Maddow just tweeted she has Trumps tax returns

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Younigue

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Really? You "won"? Need to ask agent fail troll how to lie better than that.

Let the FACTS speak for themselves from the last exchange:

Me = posted your pathetic dare and lying accusation - http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ds-of-up-to-200.2500758/page-10#post-38785536

You = unable to answer being called out in public on your pathetic dare and lying accusation so more pathetic rantings and trolling = http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ds-of-up-to-200.2500758/page-10#post-38785753

Me = tired of your trolling so I said until you give me something to go on, I am done with you on that thread and unlike you, I kept my words instead of weaseled back into the thread again like you did multiple times before - http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ds-of-up-to-200.2500758/page-10#post-38785761

Facts are facts, in black and white. Just like your post above, you are still unable to answer honestly but more ranting and ranting.

You "won", uh huh. Just like how you thought I was giving you a compliment as "special snowflake".

Now go run along and tell everyone that I am calling you "short bus special". That is a YUGE compliment.

Must. Stop. Laughing. So. Hard.

Until you give me something decent instead of more trolls and lies, I am done with you and agent fail troll in this thread. Keep telling yourselves how smart you are and the readers can click on my links and read your own words and decide for themselves.

I didn't even bother to finish reading your post this time.

PUBLIC: I won! Claimed it, must be true.
My proof and evidence is that I wrote an article based on my knowledge of you and my own infinite fantastic knowledge that far surpasses your wee little intellect. Now, don't you wish you required more than a thimble to harness your brain power? I've got the Universe backing me because I'm open to it. Open mind, open heart and definitely very funny... And (recently) the funniest thing in my arsenal, reminding you how much smarter I am than you.

PUBLIC: I'm smarter than Svnla. I don't even break a sweat in the truth of it.

Lol, I'm not telling myself I'm smarter than you, I already know. I'm telling you and you believe me (because it's true but also because of your insecurities). Stomp off now little guy. Please tell me you slammed a door or something, I meeean, make that anger manifest my simple-minded impotent frienemy.

Miss me!
I'm sure I'll soon get the opportunity to call you out on another post where you compare your smarts to Liberals smarts. In case you missed it, I wrote an article. The facts are in, we're smarter than you.
 

Younigue

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Facts in black and white. Look here who is the dumb ass (this is just one of many examples) = http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/high-chance-of-china-taiwan-war.2499383/#post-38743019

Facts are facts. You and the lying newbie are just like the gifts that keep on giving.

Reply with facts from this forum or STFU.

The gift that keeps on giving? Awe... Now what did I tell you about Public Displays of Affection. Pull it back little fella it's feeling a little intrusive.

Not that you want to be associated with me agent but high five for whatever reason would best annoy svnla.
 

Ackmed

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I don't think you have a strong grasp of what actually happened here. The documents appear to be legitimate, the White House has in effect confirmed their authenticity, and when presenting them Maddow explicitly said they might have come from Trump himself to make him look better.

How exactly do you think she lost credibility here? This is very confusing.

I do understand what went on. I suppose you believe that she didn't think she had new, previously undisclosed tax documents originally? C'mon now, be the poster that you used to be. It's obvious some of the first posters did too. She would not have hyped up the event, knowing it was old news, that actually made Trump look good. Someone, or several someone's didn't check it well enough, or relay the information to her quick enough. Her second Tweet shows she learned it was older, after her original Tweet when it was too late to back track. Even if she knew what she had (she didn't) , she trolled everyone and revealed nothing new. Credibility lost. It's really embarrassing for her, not being able to admit that is just sad. Talk about Trump supporters doubling down.

Edit, wow it's funny how the new alt left trolling posters are so similar. And so new. Yet it's them who cry out and new right posters? Hmmm. More posts to skip over.
 
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Ajay

Lifer
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Two pages of tax returns - utterly useless for anything but propaganda. No sources of income or loss reported individually. The Trump admin continues to plant false flags and the media attacks them like a pack of wild dogs. While the media looks away, Trump just hides the ball under a different cup.

Did the press miss Steve Bannon's comment on deconstructing the administrative state? Did they forget about the false flag operation carried out with the help of the Russians, or perhaps worse, by director of the FBI??

How about we keep it simple for the press - just stay on the story about how the republicans are destroying the idea of affordable healthcare. Because, ya know, bankruptcy isn't so bad, just ask Don Trump.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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I suspect that information wouldn't be in his tax returns anyway. Why run it through your own taxes when you can add a layer of complexity and scapegoats by running it through a few trusts? That has extra appeal as none of the presidential candidates for the past few (several?) elections have disclosed trust tax returns

I don't know what is or isn't in those tax returns. I do, however, strongly suspect that there is something incriminating in them, because Trump has resisted releasing them on dishonest grounds. And this stunt he just pulled to leak a cherry picked partial return seems like an attempt to blunt further inquiry into getting the rest of them. I am now even more convinced that there is something scandalous hiding in there.
 

feralkid

Lifer
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Edit, wow it's funny how the new alt left trolling posters are so similar. And so new. Yet it's them who cry out and new right posters? Hmmm. More posts to skip over.



There is no "alt" left, you poor dope.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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I do understand what went on. I suppose you believe that she didn't think she had new, previously undisclosed tax documents originally? C'mon now, be the poster that you used to be. It's obvious some of the first posters did too. She would not have hyped up the event, knowing it was old news, that actually made Trump look good. Someone, or several someone's didn't check it well enough, or relay the information to her quick enough. Her second Tweet shows she learned it was older, after her original Tweet when it was too late to back track. Even if she knew what she had (she didn't) , she trolled everyone and revealed nothing new. Credibility lost. It's really embarrassing for her, not being able to admit that is just sad. Talk about Trump supporters doubling down.

Edit, wow it's funny how the new alt left trolling posters are so similar. And so new. Yet it's them who cry out and new right posters? Hmmm. More posts to skip over.

I don't think it's a "credibility" problem in the sense of honesty. I do think she displayed extraordinarily poor judgment here at best. Shouldn't have hyped it without knowing what it was. She has been attacked by members of the press over it, justifiably so.
 

desura

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I'm actually a habitual listener of the Maddow show on MSNBC.

I've been getting jaded lately though of her. Honestly, she felt about the same as Jon Stewart most of the time which goes to show how political and non-comedic Stewart got.

Skipping every 3 minutes of her show and you can get what she's going to say anyways in like 30 seconds.
 

agent00f

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Facts in black and white. Look here who is the dumb ass (this is just one of many examples) = http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/high-chance-of-china-taiwan-war.2499383/#post-38743019

Facts are facts. You and the lying newbie are just like the gifts that keep on giving.

Reply with facts from this forum or STFU.

Let's not pretend you've ever understood anything in life. That's why dumbest most worthless trash is always conservative:

Oh, the big mouth newbie is back. Are you going to do another dare like you did last time, "special" short bus sweetie? Talk about being bitch slap in the face by me to you, in public, yet you are still unable to reply with facts. So pathetic and laughable. LOL.

Still nothing about your statement that I "worship" you? Of course, not. Nothing. Just like you. Shall I go on and list more of your stupid stunts?

Now that is solid evidence of shame and humiliation from me to you. Undisputable truth about you and agent fail troll.

Talk is cheap. Reply with facts from this forum or STFU and stop trolling the topic of this thread into something else.

It's what conservatism is all about.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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I do understand what went on. I suppose you believe that she didn't think she had new, previously undisclosed tax documents originally? C'mon now, be the poster that you used to be. It's obvious some of the first posters did too. She would not have hyped up the event, knowing it was old news, that actually made Trump look good. Someone, or several someone's didn't check it well enough, or relay the information to her quick enough. Her second Tweet shows she learned it was older, after her original Tweet when it was too late to back track. Even if she knew what she had (she didn't) , she trolled everyone and revealed nothing new. Credibility lost. It's really embarrassing for her, not being able to admit that is just sad. Talk about Trump supporters doubling down.

Edit, wow it's funny how the new alt left trolling posters are so similar. And so new. Yet it's them who cry out and new right posters? Hmmm. More posts to skip over.

How well would you say the Svnla types represent the ideology?
 

justoh

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Why won't maddow release the rest of Trump's tax returns? What is she hiding?
 

jmagg

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Soon, a 9 hour countdown to BREAKING NEWS will be announced. We got him (sources say).
 

Thebobo

Lifer
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Oh please give us a break. When have valid credentials stopped you from attacking anyone else that doesn't fit your socialist agenda or ideology?

Never been called a socialist let alone have a socialist agenda. I just want clean air to breath, clean water to drink and fish, reasonably priced healthcare for all, public education for all and leave the public lands alone, they are all of ours. Oh and make the weed legal. If that makes me a socialist then so be it.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
Oct 9, 2002
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This reminds me of the hapless lawyer who compelled OJ Simpson to try and put on his moisture shrunken gloves while in court and the famous jingle that sprung from it.
Also I heard he deliberately discontinued a prescription medication because they knew it would cause hands to swell.
 

Exterous

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I don't know what is or isn't in those tax returns. I do, however, strongly suspect that there is something incriminating in them, because Trump has resisted releasing them on dishonest grounds. And this stunt he just pulled to leak a cherry picked partial return seems like an attempt to blunt further inquiry into getting the rest of them. I am now even more convinced that there is something scandalous hiding in there.

There have been no recent presidents that have released all of their tax returns. They all cherry picked the releases to show the public what they wanted to show - they just happened to be prepared for a career in politics so they structured their tax lives behind more walls. Trump is drawing the same line in the sand just at a different location because his tax laundry doesn't appear to be hidden behind other entities. And I would be shocked if there wasn't something scandalous in his taxes - but not necessarily scandalous as "Hey here is a check for $4M from Putin" but more along the lines of unflattering tax schemes. He's got enough money to hire the right tax advisers so I doubt its illegal but he's got enough problems without people finding out he was using unflattering tax avoidance strategies like carried interest via his role as a real estate investor. But there are precedents for that too. Previous presidents\candidates never released tax returns showing how broadly they were going to avoid their own 'tax reform' because their plan didn't close the 'loopholes' they obviously knew about (since they were actively using them)
 

brycejones

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Never been called a socialist let alone have a socialist agenda. I just want clean air to breath, clean water to drink and fish, reasonably priced healthcare for all, public education for all and leave the public lands alone, they are all of ours. Oh and make the weed legal. If that makes me a socialist then so be it.

Dude that makes you a raging Marxist who wants to corrupt the masses with your hippie weed.
 

momeNt

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You've obviously never filed a corporate return. Technically, if you're scamming the gov't out of taxes the easiest way to do it would be to claim a ton of deductions that aren't really related to your business. Like deducting the full cost of a vacation to Vegas instead of just the one meal that was actually business-related. If you do that enough you can drastically reduce your income and even take a loss, yes. But it's not a real loss the way most wage-earning Joe Schmoe's experience it, where they actually lose money through simple subtraction. Deductions can be gamed and routinely are, though how severely depends on the person, and based on Trump's history he ain't likely to be clean.

What are you saying. Are you strawmanning Trump's massive real estate losses as business related vacation expenses? Do you take me for a fool good sir?
 

momeNt

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I'm not saying what he paid was right or wrong, I'm pointing out that Zerohedge cherry picking one year in 2005 where he paid 25% as an indication that he's paying a greater proportion of his income in taxes than Bernie Sanders ignores the fact that he likely spent many years paying nothing.

Then again let's not pretend Zerohedge knows how to use scaaary numbers.



You mean 'inherit', right?

Zerohedge used to provide some useful insight back in 2008 when it was mostly disgruntled finance people. Now the contributors range far and wide and it is all mostly garbage. I haven't regularly visited their site in about 7-8 years. Last time I visited their site was something about unemployment I posted here but I found that thru google.

Yea inherit his smarts, really the best smarts, in order to make all that money, in order to lose it, in order to pay no taxes.
 
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Jhhnn

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There have been no recent presidents that have released all of their tax returns. They all cherry picked the releases to show the public what they wanted to show - they just happened to be prepared for a career in politics so they structured their tax lives behind more walls. Trump is drawing the same line in the sand just at a different location because his tax laundry doesn't appear to be hidden behind other entities. And I would be shocked if there wasn't something scandalous in his taxes - but not necessarily scandalous as "Hey here is a check for $4M from Putin" but more along the lines of unflattering tax schemes. He's got enough money to hire the right tax advisers so I doubt its illegal but he's got enough problems without people finding out he was using unflattering tax avoidance strategies like carried interest via his role as a real estate investor. But there are precedents for that too. Previous presidents\candidates never released tax returns showing how broadly they were going to avoid their own 'tax reform' because their plan didn't close the 'loopholes' they obviously knew about (since they were actively using them)

Bullshit.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/page/tax-returns/
 

Puffnstuff

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Hasn't anyone figured out that Donald loves attention? This guy loves to be the center of attention and all of the recent drama does exactly that.
 

HomerJS

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I don't get the collective outrage. While I stated earlier this was a fuckup on her part over hyping where not warranted, it's the regular m.o. of Fox News. Yet it seems to be accepted. Remember the flag pin, no hand over heart, $2 million/day for travel to India?

My criticism is across the board regardless of who does it.
 

justoh

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Maddow shouldn't be compared to anyone on fox, unless Beck is still around. She's more like the left's version of Alex Jones.
 
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