The hypothetical $900,000 in his money. I don't see him being indebted to Russian banks.
A trump deal? Different matter. He' supposed to have partners etc. I don't think we know how much of such deals he personally owns.
Fern
According to Bloomberg he currently owes $300 million to Deutsche Bank alone and in 2005 when you are saying you don't think he would be borrowing money the Trump Organization took out a $640 million loan from Deutsche Bank.
As regards the source of the tax return:
1. The marking "Client Copy" may be meaningful, although even if accurate it tells us very very little about the source of this leak. I'll explain that below. But any tax professional/IRS personnel realizes the stamp etc down there if left original could indict them. Whether IRS or preparer firm, you're gonna stamp it "Client Copy" if you don't want the trail leading back to you.
2. IRS as source. I think it highly unlikely if only because I don't believe the IRS is going to keep a hard copy of a tax return for so long. The IRS receives millions of tax return every year. Record retention/storage space has been a big problems for them for decades. Hang on to the hard copy of tax return whose statute of limitations expired approx 10 yrs ago? I don't see it.
3. Tax preparer as source. I'm disappointed the preparing firm's name is redacted. But I don't see a firm releasing it. Again if only because we also have storage space expense/difficulties. The industry standard for retention is 6 yrs. I can't see a firm keeping a copy beyond that. I think it unlikely.
4. Trump as source. Not much to say other than, welp, another day another conspiracy theory by the Left.
5. Others. Considering all the businesses he's active in, or was active in, I'd guess about a gazillion copies of Trump's tax return have been sent to bankers etc. I.e., a metric shit ton of banks, firm's and people have had copies of Trump's tax returns. It could have come from just about anywhere.
That copy seems to have been xeroxed a number of times. That indicates it passed through a number of hands. I don't see it as a copy of Trump's original (client) copy. A copy of that original would be much sharper/clearer.
Unless somebody fesses up I don't see us finding out the source.
Fern
The hypothetical $900,000 in his money. I don't see him being indebted to Russian banks.
A trump deal? Different matter. He' supposed to have partners etc. I don't think we know how much of such deals he personally owns.
Fern
So Rachel Maddow does 15 minutes of preamble, spends 10 seconds revealing the taxes, does ZERO analysis and then brings on a guest.
As regards the source of the tax return:
4. Trump as source. Not much to say other than, welp, another day another conspiracy theory by the Left.
5. Others. Considering all the businesses he's active in, or was active in, I'd guess about a gazillion copies of Trump's tax return have been sent to bankers etc. I.e., a metric shit ton of banks, firm's and people have had copies of Trump's tax returns. It could have come from just about anywhere.
That copy seems to have been xeroxed a number of times. That indicates it passed through a number of hands. I don't see it as a copy of Trump's original (client) copy. A copy of that original would be much sharper/clearer.
Unless somebody fesses up I don't see us finding out the source.
Fern
So the prevailing tin-foil hat conspiracy theory is that Trump may have planted his return? Awesome!
I don't get the conspiracy theory. If Trump intentionally leaked or planted the return, good for him, he punked madcow and a bunch of idiots and got tons of good pub. If he didn't release it and someone else did, good for him, he got good pub, it debunks the narrative of him not paying taxes. What's the conspiracy?
I don't get the conspiracy theory. If Trump intentionally leaked or planted the return, good for him, he punked madcow and a bunch of idiots and got tons of good pub. If he didn't release it and someone else did, good for him, he got good pub, it debunks the narrative of him not paying taxes. What's the conspiracy?
So the prevailing tin-foil hat conspiracy theory is that Trump may have planted his return? Awesome!
So, let me get this straight....you actually think that Trump himself may have personally mailed the reporter his tax return. Wow.Doesn't a conspiracy by definition have to be an act performed by multiple people?
Far be it for me to keep you from deriding "them loonie lefties", but if he leaked them himself, that's not a conspiracy.
No, it's not a conspiracy theory...but yes, it may have happened. This is fn hilarious!
OH! WOW! 2005 tax returns! Ah, how about something from this decade, like 2016? And make that the full Trump corporate tax records, not just what Donald himself skims off the top.Im skeptical since msnbc site isn't promoting it, but stay tuned. Supposedly going town tonight at 9EST.
https://twitter.com/maddow/status/841795163664089089
No, I think you're an idiot. Wow.So, let me get this straight....you actually think that Trump himself may have personally mailed the reporter his tax return. Wow.
so basically the hype failed. all the tax returns show is that Trump is a rich man and paid more taxes to uncle sam than that billionaire socialist sanders and Obama.
giant egg on the face of Maddow. lol
the ironing is delicious
Donald J. Trump explicitly acknowledged for the first time during Sunday’s debate that he used a $916 million loss that he reported on his 1995 income tax returns to avoid paying personal federal income taxes for years.
Mr. Trump’s response — “Of course I do. Of course I do” — was the fullest the wealthy developer had provided since The New York Times reported that he had declared the loss, and that the tax deduction could have been large enough to allow him to avoid federal income taxes for up to 18 years.