumption of 70%
your industry will be fine. If you respond the way Europe and Japan did with a consumer market decrease of %70 then you got troubles.
Eat your beef!
BSE can occur naturallly in older cattle in about 1 in 13 mil. It can also happen by feeding animal protein to cattle
It not something we have done in NA since 97. So this was prolly just one sickly old cow just like the one we had.
Most slaughter cattle are under 2 years so chances are VERY slim.

 

[Antisocial Virge]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
the CNN version: http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/23/mad.cow/index.html

It was a so-called "downer" animal, meaning it was unable to walk when it reached the slaughterhouse, which under USDA rules triggers automatic testing.

awesome that they SHIP OUT meat from sick animals BEFORE testing it... real smart. its like eating diseased monkeys

The article also had a good piece in there about transmission:

"One important thing to remember is that muscle cuts of meat have almost no risk," Veneman said, emphasizing that the disease is typically spread by consumption of brain or nerve tissue, which did not enter the food system. "I know of no science to show that you can transmit BSE from muscle cuts of meat."

So it looks like you can't catch it from good, normal cuts.

Hamburger has a percentage of nerve and spinal cord tissue in it. Basically anything that is mechanically de-boned
usually ends up with some nerve tissue in it.

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Everybody relax,

A member of the Bush bureaucracy has assured us that the food supply is safe.

Oh hell I feel safe now NOT, never believe Bush and his bandwagon of liars

 

[StageLeft]

Good. The US has been spazing over Canadian madcow concerns, and now they will hopefully have some reality put back into the mix. Or, maybe people will eat less beef. that means less burgers, which will eventually mean perhaps not so many fat people getting fatter?

Next time I eat a burger, be it tomorrow or in a month, I will not put consideration towards mad cow disease in the least. Looking at foxnews or cnn you'd think that every cow on the planet just took up arms and wants a turn running the world

 

[Miramonti]

I'm lovin' it!

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Good. The US has been spazing over Canadian madcow concerns, and now they will hopefully have some reality put back into the mix. Or, maybe people will eat less beef. that means less burgers, which will eventually mean perhaps not so many fat people getting fatter?

Next time I eat a burger, be it tomorrow or in a month, I will not put consideration towards mad cow disease in the least. Looking at foxnews or cnn you'd think that every cow on the planet just took up arms and wants a turn running the world

Time for canada to exact a little revenge and prohibit importing of US beef.

 

[Atrail]

If you really wanted to play it safe. Don't eat ground beef or grind up your own. The machines that they use to rip this meat off the bone often hit bone which they are not suppossed to, but ya know sh!t happens. The bone in the spine is what you would be worried about (and brain but there are no cuts of meat that involve the head). All other cuts of meat should be fine.

 

[m2kewl]

Originally posted by: tyler811

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Everybody relax,

A member of the Bush bureaucracy has assured us that the food supply is safe.

Oh hell I feel safe now NOT, never believe Bush and his bandwagon of liars

this is halliburton's doing...they're getting revenge for us finding out their attempts to rape the public in iraq!

/panic mode: no beef for me!! lol

 

[DrPizza]

2 years ago wasn't mad cow disease in Europe... it was hoof and mouth disease, a disease that spreads and kills much more quickly...

Also, the incubation period for mad cow disease is 7 to 8 years...
The majority of cattle are slaughtered well before that... Thus, the odds of seeing symptomatic cattle in the U.S. is relatively low.

The last time I checked (a couple of years ago), the United States tested as many cattle in a year as Europe tests in a week. I don't know if the tests are independently performed or not. If not, then I have serious doubts as to whether anyone would be very forthright, considering the economic ramifications. According to the article, 20,526 cattle were tested last year... Out of how many?

The cattle lobby is very strong in some states... Last year (or was it the year before), they forced an entire herd of sheep in Vermont to be destroyed due to a risk of "mad cow disease". Nonetheless, that breed of sheep had never been known anywhere to even be a carrier for any variants of the disease. But, that breed of sheep was well known as a milk producer and posed a slight risk to the dairy industry as an alternate source of milk. Just ONE cow ever found in Canada with mad cow disease and all imports of beef from Canada are stopped - does that sound like reasonable risk assessment to anyone? Or over-reaction that benefits only the beef industry?

And, lastly for your consideration, the hamburger you're eating at many of the fast food chains (at least McD's) did not come from just one cow... In order to keep as consistent of a product as possible (ever notice any variation in taste between burgers?) the meat of numerous cattle is mixed together, and flavorings added to keep the taste the same. Thus, by eating one of those burgers, you have a far higher chance of getting something that was contaminated. Or, look at it this way... when there's a salmonella problem, etc., ever notice that the impact is far more than what would be produced by one or two or ten cows?

Just some food for thought... I still eat McD's burgers from time to time, but would rather eat stuff from the local butcher shop.

 

[OIKOS]

MAD COW IN WASHINGTON?? I THINK THERE IS A MAD COW RIGHT HERE IN ATOT! :|

 

[bleeb]

Mad Cow Disease is a serious problem. Since the incubation period is long time, it's difficult to determine which cows are infected and which are not. Additionaly, the incubation periond in humans is very long as well, therefore its difficult to determine when you were infected and where the meat came from.

Don't believe everything the government hand feeds you guys. They have ties in with the beef industry, government and politics. If this wasn't such a big deal WHY in the hell did they keep the fact that it was found in beef around December 9? And why has the story only been released now? WHY in the world would some of the European Countries destroy THOUSANDS of heads of cattle if this weren't a big problem? (Reference to both MCD and foot and mouth disease)

What we need to do is put some regulation into what the cows here eat. Stop feeding them blood and fats which come from other cows and we can eliminate the problem.

 

[stormbv]

Originally posted by: bleeb
Mad Cow Disease is a serious problem. Since the incubation period is long time, it's difficult to determine which cows are infected and which are not. Additionaly, the incubation periond in humans is very long as well, therefore its difficult to determine when you were infected and where the meat came from.

Don't believe everything the government hand feeds you guys. They have ties in with the beef industry, government and politics. If this wasn't such a big deal WHY in the hell did they keep the fact that it was found in beef around December 9? And why has the story only been released now? WHY in the world would some of the European Countries destroy THOUSANDS of heads of cattle if this weren't a big problem? (Reference to both MCD and foot and mouth disease)

What we need to do is put some regulation into what the cows here eat. Stop feeding them blood and fats which come from other cows and we can eliminate the problem.

*zombie* profits...must increase profits..

 

[kindest]

such depressing news at the worst possible time.

this is why i hate watching the news. Yesterday it was every woman is a potential terrorist bomber now today
its every cow in the usa has mad cow.