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dawp

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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No. At this point, they are all lap dogs.
It's mind boggling to think nobody within his earshot has the ability to say "Dude, that might have not been a good idea"
even if they did say it, it would not have done any good, he listens to no one except those that say yes and grovel at his feet.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Why does the left keep adding words like "white" and "socialists" to the word Nationalist.

When you add sh!t to the word it changes the meaning.

lol what are you talking about? Is this what the right is complaining about?

See, the actual problem here is that when someone calls themselves "a nationalist" the literate adult rightly thinks of Mussolini, not David Duke.

That's the issue.
 
Mar 11, 2004
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I'm not saying that at all. The practice of stochastic terrorism has inherent plausible deniability which Trump would use to the utmost as he continues to preach hatred & violence. All dictators ride into power on chaos of their own creation.

Ok we get it you learned (or are trying to make it part of the common lexicon) "stochastic terrorism", you really don't need to constantly repeat it over and over. We already understood what it was without needing an official term for it, let alone one doesn't actually further the specific understanding of the situation it pertains to. If I'm not mistaken there's some nebulousness with regards to it being valid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Stochastic) but that gets into semantics and other things that I don't give a shit about bringing into discussing the actual pertinent topic/issue.

I was pointing out that they were viewing you saying "there's more/worse on the way" as though you were dismissing this situation not entirely unlike the people trying to go "yeah but they weren't real bombs", which you weren't. I guess I assumed you were saying it'll take that worse situation for things to change but apparently not. I absolutely think Turmp would seize an opportunity to remove the "stocahstic" aspect myself (hence the "you're wrong") were he to actually get to the level you think he's targeting by that method (I think there's zero chance of that, he'll die from age before he can realize that through such means, and there's no payoff for his family as even Turmpers I don't think revere the son or daughter like him, and most other people would see that they've done even less than Turmp for their fame and fortune). Really it just boils down to, their, argument is that the situation is already here, you're saying its gonna get worse. We'll see.

That's not really true, as seen with the multitude of dictators that were born into it (North Korea being the best modern version, but there's plenty of others through history, like many monarchies and no not all of those situations came about through an originating "stochastic terrorism" situation). There's many roads to despots.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Ok we get it you learned (or are trying to make it part of the common lexicon) "stochastic terrorism", you really don't need to constantly repeat it over and over. We already understood what it was without needing an official term for it, let alone one doesn't actually further the specific understanding of the situation it pertains to. If I'm not mistaken there's some nebulousness with regards to it being valid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Stochastic) but that gets into semantics and other things that I don't give a shit about bringing into discussing the actual pertinent topic/issue.

I was pointing out that they were viewing you saying "there's more/worse on the way" as though you were dismissing this situation not entirely unlike the people trying to go "yeah but they weren't real bombs", which you weren't. I guess I assumed you were saying it'll take that worse situation for things to change but apparently not. I absolutely think Turmp would seize an opportunity to remove the "stocahstic" aspect myself (hence the "you're wrong") were he to actually get to the level you think he's targeting by that method (I think there's zero chance of that, he'll die from age before he can realize that through such means, and there's no payoff for his family as even Turmpers I don't think revere the son or daughter like him, and most other people would see that they've done even less than Turmp for their fame and fortune). Really it just boils down to, their, argument is that the situation is already here, you're saying its gonna get worse. We'll see.

That's not really true, as seen with the multitude of dictators that were born into it (North Korea being the best modern version, but there's plenty of others through history, like many monarchies and no not all of those situations came about through an originating "stochastic terrorism" situation). There's many roads to despots.

What I'm saying is that Trump doesn't care if people get killed if his raging rhetoric gets him more votes in aggregate. He knows it encourages such acts & does it anyway.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...ra-program-to-fight-domestic-terrorism-report
The Trump administration is reportedly planning to end a grant program under the Department of Homeland Security that provides grants to organizations that fight domestic terrorism.
NBC News reports that recipients of the Countering Violent Extremism Grant program have been informed that previous grants, which were intended to be part of yearly funding for the organizations, were instead a "one-time" funding grant.
In addition, all references to future funding opportunities or announcements have been scrubbed from the DHS Office of Terrorism Prevention Partnerships's website, NBC reports.
I guess GOP doesn't have a problem with domestic terrorism, as long as it supports them.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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lol what are you talking about? Is this what the right is complaining about?

See, the actual problem here is that when someone calls themselves "a nationalist" the literate adult rightly thinks of Mussolini, not David Duke.

That's the issue.

Then the literate adult would be wrong.
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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"Knowing facts is wrong, because recorded history is wrong. Words no longer have meaning."

Fuck off, idiot. This isn't a matter of opinion.

So just like ivwshane all you have is insults and name calling.... Are you two kin?

Pathetic.

I have posted the definition of Nationalist / Nationalism you obviously aren't as educated as you make yourself out to be.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalism

Definition of nationalism
1 : loyalty and devotion to a nation especially : a sense of national consciousness (see consciousness sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalism

The Difference Between Nationalism, Patriotism, Sectionalism, and Jingoism
Nationalism has a number of near-synonyms, each of which carries its own distinct meaning. Patriotism is similar insofar as it emphasizes strong feelings for one’s country, but it does not necessarily imply an attitude of superiority. Sectionalism resembles nationalism in its suggestion of a geopolitical group pursuing its self-interest, but the group in question is usually smaller than an entire nation. Jingoism closely resembles nationalism in suggesting feelings of cultural superiority, but unlike nationalism, it always implies military aggressiveness.
 
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jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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Update:
From last week, but couldn't find any discussion of this.

Mail bomb suspect Cesar Sayoc pleads guilty

Glad to see no absurd defense put forth.

Also seems worth remembering just how dangerous things are out there. And the Q crowd is now more rabid than ever as King Trump is going down one way or another.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/05/ces...years-for-sending-bombs-to-trump-critics.html

‘MAGA Bomber’ Cesar Sayoc sentenced to 20 years in prison for trying to kill Trump critics, including Obama, Clinton, Biden, Booker, Harris

“MAGA Bomber” Cesar Sayoc was sentenced to 20 years in prison on Monday for sending 16 mail bombs to 13 people around the United States last year, including leading critics of President Donald Trump such as former President Barack Obama, ex-Vice President Joe Biden, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, actor Robert De Niro and financier George Soros.

20 years? Seems a bit light to me... perfect timing for an update on this story though... Domestic terrorists are real.
 

Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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Lol yea right.

“Now that I am a sober man, I know that I a very sick man,” Sayoc reportedly said. “I wish more than anything that I could turn back time and take back what I did ... I feel the pain and suffering of these victims
.”
 
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