Maine court rules in favor of transgender pupil

[dmcowen674]

2-1-2014

http://news.yahoo.com/maine-court-rules-favor-transgender-pupil-165405315.html

Maine court rules in favor of transgender pupil



School officials violated state anti-discrimination law when they would not allow a transgender fifth-grader to use the girls' bathroom, according to a ruling by the highest court in Maine that's believed to be the first of its kind.


"This is a momentous decision that marks a huge breakthrough for transgender young people," said Jennifer Levi, director of the Boston-based Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders' Transgender Rights Project after the Maine Supreme Judicial Court's ruling on Thursday.


The court concluded that the Orono school district's actions violated the Maine Human Rights Act, which bans discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity, overturning a lower court's ruling that the district acted within its discretion.

Students at the southern Maine high school Nicole now attends stood up and cheered when news of the ruling was announced, said her father, Wayne Maines.

Nicole is a biological male who identified as a girl beginning at age 2.

 

[dmcowen674]

Slowly but Shirley gender discrimination is being eroded away.

 

[Matt1970]

Nicole is a biological male who identified as a girl beginning at age 2.

Oh bullshit. You don't have that kind of mental capacity at 2 years old.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Oh bullshit. You don't have that kind of mental capacity at 2 years old.

Agreed.

 

[IGBT]

liberalism is a mental disorder. Their actions / behavior / decisions prove this every day.

 

[Matt1970]

Look, if you want to be an innie rather than an outie, or you want to go through the adadictomy surgery, that's fine. I could came less. Do what you want with your body, but until then:

Here is where the outies go:

Here is where the innies go:

 

[Greenman]

That child has no concept of gender, it's his parents pushing this stupidity on him. The simple fact is that this is a little boy who's life is going to be clusterfuck because his parents have placed agenda in front of family. He'll end up getting castrated and loaded with chemicals to give himself the external appearance of being female, and end up dying young. It's the first play of a tragedy that will drag on for years.

 

[Retro Rob]

Oh bullshit. You don't have that kind of mental capacity at 2 years old.

They aren't allowed to even decide whether or not they can eat veggies, because they can't appreciate the benefits of having a regular intake of vegetables...yet, they are allowed to make a life-changing decision at 2?

Yeah, that's bad parenting and child abuse.

If a 2-year old can articulate what a "transgender" is and can rationally weight the pros and cons of coming out as such, then they're in a position to make that call.

I'll be waiting.

 

[Brainonska511]

Here we go again, internet psychologists in action once more.....

 

[Matt1970]

Nobody sees the horrific irony here? Some with a penis doesn't want to pee and poop in a room with other people with a penis but it is perfectly fine to have all the other people in her school with a vagina have someone with a penis pee and poop in the same bathroom with them?

He/She is going to have to have their own bathroom.

 

[Geosurface]

I believe people can effectively be "born in the wrong body" and I think there's a whole spectrum of unusual ways our messy biology can produce someone whose body and/or sexuality don't come out the way the blue print is supposed to make them. It's a complex process and lots of things can go wrong. Frankly it's amazing it goes as well as it does, as often as it does.

So I have great sympathy for anyone who ends up in such a situation. I don't know how likely it is that they or anyone else could diagnose it at 2 years old, unless they're a flat out hermaphrodite, but whatever.

Despite my sympathy though, I think a society which retains some sort of conception of what is normal and what is abnormal, is much healthier than one that throws that all to the wind.

I think the instinct to bully, mock, exclude, torment, etc is supremely unfortunate, but I think it was selected for because it had some benefit. Likely that benefit was maintaining group cohesion and strengthening commonality, solidarity, etc within the group.

I think it's right and appropriate that as an advanced society we have sought to reduce those instincts, but I think our current policy of trying to eliminate them entirely is unwise.

 

[1prophet]

You all better get used to it, and the only winners are going to be the lawyers.


http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/tr...nue-using-locker-room-with-six-year-old-girls

‘Transgender’ man may continue using girls’ locker room, says college

OLYMPIA, WA, November 9, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) – A Washington state college has decided it will not prevent a 45-year-old man from lounging naked in a women’s locker room, in an area frequented by girls as young as six.


The 45-year-old man, who calls himself Colleen Francis, presents himself as a transgender “female.”



Evergreen State College shares its locker room with Capital High School, Olympia High School, the Evergreen Swim Club, and Aquatics Academy. The latter has students as young as six.



On September 26, teenage girls on a high school swim team were using the facilities when they saw “Colleen” Francis exposing male genitalia through the glass window in a sauna.



According to the police report an eyewitness stated, “There were girls 6 to 18 years of age and they were not used to seeing individuals in situations like this.”



Later that week, the mother of one of the girls as well as their coach contacted the police, only to be told the university would not bar a biological male from the premises.



Joe Wheeler of the Thurston County Prosecutor’s Office said he will not prosecute the matter as indecent exposure.
Instead, the college set up curtains that the girls were instructed to change behind.


“Little girls should not be exposed to naked men, period. A college’s notions about ‘non-discrimination’ don’t change that,” said Alliance Defending Freedom Senior Legal Counsel David Hacker.



In a letter, Hacker warned Vice President of Student Affairs Art Constantino that the university may be held liable if any of the female students at the college experience harm from being exposed to Francis.


“Clearly, allowing a person who is biologically a man to undress and expose himself to young girls places those girls at risk for emotional distress and harm. Any reasonable person would view this as dangerous to the young girls involved,” he wrote.

 

[Retro Rob]

You all better get used to it, and the only winners are going to be the lawyers.


http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/tr...nue-using-locker-room-with-six-year-old-girls

‘Transgender’ man may continue using girls’ locker room, says college

Time for me to change my gender whenever I want to shower with women.

Dave is right, gender discrimination is ending.

Thanks proggies!

:awe:

 

[MagickMan]

That child has no concept of gender, it's his parents pushing this stupidity on him. The simple fact is that this is a little boy who's life is going to be clusterfuck because his parents have placed agenda in front of family. He'll end up getting castrated and loaded with chemicals to give himself the external appearance of being female, and end up dying young. It's the first play of a tragedy that will drag on for years.

That's it, really. Gender traits don't become enforced until after a child has been socialized, 2 years isn't nearly enough time.

 

[MagickMan]

Nobody sees the horrific irony here? Some with a penis doesn't want to pee and poop in a room with other people with a penis but it is perfectly fine to have all the other people in her school with a vagina have someone with a penis pee and poop in the same bathroom with them?

He/She is going to have to have their own bathroom.

If they get the transgender men, do we get the butch chicks? That could be interesting.

They're just going to need to have 3 (maybe 4) different types of facilities.

 

[nehalem256]

If gender is just a social construct then how can someone be "born in the wrong body" in the first place?

It seems that the whole idea of transgender people show that the hypocrisy of liberals know no bounds.

And how in the world is a 2 year old suppose to realize they are transgender.

 

[waggy]

You all better get used to it, and the only winners are going to be the lawyers.


http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/tr...nue-using-locker-room-with-six-year-old-girls

‘Transgender’ man may continue using girls’ locker room, says college

and stories like this will come more frequently over the years. all it takes is for a perv to say he is transgender and go in and get off watching girls change.

from the way that story sounds the guy is just getting off exposing himself and watching girls.

 

[waggy]

Nobody sees the horrific irony here? Some with a penis doesn't want to pee and poop in a room with other people with a penis but it is perfectly fine to have all the other people in her school with a vagina have someone with a penis pee and poop in the same bathroom with them?

He/She is going to have to have their own bathroom.

oh many do. but they get labeled as homophobes or such and told to bad.

I questioned why my daughter would have to have a gun in the locker room changing. Sorry if he feels that they really are a she. i don't want them changing in the girls locker room.

why does his feelings trump the girls?

 

[Oldgamer]

Seems like the only ones who have a problem with this are mostly men. The women who I know generally don't have issues with gays or transgendered people. I would like to see some comments from women on this subject.

 

[shortylickens]

Look, if you want to be an innie rather than an outie, or you want to go through the adadictomy surgery, that's fine. I could came less. Do what you want with your body, but until then:

Here is where the outies go:

Here is where the innies go:

What if they've got an outie with boobs and lipstick?

 

[waggy]

What if they've got an outie with boobs and lipstick?

then maybe you might have luck on getting laid! =)

 

[Newbian]

What if they've got an outie with boobs and lipstick?

Or if it's so cold out your outie becomes a innie.

 

[BoberFett]

Nicole is a biological male who identified as a girl beginning at age 2.

/facepalm

No 2 year old has sufficient life experience to self identify anything.

Sounds like abusive parents that wanted a girl.

 

[MagickMan]

Seems like the only ones who have a problem with this are mostly men. The women who I know generally don't have issues with gays or transgendered people. I would like to see some comments from women on this subject.

You're okay with your 6 y/o girl being naked next to a 50 y/o male (also naked) wearing lipstick and a wig? If that's the case, then your failure as a parent is complete. D:

 

[gevorg]

The only solution is to throw money at the problem. Build multiple individual bathrooms, unisex.