Maddow just tweeted she has Trumps tax returns

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Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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Maddow shouldn't be compared to anyone on fox, unless Beck is still around. She's more like the left's version of Alex Jones.

Wow you are clearly delusional. Jone's is nothing but a caricature, a pathetic waste of O2.
 

Exterous

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I expect you are reacting just like they hoped you would and your link certainly doesn't disprove my point. Your link doesn't include the tax returns for any of their three trusts. (Which is separate from their foundations) Btw - the trusts they created by-passed not only the current estate tax laws but also the estate tax increase she proposed. I'm sure it was just a coincidence that her tax plan calling for increased estate taxes didn't touch the tax avoidance schemes she had in place so it was all just a happy accident that her estate wouldn't pay anything extra if her plan was passed. Right? I mean paying more is for other people. I suspect they (and previous presidents) decided to not release the taxes from their trusts because those might be a bit scandalous as it reveals hypocrisy and how the laws they create and support allow them to bypass taxes. Getting only a single tax return of wealthy person for a given year doesn't show as much as you think it does
 
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Ichinisan

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Never been called a socialist let alone have a socialist agenda. I just want clean air to breath, clean water to drink and fish, reasonably priced healthcare for all, public education for all and leave the public lands alone, they are all of ours. Oh and make the weed legal. If that makes me a socialist then so be it.
Well, some of those things aren't really any of the government's business in a "free" society.
 

fskimospy

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The tax laws are the tax laws. Is that somehow a problem for you?

Of course not. What gave you such a silly idea other than clearly not reading my post well or the remainder of the thread?

Here's a hint, that post has nothing to do with what tax rate is right or not, it has to do with Zerohedge's hypocrisy and stupidity.
 
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The tax laws are the tax laws. Is that somehow a problem for you?
Is spin-boy still trying to spin this one into a plus for Democrats? If someone could figure out how to harness his spin ability to produce something usable we could power the world. Too bad he only uses his spin powers for evil.
 
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Of course not. What gave you such a silly idea other than clearly not reading my post well or the remainder of the thread?

Here's a hint, that post has nothing to do with what tax rate is right or not, it has to do with Zerohedge's hypocrisy and stupidity.
The 0% was bolded in your post ffs. Who me? lol
 

fskimospy

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The 0% was bolded in your post ffs. Who me? lol

Yes, exactly! It was the most important part of the post so of course I bolded it.

It was bolded to show that Zerohedge highlighted Trump's 2005 tax rate of 25% as compared to Bernie Sanders' because he paid a higher percentage and completely ignored the fact that for many more years during the mid 90's Trump likely paid 0%. This is because the person that tweeted that for Zerohedge is either a dishonest hypocrite or a moron, which was the whole point of my post. How is this even the slightest bit confusing?

You would have known this had you bothered to read the thread. Instead, you said something dumb. Why not just admit you made a mistake and move on? (pride)
 

OutHouse

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Translation- You believe the forms are genuine when there is no real evidence to that effect. Which means that if TrumpCo is running this as a scam that it's working beautifully.

It has that special eau de bullshit all over it.

no real evidence that the forms are real? man you say some stupid shit but that is up there.

its hilarious how you clowns try to spin this as some sort of off the wall conspiracy theory when you fire a shot a trump hoping to destroy him but the bazooka blows up in your face. HAHAHHAHA


fail.
 
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Yes, exactly! It was the most important part of the post so of course I bolded it.

It was bolded to show that Zerohedge highlighted Trump's 2005 tax rate of 25% as compared to Bernie Sanders' because he paid a higher percentage and completely ignored the fact that for many more years during the mid 90's Trump likely paid 0%. This is because the person that tweeted that for Zerohedge is either a dishonest hypocrite or a moron, which was the whole point of my post. How is this even the slightest bit confusing?

You would have known this had you bothered to read the thread. Instead, you said something dumb. Why not just admit you made a mistake and move on? (pride)
The 0% is completely irrelevant assuming Trump fully complied with the tax laws at that time. Using loss carryforward to reduce tax liability in future years is a legal and common practice for businesses that suffer severe losses. Using tax liability percentages during profitable years (that are unaffected by prior losses) is a much more honest apples-to-apples comparison. What you're advocating here is actually HIGHLY DISHONEST by making apples-to-oranges tax liability comparisons when loss carryforward is involved.
 

ivwshane

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The 0% is completely irrelevant assuming Trump fully complied with the tax laws at that time. Using loss carryforward to reduce tax liability in future years is a legal and common practice for businesses that suffer severe losses. Using tax liability percentages during profitable years (that are unaffected by prior losses) is a much more honest apples-to-apples comparison. What you're advocating here is actually HIGHLY DISHONEST by making apples-to-oranges tax liability comparisons when loss carryforward is involved.

Hence the reason he put TBD, you insufferable ass.
 
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fskimospy

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The 0% is completely irrelevant assuming Trump fully complied with the tax laws at that time. Using loss carryforward to reduce tax liability in future years is a legal and common practice for businesses that suffer severe losses. Using tax liability percentages during profitable years (that are unaffected by prior losses) is a much more honest apples-to-apples comparison. What you're advocating here is actually HIGHLY DISHONEST by making apples-to-oranges tax liability comparisons when loss carryforward is involved.

Seriously, how stupid are you?

First, you have no idea as to what is an accurate representation of the tax rate Trump generally pays because he won't release his tax returns. He could have paid nothing for the entire decade between 1995 and 2005 and only started paying taxes again that year. Talk about dishonesty, right?

Second, I wasn't trying to compare anyone's tax rates, I was pointing out Zerohedge's ineptitude and hypocrisy. The idea that you're trying to say someone was being dishonest about a point they weren't even trying to make is yet another case of you shitting your pants in the funniest way possible.

Finally and most importantly, the 0% is not just relevant it is in fact the entire point. It shows Zerohedge ignoring inconvenient facts to try and paint a narrative, which was the entire point of my post.

Seriously guy once again you're just making a small mistake you made so much worse by doubling and tripling down instead of just admitting error. As usual, it took about two posts for the insults, the claims of lies, etc to start flying from you. You seriously need to learn how to handle criticism like an adult.
 
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Svnla

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<snip>
Edit, wow it's funny how the new alt left trolling posters are so similar. And so new. Yet it's them who cry out and new right posters? Hmmm. More posts to skip over.

So similar, you don't think? And you are not alone.

See how they are newbies, love to boast about themselves or how smart they are, make unfounded accusations with nothing to back up and of course, mudslinging and lies...last but not least...trolling.

Watch out how they will reply with more nonsense rantings and more bullcraps but nothing to dispute what I posted above.

Get ready world. Get your boots on and be ready.
 
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Jhhnn

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I expect you are reacting just like they hoped you would and your link certainly doesn't disprove my point. Your link doesn't include the tax returns for any of their three trusts. (Which is separate from their foundations) Btw - the trusts they created by-passed not only the current estate tax laws but also the estate tax increase she proposed. I'm sure it was just a coincidence that her tax plan calling for increased estate taxes didn't touch the tax avoidance schemes she had in place so it was all just a happy accident that her estate wouldn't pay anything extra if her plan was passed. Right? I mean paying more is for other people. I suspect they (and previous presidents) decided to not release the taxes from their trusts because those might be a bit scandalous as it reveals hypocrisy and how the laws they create and support allow them to bypass taxes. Getting only a single tax return of wealthy person for a given year doesn't show as much as you think it does

More post-truth bullshit with scurrilous accusations, not to mention it being completely diversional & off topic. Tax law is such that the govt can't change things after the fact, anyway. If a trust or anything else was legal at the time it won't be disallowed later.
 

Younigue

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So similar, you don't think? And you are not alone.

See how they are newbies, love to boast about themselves or how smart they are, make unfounded accusations with nothing to back up and of course, mudslinging and lies...last but not least...trolling.

Watch out how they will reply with more nonsense rantings and more bullcraps. Get ready world. Get your boots on.
Svn I just find your flavour of ignorance irresistible. I'll leave the other fella alone...

As we know my memory is shite but I'm pretty sure you and I don't debate policy or party. We talk about how very limited you are in your human experience. That you are full of anger, pettiness and ugliness as well as simple small thoughts. That you throw tantrums at people who are smarter than you and opts to flaunt it. That you say nothing of value or importance. That your world is so small that you consider this forum "the public". That even when you're not addressing me directly you don't seem to be able to stop thinking about me... I'm gonna name call you in 3...2...1... Worshipper! Though I can't express how much I hate that that yucky mind of yours worships me & the Kumquat-in-Chief. Ewwww!

Look at that you predicted the future. You should start a cult. Call it the WishWeWereSmarterThanSomeone <---- wordy but apropos.

P.S. I'm smarter than you sad little guy. This time throw yourself on the ground and kick and scream.

Miss me!
 

agent00f

Lifer
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So similar, you don't think? And you are not alone.

See how they are newbies, love to boast about themselves or how smart they are, make unfounded accusations with nothing to back up and of course, mudslinging and lies...last but not least...trolling.

Watch out how they will reply with more nonsense rantings and more bullcraps but nothing to dispute what I posted above.

Get ready world. Get your boots on and be ready.

What value would you say conservatism brings to the country. I suppose it's a question open to all conservatives, but probably by far the most comical in svnla types words.
 

blankslate

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Good Job Maddow you just distracted a large swath of people from the CBO report on Trumpcare or conservative-care with people laughing at your big-deal exclusive that Trump paid 25% of his 2005 income in taxes... btw more as a percentage than Romney paid.

You got played.

Not only that you just gave Geraldo's Capone vault moment a run for its money...

I mean he didn't know if anything was there.... while you had enough time to read those two pages and think

"hmmm maybe we shouldn't make such a giant fucking deal over this...."

Now when someone hypothetically gets incriminating tax papers from Trump there will be the "Boy who cried Wolf" argument that Maddow inadvertently gave hardcore Trump supporters.


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*edited for better word choice (swath not swatch)
 
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justoh

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Good Job Maddow you just distracted a large swatch of people from the CBO report on Trumpcare or conservative-care with people laughing at your big-deal exclusive that Trump paid 25% of his 2005 income in taxes... btw more as a percentage than Romney paid.


I mean he didn't know if anything was there.... while you had enough time to read those two pages and think

"hmmm maybe we shouldn't make such a giant fucking deal over this...."
Rachel Jones knew it was nothing and still tried to maximize suspense, first with the early pre-show announcement, and then artificially delaying the information. That seems dishonest. She must have some control over her own show and isn't obliged to whore to advertisers/ratings to such a degree. She also then conflated dishonest with fake, quoting the white house response where they referenced the media this time as being "dishonest," and then sarcastically pinching herself, "i'm not fake. pinch me. i'm real." So she starts off dishonest, is called dishonest, and then adds more dishonesty.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Rachel Jones knew it was nothing and still tried to maximize suspense, first with the early pre-show announcement, and then artificially delaying the information. That seems dishonest. She must have some control over her own show and isn't obliged to whore to advertisers/ratings to such a degree. She also then conflated dishonest with fake, quoting the white house response where they referenced the media this time as being "dishonest," and then sarcastically pinching herself, "i'm not fake. pinch me. i'm real." So she starts off dishonest, is called dishonest, and then adds more dishonesty.

I don't think you know what the word "dishonest" means, you certainly haven't demonstrated the point.
 
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