Maine court rules in favor of transgender pupil

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Jaskalas

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And how in the world is a 2 year old suppose to realize they are transgender.

They don't, it's decided for them. The insane !@#$s out there probably see a toddler pick up a dress and think it's a life altering decision.
 

Oldgamer

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You're okay with your 6 y/o girl being naked next to a 50 y/o male (also naked) wearing lipstick and a wig? If that's the case, then your failure as a parent is complete. D:

Come off it.. really.. your exaggerating and being dramatic.

This is a kid in a high school who wants to be able to use the ladies bathroom. There are some countries where there are in fact unisex bathrooms and is considered the norm.

This isn't some 6 year old with a fully naked adult. I don't have a problem with my grandkids being in the same bathroom with a gay or transgendered person.. so no. I worry more about the heterosexual males out there who are pedophiles like Jerry Sandusky and Catholic Priests. Those are the ones I would worry about.
 

Geosurface

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Wait I thought Sandusky diddled boys, and I know most of the priests were messing with boys. So why did you say heterosexual?
 

Retro Rob

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They don't, it's decided for them. The insane !@#$s out there probably see a toddler pick up a dress and think it's a life altering decision.

I wonder if after seeing a toddler pick up a Bible or Koran would these same people label him a Christian or Muslim.

 

nehalem256

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/facepalm

No 2 year old has sufficient life experience to self identify anything.

Sounds like abusive parents that wanted a girl.

Or possibly the parents saw a 2 year old boy who liked pink or thought dresses would be fund to wear and decided that therefore he must be transgendered.

It seems like the whole concept of transgenderism is fundamentally rooted in rigid self-evident gender roles.
 

nehalem256

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I sure hope your being sarcastic..

According to the John-Jay-Report 80.9% of the alleged abuse victims in the United States were male.[96] This led to William Donohue of the Catholic League to opine: "I maintain it has been a homosexual crisis all along."[247] This was described as “an unwarranted conclusion” to assert that the majority of priests who abused male victims are gay. Though “the majority of the abusive acts were homosexual in nature [...] participation in homosexual acts is not the same as sexual identity as a gay man.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases

I especially love the last part. Apparently being a gay man has nothing to do with having gay sex

So just like gender is whatever anyone says it. So is sexual orientation.
 

Geosurface

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I wonder if after seeing a toddler pick up a Bible or Koran would these same people label him a Christian or Muslim.


Had a friend when I was younger who asked his mom for a My Little Pony toy back in the 80's when the original ones were out. He didn't know it was a girl's toy and he said it was left by someone in the boy's toy aisle. I think he just thought it was a cool looking horse toy.

Not sure if she bought it for him or not, but of course nowadays his mom probably would've decided he was transgender based on that.
 

Geosurface

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I sure hope your being sarcastic..

I worry more about the heterosexual males out there who are pedophiles like Jerry Sandusky and Catholic Priests. Those are the ones I would worry about.

Were you just using them as high profile, well known examples of pedophiles and merely saying "heterosexuals who are also pedophiles like these well known pedophiles" - or are you saying that pedophilia has nothing to do with heterosexuality or homosexuality, but is it's own separate unrelated thing?

That wouldn't make sense of course because you identified the pedophiles you're worried about as being heterosexual...

So help me out here, what am I missing?
 

Retro Rob

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Had a friend when I was younger who asked his mom for a My Little Pony toy back in the 80's when the original ones were out. He didn't know it was a girl's toy and he said it was left by someone in the boy's toy aisle. I think he just thought it was a cool looking horse toy.

Not sure if she bought it for him or not, but of course nowadays his mom probably would've decided he was transgender based on that.

Kids just like toys, man, and are completely oblivious to what sex it's aimed at.

Imagine the liberal hypocritical outrage of I ordained by 2 year-old a Minister of Christ because he gravitated toward a Bible while we were in a bookstore.
 

MagickMan

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Come off it.. really.. your exaggerating and being dramatic.

This is a kid in a high school who wants to be able to use the ladies bathroom. There are some countries where there are in fact unisex bathrooms and is considered the norm.

This isn't some 6 year old with a fully naked adult. I don't have a problem with my grandkids being in the same bathroom with a gay or transgendered person.. so no. I worry more about the heterosexual males out there who are pedophiles like Jerry Sandusky and Catholic Priests. Those are the ones I would worry about.

In the case I'm talking about, and was mentioned earlier, he's 45.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/tr...nue-using-locker-room-with-six-year-old-girls

Does that fly with you?
 

Iron Woode

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That child has no concept of gender, it's his parents pushing this stupidity on him. The simple fact is that this is a little boy who's life is going to be clusterfuck because his parents have placed agenda in front of family. He'll end up getting castrated and loaded with chemicals to give himself the external appearance of being female, and end up dying young. It's the first play of a tragedy that will drag on for years.
or ending up doing porn in 10 years or so.
 

WHAMPOM

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Look, if you want to be an innie rather than an outie, or you want to go through the adadictomy surgery, that's fine. I could came less. Do what you want with your body, but until then:

Here is where the outies go:


Here is where the innies go:

Them namby pamby signs da-naught work in Scotland.
 

Tango

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I especially love the last part. Apparently being a gay man has nothing to do with having gay sex

It is a fact. Unless you think the monstrous amount of people raping other inmates in prison suddenly figure out they are homosexuals. Rape is mostly about power, not sexual attraction.

Wait I thought Sandusky diddled boys, and I know most of the priests were messing with boys. So why did you say heterosexual?

Most priests mess with boys?
 

HamburgerBoy

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It is a fact. Unless you think the monstrous amount of people raping other inmates in prison suddenly figure out they are homosexuals. Rape is mostly about power, not sexual attraction.

I suppose then that child rapists do what they do out of desire for power too? How many child rapists explicitly identify as pedophiles?

Most priests mess with boys?

Most of the priests, i.e. the priests that do mess with children predominantly mess with boys, is how I read him.
 
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Tango

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I suppose then that child rapists do what they do out of desire for power too? How many child rapists explicitly identify as pedophiles?
They come in great variety. The point is the amount of male pedophiles raping male kids that also have homosexual attraction to adult men is quite tiny. They don't like males. They like kids. And in general a great deal of their attraction comes from being in complete control of somebody who is physically/emotionally incapable of defending himself.

Most of the priests, i.e. the priests that do mess with children predominantly mess with boys, is how I read him.
Thanks, now I understand.
 

HamburgerBoy

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They come in great variety. The point is the amount of male pedophiles raping male kids that also have homosexual attraction to adult men is quite tiny. They don't like males. They like kids. And in general a great deal of their attraction comes from being in complete control of somebody who is physically/emotionally incapable of defending himself.

But afaik most of them don't simply "like kids". They like kids of a certain sex. Male children are a subset of children also known as boys, I don't see why those attracted to boys aren't labeled for what they are, that being homosexual pedophiles.
 

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Oldgamer

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In the case I'm talking about, and was mentioned earlier, he's 45.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/tr...nue-using-locker-room-with-six-year-old-girls

Does that fly with you?

The OP is not about your linked article. It is about a 16 year (transgendered female) wanting to use the bathroom of the sex who they identify with, and not being discriminated against. Apparently this kid in the OP was being bullied in the males bathroom.

Your article is something completely different.

By the way,

Quote from wiki: "Unisex restrooms are adopted in the US primarily because increasingly many elderly couples include a person whose mobility issues necessitates the other's assistance. Furthermore, transgender advocacy groups in the United States promote unisex restrooms, believing that they eliminate harassment and other inconveniences that transgender and gender non conforming people experience when using binary gendered bathrooms.

In 2005, five American cities, among these, San Francisco and New York, required that public restroom access be based on persons' perceived gender identity rather than their birth sex.

In the United Kingdom, unisex toilets are sometimes found on university campuses. Also, in early 2013, Brighton and Hove city council introduced unisex toilets."

Also Portland Oregon created unisex bathrooms
 
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waggy

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Kids just like toys, man, and are completely oblivious to what sex it's aimed at.

and this is what bothers me about this story an others i heard of. 2 yr olds just want to play with toys. they don't care about the color or what it is. they don't know dress's are for girls or such.
 

MagickMan

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The OP is not about your linked article. It is about a 16 year (transgendered female) wanting to use the bathroom of the sex who they identify with, and not being discriminated against. Apparently this kid in the OP was being bullied in the males bathroom.

Your article is something completely different.

I was addressing the post about the 45 y/o guy, I believe what we had was a miscommunication (I thought you were talking about that case since you posted right after it, that's my "herp-derp"). I don't have an issue with a sexually confused teen or tween, we shouldn't even need a law to accommodate them, people should simply be compassionate and use their common sense. The 45 y/o guy who likes to lounge around naked in a ladies' locker room, OTOH, is another matter entirely.
 

nehalem256

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The OP is not about your linked article. It is about a 16 year (transgendered female) wanting to use the bathroom of the sex who they identify with, and not being discriminated against. Apparently this kid in the OP was being bullied in the males bathroom.

Failure to give into whatever insane demands someone makes is not "discrimination".
 
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