Mahindra pickup finally gets reviewed.

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LTC8K6

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Strange that it would get 19 in the city and only 2 more on the highway. Hopefully for them it's some sort of programming glitch.

The Jeep Liberty 2.8L turbo diesel 4X4 was rated 22/26 initially then revised to 19/23, for comparison.
 
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LTC8K6

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Here is Global Vehicles official response to the EPA results posted yesterday.

Global Vehicles has seen the EPA results for the Mahindra TR40, 4WD, automatic pickup truck posted on their website, the results are different than expected but our expectations from promises made by Mahindra has always been 29 to 30 miles per gallon for a 2WD truck, and somewhat lower for a 4WD, we have sent a message to Mahindra for further explanation and will forward as soon as we receive the answer.

http://mahindratruckforum.com/forum...ement-regarding-epa-fuel-economy-results.html
 

Baasha

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LOL! Does no one see the irony in this: Indian PICK-UP? hahahhahahahha...

Their tractors are all over the place though!

And, people seriously think $22k is "expensive"? hmm.. I find that strange on AT with people who have spent thousands of dollars on their computers.
 

Bartman39

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LOL! Does no one see the irony in this: Indian PICK-UP? hahahhahahahha...

Their tractors are all over the place though!

And, people seriously think $22k is "expensive"? hmm.. I find that strange on AT with people who have spent thousands of dollars on their computers.


Yes those tractors are all over as are several other "off" brands just because they are cheaper compared to US brands... But John Deere did something along those line to compete... The took the XX03 series which is nothing more than an older generation of tractor without a shuttle shift trans or any fancy bells and whistles and sent the dies over to India and they cast and build the parts then ship them over here to assemble and build a cheap but yes real John Deere tractor... It was designed to compete with these type tractors in sales... I havent worked for JD in some time so dont know how its doing or if its still in production...? But will say most around here agree they would rather have either a Kubota or a John Deere... (yes Kubota is made here in the US now)

$22K for a small Diesel truck is not bad but that truck is just plain FUGLY... The "Turban" is what the Indian people wear on their heads so thats way it looks like it was designed for them (goofy looking tall cab)...
 

busydude

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The "Turban" is what the Indian people wear on their heads so thats way it looks like it was designed for them (goofy looking tall cab)...

I really don't understand.. the "Turban" argument here.. it just does not make sense to me. People who regularly wear a Turban make up <5&#37; of the population. I have driven the SUV version of this platform in India(Its pretty successful over there).. and the driving experience is horrible to say the least, there not a single redeeming feature to speak of this vehicle.
 
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And it's not here? not defending, because that's how it is there, but as long as there are humans with power, there will be bribes - location/culture/religion/anything else doesn't matter.

dude, i know you're indian and all but still... coming to the defense of a "mahindra", your bias is showing.

there is absolute 0 reason to buy this pickup over the other options.
mileage isn't better than the others, and it isn't cheaper by much either.
 

punjabiplaya

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dude, i know you're indian and all but still... coming to the defense of a "mahindra", your bias is showing.

there is absolute 0 reason to buy this pickup over the other options.
mileage isn't better than the others, and it isn't cheaper by much either.

I wasn't defending the truck, if it's bad it's bad. They promised 30 mpg and it was only rated at 21mpg, so they deserve to be bashed for that. I was elaborating on the bribery. Next time, comprehend before you type.
 

Bartman39

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I really don't understand.. the "Turban" argument here.. it just does not make sense to me. People who regularly wear a Turban make up <5&#37; of the population. I have driven the SUV version of this platform in India(Its pretty successful over there).. and the driving experience is horrible to say the least, there not a single redeeming feature to speak of this vehicle.


Not an argument... Its a joke...:hmm::whiste:

Maybe with time and a bit more understanding of western tech the styling, fuel economy and other related factors of this type of auto might make it competitive but in the current form it wont... But glad to see it so it may push US auto makers into putting in to production small fuel efficient diesel cars & trucks which they have long had the ability to do so... With any luck GM will intro the 4.5ltr Duramax in the 1/2 series of trucks by 2014... Also rumors of a 4 cylinder version for the mid size trucks which might be the prelude to high performance diesel cars...? But it will also take the EPA to shoot themselves in the foot so they will wake up and pull their heads out of their @sses so this kind of market can develope or else your duracell powered cars/trucks will lead to the matrix... :biggrin:
 

foghorn67

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30+ mpg and a diesel engine.

Mahindra has been in the US agricultural market for many years now and their tractors have proven to be exceptionally reliable. If they can build reliable diesel engines for heavy agricultural equipment, I think they can manage for street use.

I think it will occupy a decent niche in the market unless they really let people down on reliability, which I don't expect.

ZV
That's like comparing Mitsubishi Heavy Industries to Mitsubishi Automobiles.
 

Throckmorton

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Strange that it would get 19 in the city and only 2 more on the highway. Hopefully for them it's some sort of programming glitch.

The Jeep Liberty 2.8L turbo diesel 4X4 was rated 22/26 initially then revised to 19/23, for comparison.

This review calls the pickup 'small' but as far as I know it's a full size pickup. It only looks small because of the goofy proportions.
 

Perknose

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You do know why that cab is that tall...? For the Turban`s...!

[...]

Time for beloved patriot to go back to the drawing board and quit smoking his imported Jamaican crap...

Hindus aren't Muslims. They don't make the pilgrimage to Mecca.

And, as has been mentioned, Sikhs (they wear turbans and also aren't Muslim) are a distinct and tiny minority of all Indians.

Finally, good weed is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent. Indeed the very art of hash making originated there. No Indian imports ganja from Jamaica.

In fact, ganja is a Sanskrit word! For you, I probably need to add this.

Way to fail hard and repeatedly here, Leroy. I dub you the Mahindra pickup of Garage posters.
 

skyking

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Bummer, I had high hopes for it. I registered way back in the beginning for a test drive.
There is no reason it cannot get those economy figures. It is not pushing that much air.
 

LTC8K6

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Well, the 2008 Grand Cherokee 4X4's 3.0L turbo intercooled diesel was rated 17/19/22 with a 5 speed auto. 215hp and 376tq.

The Mahindra is Dakota sized, I believe.
 

Bartman39

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Hindus aren't Muslims. They don't make the pilgrimage to Mecca.

And, as has been mentioned, Sikhs (they wear turbans and also aren't Muslim) are a distinct and tiny minority of all Indians.

Finally, good weed is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent. Indeed the very art of hash making originated there. No Indian imports ganja from Jamaica.

In fact, ganja is a Sanskrit word! For you, I probably need to add this.

Way to fail hard and repeatedly here, Leroy. I dub you the Mahindra pickup of Garage posters.


As I stated it was only a joke... (I think missing that was the true failure...?) But I think I will use that in my sig...:biggrin: Do think the qoute above should have been in "off topic" though...? I`m to guess this is a very close attempt to call me a racisit...? Wrong again... I think competition for our markets is good just take a look at post #60 to get a bit more insight, gotta read everything before judgement is passed...? Sorry I`m just a dumb ole Redneck that only hates stupid people... Dumb and stupid are quite different... (Doing something dumb is just a mistake but doing something stupid is deliberate...)

I have a question though...? Do you know anything about these trucks...?
 
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Bignate603

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Well, the 2008 Grand Cherokee 4X4's 3.0L turbo intercooled diesel was rated 17/19/22 with a 5 speed auto. 215hp and 376tq.

The Mahindra is Dakota sized, I believe.

I was going to say that the Grand Cherokee was probably much heavier too, but after looking up the curb weight of the diesel grand cherokee and the Aussie version of the Mahindra (4 door, 4x4) they are pretty darn close. The grand cherokee only weighs 130 lb more than the Mahindra.

You do get 2x the power out of the grand cherokee's engine though.

I think that this pretty much seals the deal, I don't expect to see any Mahindras driving around in the states.
 

Arkaign

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That's too much money for an Indian truck.

Indian ain't got nothing to do with it. It's too much money for the specs given the competition in the segment.

If this thing had 160hp/260tq, 24/28mpg, better looks/features, and was ~$15k or so, they'd sell out easily. Being as mediocre as it is, it's impossible.

Breaking into the domestic truck market is damned hard now, the steady high level of quality and competition has resulted in modern fullsize trucks being relative bargains for high quality products, at least the base models intended to showcase the trucks low price. You see ads all the time advertising 2011 F150 = $18,995!, etc. Those are base models, but even those base models have great features and build quality. That goes for Dodge and GM as well, with Toyota right there with them. Nissan was close, but their Titan is out of date now and falling behind, most particularly with the horrendous fuel economy.
 

Bignate603

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Indian ain't got nothing to do with it. It's too much money for the specs given the competition in the segment.

If this thing had 160hp/260tq, 24/28mpg, better looks/features, and was ~$15k or so, they'd sell out easily. Being as mediocre as it is, it's impossible.

Breaking into the domestic truck market is damned hard now, the steady high level of quality and competition has resulted in modern fullsize trucks being relative bargains for high quality products, at least the base models intended to showcase the trucks low price. You see ads all the time advertising 2011 F150 = $18,995!, etc. Those are base models, but even those base models have great features and build quality. That goes for Dodge and GM as well, with Toyota right there with them. Nissan was close, but their Titan is out of date now and falling behind, most particularly with the horrendous fuel economy.

The next gen Titan was supposed to be a rebadged Dodge but I think when Chrysler went belly up they killed that deal.
 

Arkaign

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The next gen Titan was supposed to be a rebadged Dodge but I think when Chrysler went belly up they killed that deal.

Yeah, a shame too, as the Dodge trucks were the only decent things that Chrysler has made in the last 20-odd years outside of the Viper.
 

Throckmorton

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Hindus aren't Muslims. They don't make the pilgrimage to Mecca.

And, as has been mentioned, Sikhs (they wear turbans and also aren't Muslim) are a distinct and tiny minority of all Indians.

Finally, good weed is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent. Indeed the very art of hash making originated there. No Indian imports ganja from Jamaica.

In fact, ganja is a Sanskrit word! For you, I probably need to add this.

Way to fail hard and repeatedly here, Leroy. I dub you the Mahindra pickup of Garage posters.

I didn't realize until now that beloved patriot was a Muslim term. I thought it was a Hindi name because of Johnny Quest

http://moniqueblog.net/2010/08/hadji-demystified-whats-in-a-name/
 
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