Malaysian airlines has lost a 777

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skyking

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If your goal was terrorism, it is quite plausible that you would try and "hide" the crash site to maximize effect. Taking it out to deep, open ocean would do that.
 

Gunslinger08

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If by some crazy chance this does turn out to be piracy and the plane landed, I'd assume we won't know about it until after a large military operation has taken place to rescue any hostages and capture the perps.

The idea that the plane was piloted over land without notice still seems pretty far fetched, but a hijacker or suicidal pilot flying into the middle of the ocean for hours also seems unlikely.
 

Gunslinger08

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Why would you keep all those people alive if you just wanted the plane?


I don't think they would, but the military in whatever country was the landing spot will most likely assume hostages and treat it as such. This is opposed to just bombing the hanger remotely.
 

CZroe

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If your goal was terrorism, it is quite plausible that you would try and "hide" the crash site to maximize effect. Taking it out to deep, open ocean would do that.

But you would also make it known (announce responsibility) for maximum effect or else the duration of the search isn't nearly as effective. I think it is some kind of piracy.
 

skyking

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Why would announcing responsibility increase the duration of the search? The world would know who and why.
It is the mystery that is keeping this thing going, maximizing media attention.
I was not drawing any conclusions, simply making an observation.
 

MaxFusion16

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we may never find this plane, unless they find clues in the captain's home, or if the perpetrator wants the plane found.

the new search area is just insane.
 

88keys

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Just like ATOT?

Perhaps. But it's different when you accuse people in your speculation. Once someone is accused of something; people tend to presume that person is guilty without evidence and will often cling to that notion despite mountains of evidence to the contrary. This is what happened when early media reports suggested that a Saudi National was responsible for the Boston Bombing which was later embellished upon by Glenn Beck. But of course it turned out that Glenn Beck was full of shit as usual, but that didn't stop his fans from sending the kid death threats.




I wouldn't rule out hijacking, nor would I even rule out theft at this point. But either way I really don't care what anybody thinks might have happened until some physical trace of the plane is found somewhere.
 
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GagHalfrunt

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But you would also make it known (announce responsibility) for maximum effect or else the duration of the search isn't nearly as effective. I think it is some kind of piracy.

That. If the plane was brought down terror groups would happily take credit for it. The fact that none have stepped forward makes it reasonable to believe that the plane is intact and being hidden for some other purpose with no group claiming responsibility so as not to give clues about where it might be.
 

CZroe

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Why would announcing responsibility increase the duration of the search? The world would know who and why.
It is the mystery that is keeping this thing going, maximizing media attention.
I was not drawing any conclusions, simply making an observation.

That's not what I'm saying: People need to be terrorized if lengthening the search is to cause more terror. If people spend most of that time assuming it simply crashed then it does no good. It does not serve a terrorist's goals if people don't realize it's terrorism.

Got it?
 
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BUTCH1

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We all knew it was just a matter of time......



Why would the makers of an inter-stellar craft want a 777? That would be akin to the owner of a Corvette stealing a $5 hot-wheels toy. Unless they are fascinated by human DNA, in that scenario abducting a large plane like the triple 7 would make sense, lot's of sample's and no one ever see's anything..
 

Svnla

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I don't think it matters much if were dealing with a single engine Cessna or a 777 when the search area just became either a chunk of ocean half the size of the United States or any airport or runway in South and South East Asia.

What I was trying to say is it is a very large plane, it is much much harder to steal and/or conceal it and take it somewhere (if the conspiracy/pirate(s) took over the plane to somewhere else theory is true). Sound like the old Bond movie "Moonraker".

Now the families members of the passengers are hoping that the plane was hijacked and been taken somewhere else. At least, there are some faint hope for them still alive.
 
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quikah

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Why would the makers of an inter-stellar craft want a 777? That would be akin to the owner of a Corvette stealing a $5 hot-wheels toy. Unless they are fascinated by human DNA, in that scenario abducting a large plane like the triple 7 would make sense, lot's of sample's and no one ever see's anything..

Maybe they need to finish their "airplanes of earth" collection.
 

BoomerD

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Why would the makers of an inter-stellar craft want a 777? That would be akin to the owner of a Corvette stealing a $5 hot-wheels toy. Unless they are fascinated by human DNA, in that scenario abducting a large plane like the triple 7 would make sense, lot's of sample's and no one ever see's anything..

Food...that's like buying steaks in a Costco variety pack!
 

Svnla

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ABC News just have a clip about the Northwest 2501 that went missing over 60 years (in 1950) ago nears Lake Michigan. The wreckage never been found and none of the 50 plus passengers were found. It was the worse airline with passengers accident then.

Imagine trying to locate an airplane (larger) in a much much larger area (water plus land) for this 777.

More information about the case = http://www.kare11.com/story/entertainment/television/programs/kare-11-extras/2013/11/26/3735003/
 
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alkemyst

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ABC News just have a clip about the Northwest 2501 that went missing over 60 years (in 1950) ago nears Lake Michigan. The wreckage never been found and none of the 50 plus passengers were found. It was the worse airline with passengers accident then.

The Canadians hijacked it to start an airline.
 

sontakke

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anybody knows the rationale for the two red arcs (and a break in the middle) on the either side? what makes them so certain that it is not between the two red arcs? how is that portion ruled out?
 

phucheneh

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anybody knows the rationale for the two red arcs (and a break in the middle) on the either side? what makes them so certain that it is not between the two red arcs? how is that portion ruled out?

The timing, I would assume. Assuming you assume that the plane assumed a relatively straight flight path at a typical cruising speed.

But that relies on...wait for it...assumption. If could have flown in circles for all anyone knows.
 
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