Making pizza - particularly the crust

SaltyNuts

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How does one make pizza crust? In particular, where do I get the yeast? Do I have to go to a beer brewing store or something? Never bought yeast. Thanks!
 

SaltyNuts

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Oh interesting, never saw yeast in a grocery store, so assumed they didn't have it. Thanks!

By the way, can I use that yeast to add it to some grape juice to make wine and what not? I would guess you would pour in some yeast and let it sit for a few days.

Thanks!
 

BurnItDwn

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By the way, can I use that yeast to add it to some grape juice to make wine and what not? I would guess you would pour in some yeast and let it sit for a few days.

Thanks!
You could make wine with it, but it wont likely be good.
Bread yeast likely will die around 5-6% abv, and the wine will likely have some weird flavors due to the yeast choice.

Makes more sense to get a strain of yeast intended for wines.
I have experimented with a homebrewed mead using a bread yeast before, it was drinkable, but nothing great.
 

momeNt

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With 300+ posts since 2001 and now all the spam and Einstein shitposts, I question the authenticity of this lurker.
 

SaltyNuts

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Amazing, thank a ton guys.

"With 300+ posts since 2001 and now all the spam and Einstein shitposts, I question the authenticity of this lurker."

Easy there squirt. Some of us have a real jobie-job and don't have time to post thousands upon thousands of threads in a message forum...
 
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Muse

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I've made DIY pizza for decades. Used to do it old fashioned way, these days I use a bread machine to mix and proof the dough, then roll out on a floured board, put on a pizza pan, put on the sauce and toppings while the oven gets hot, then bake real hot until done and pull, let cool a few minutes so you don't burn your mouth. Slice with pizza cutter, enjoy.

The yeast can be gotten in most any decent sized market, it's just "active dry yeast." I get mine in packages at Costco and store in the refrigerator once opened in bottles (one small one for dispensing and a large one for the rest).

When I bake, I use a scale to measure ingredients. Once I convert volume measurements to weight, I record the conversion and consult that when I'm cooking.

If I make more pizza dough than I want to cook just then, I freeze the rest to be used later. I have some in the freezer right now. I don't make pizza often these days.

Pizza dough is exceedingly simple:

water
flour (preferably bread flour, but any wheat flour is fine)
yeast
salt

Really, nothing else is required.
 
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pete6032

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Oh interesting, never saw yeast in a grocery store, so assumed they didn't have it. Thanks!

By the way, can I use that yeast to add it to some grape juice to make wine and what not? I would guess you would pour in some yeast and let it sit for a few days.

Thanks!
Purple draaannkkk.
 
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lupi

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If making the cheese was that simple, would make it every weekend.
 

TheGardener

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Around here you can find yeast in the supermarket refrigerator case along side the butter.
 

disappoint

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Every time I see your nick OP, I think "Oh god it's the Einstein critic again."

And I don't believe in god. Nor do I believe in Einstein critics.
 

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How does one make pizza crust? In particular, where do I get the yeast? Do I have to go to a beer brewing store or something? Never bought yeast. Thanks!

There are basically two types of dough you can make:

1. Kneaded dough
2. No-knead dough

You can either knead the dough yourself (by hand, with a mixer, or with a food processor) or let the dough knead itself (better flavor & no tools needed - just your hands - but takes more time). If you do a lot of prep at home & don't mind planning ahead, no-knead dough only takes a minute to make:

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/03/jim-laheys-no-knead-pizza-dough-recipe.html

The basic idea is that you mix together (with your hands in a bowl if you want, super easy) the base ingredients (flour, water, salt, yeast) & then let it rise for 18 hours. The yeast basically kneads itself during this time & will pretty much double in size by itself. Lately I've been liking a variation of it that I call low-knead dough...it's the same basic idea as no-knead, but you do some light kneading for a few minutes to remove clumps:

http://www.bakingsteel.com/blog/72-hour-pizza-dough

You let it rise for 24 hours, then let it ferment in the fridge for 48 hours. So 3 days total. At this point, you can either cook it or throw it in the freezer for future use. No-knead is nice because it's not picky on flour (you can use all-purpose or bread flour).

There are a million recipes for kneaded dough. One of my favorites is food processor pizza dough:

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/07/basic-new-york-style-pizza-dough.html

It's more of a low-knead dough too, since you only run it in the food processor for maybe a minute, but then you stick it in the fridge to ferment. The nice thing about this particular dough is that you can use it in one day or five days (plus you can freeze it at the 3-day mark if you want to get even lazier, haha). The catch is that you need to wait at least one day before using it, and it needs to be left at room temp for 2 hours before baking it. So it kind of depends on if you want pizza right now or tomorrow or later in the week. A lot of these doughs can be re-purposed as well...you can make calzones, breadsticks, etc.

Yeast is what makes stuff with flour poof up, otherwise you get flatbread. As far as types of yeast goes, there are basically two kinds: regular & instant. Regular is called "active dry yeast" and instant is called "bread machine yeast" (or rapid-rise, or quick-rise yeast). The grocery store usually sells a small brown glass jar or packets of it (Red Star is a good brand, they are typically found next to the eggs in the refrigerated section); if you want to order it online, Amazon sells SAF instant yeast in 1-pound packs for under ten bucks. You can store them in your fridge, or if you don't use yeast that often, in the freezer (freezer is easy if you have an airtight container, makes it last longer). There's not really a huge difference between the two, other than instant yeast works a little faster, but it really depends on the recipe (some recipes double in size in like 20 minutes instead of 2 hours, some are much less, just depends on what you're making...bread, pizza, rolls, etc.). SAF in particular advertises that you can use it in place of active dry yeast & don't need to proof it or activate it in warm water, just mix with dry ingredients, and a huge amount is like eight bucks shipped, so I'd just go with that if you're not in a rush.

The two primary things you need to make great pizza at home are high temperatures & a good cooking surface. High temps are the hardest. It's best to have something that goes between 700 to 900F, but most people don't have that. An oven that gets up to 550F is the next best thing, but not many ovens do that either. There are some tricks you can do with your oven to amp up the temp like leaving the door slightly ajar, using the broiler, etc. It's also helpful to have a good cooking surface, like a pizza stone, cast iron, or a baking steel. Before getting into all of that, however, I'd start out with pan pizza. This is like Pizza Hut, back when they were good in the 80's & 90's:

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2013/01/foolproof-pan-pizza-recipe.html

Easiest way to do this is to make the no-knead dough, let it sit overnight to poof up, split it into two dough balls, and then cook it in the oven. This is one of my family's favorite recipes. Super easy to make! Oh, and one thing I do recommend buying is a small kitchen scale for weighing grams, for accuracy. You can find good ones for under twenty bucks on Amazon.

I've spent the last year or so tinkering with homemade pizza. There is a ton of stuff to try out: different dough methods, pizza sauces (canned, bottled, and homemade), types of cheese, methods of cooking, etc. We typically do red pizza (regular pizza sauce), white pizza (like a ricotta-based pizza), or naked pizza (olive oil, with toppings, almost like focaccia bread). You can make it in your oven, on your grill, on a special pizza grill (like the PizzaQue or Blackstone), make a homemade pizza oven (out of brick or cob)...there's a million ways to do it.

Especially with stuff like the 5-day food processor dough above, it's easy enough to keep cook it up a few times a week once you get into a routine...spend a minute mixing up a couple of batches Sunday night, then make pizza on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Take the dough out of the fridge right when you get home from work or school, let it get to room temp for a couple hours, then bake it. Pepperoni & cheese, moz & basil, Chinese chicken pizza, the possibilities are endless!
 
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Every time I see your nick OP, I think "Oh god it's the Einstein critic again."

And I don't believe in god. Nor do I believe in Einstein critics.
He needs to come back to that thread.

SaltyNuts. Come out and Playyyyyyy



Not to be totally off topic, we also use a bread machine. It makes really good dough. With rapid rise yeast it doesn't even take too long.
 
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Kaido

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Not to be totally off topic, we also use a bread machine. It makes really good dough. With rapid rise yeast it doesn't even take too long.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention the bread machine method.

Homemade pizza is really interesting because once you try out some good methods & get away from that nasty elementary school-style homemade pizza, things really start to heat up...not only in the flavor department, but in the health department, because you're not just eating manufactured grease, you're controlling ALL of the ingredients & putting on exactly what you want...fresh meat & vegetables, good-quality cheese, dough made from just a few raw ingredients, cooked on things like pizza stones instead of pans of oil, etc.
 
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MongGrel

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We cheat and buy fresh dough at Publix a lot of the time these days.

They make fresh dough on a daily basis pretty cheap, and is as good or better than anything I've ever made at home in the past to be honest.

 
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ZimFreak

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Oh interesting, never saw yeast in a grocery store, so assumed they didn't have it. Thanks!

By the way, can I use that yeast to add it to some grape juice to make wine and what not? I would guess you would pour in some yeast and let it sit for a few days.

Thanks!


Every grocery store should have yeast. Check near the flour in the "baking needs" aisle, or sometimes it's in the dairy cooler near the cheese and yogurt.

Then you'll find instant (or fast-rise, or fast-acting) yeast and active dry yeast. They're both fine in any bread recipe but must be treated a little differently. Active dry yeast needs to be woken up by soaking it in warm (not hot) water for like 10 minutes, then added to the rest of the ingredients. Instant yeast can just be dumped in with the flour, and is easier for most people.

And the little packs of yeast are fine but you'll need a whole pack for one pizza (unless you use a slow-rising no-knead recipe). So you should buy the jar or bricks of yeast and keep them in the freezer between uses to prolong the life of the yeast.

And feel free to ask me for more help I would highly recommend checking out www.reddit.com/r/breadit and www.reddit.com/r/pizza for FAQ's and technique how-to's and recipe ideas.
 

gradoman

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Forget all this dough, yeast, kneeding nonsense. Just buy pita bread. By far, the easiest way to create a crust. Dump all your (cooked) toppings on the pita, put it in the oven, let it stay til it's as crunchy as you want.
 
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Carson Dyle

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We cheat and buy fresh dough at Publix a lot of the time these days.

They make fresh dough on a daily basis pretty cheap, and is as good or better than anything I've ever made at home in the past to be honest.


That barely even looks like anything I'd call pizza. How thick is that stuff?
 
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