Malaysian airlines has lost a 777

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rudeguy

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How else do you think I surf atforums.mobi?

http://i.imgur.com/SqWXg6b.jpg

Edit: How the heck did that guy even upload a Youtube video, hahahaha...

I don't know but that video led me down a crazy rabbit hole. Holy shit some people are nuts and want everyone to know it.

Also...don't forget to double the foil over. Its very important to have shiny on both sides!
 

Red Squirrel

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Someone on reddit said they found this in Australia.



Could also be some kind of bad April Fool's joke though. Either the OP, or some random person spreading these around lol.
 

squarecut1

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FBI said nothing big from the hard drives:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/26/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Shady stuff goes on in third-world countries. If the Malaysian government was sponsoring a drug run or had human cargo for trafficking or something, that would clearly explain why they wouldn't want to release the manifest. Doesn't necessarily need to be something as sinister as weapons.

What is more amazing that you don't know that Malaysia is anything but a third world country.
 

Kaido

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What is more amazing that you don't know that Malaysia is anything but a third world country.

You're right, I should rephrase that to "some foreign countries". We seem to be a lot stricter about airline-related stuff in the U.S. than other places...from what I've heard from friends who have traveled abroad. Although it seems like airline security should be the same no matter where you go, especially for international flights.

Also, their technology seems to be better than they have said, according to this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ment-purposefully-concealing-information.html

Malaysia’s government is deliberately concealing information that would help to explain what happened to missing Flight MH370, the country’s opposition leader has claimed.

In a wide-ranging interview that cast doubt on the official investigation into the disappearance of the plane, Anwar Ibrahim said the country’s “sophisticated” radar system would have identified it after it changed course and crossed back over Malaysia.

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In an interview with The Telegraph, he said that he had personally authorised the installation of “one of the most sophisticated radar” systems in the world, based near the South China Sea and covering Malaysia’s mainland and east and west coastlines, when he was the country’s finance minister in 1994.

It was “not only unacceptable but not possible, not feasible” that the plane had not been sighted by the Marconi radar system immediately after it changed course. The radar, he said, would have instantly detected the Boeing 777 as it travelled east to west across “at least four” Malaysian provinces.

Mr Anwar said it was “baffling” that the country’s air force had “remained silent”, and claimed that it “should take three minutes under SOP (standard operating procedure) for the air force planes to go. And there was no response.”
 
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Ns1

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You're right, I should rephrase that to "some foreign countries". We seem to be a lot stricter about airline-related stuff in the U.S. than other places...from what I've heard from friends who have traveled abroad. Although it seems like airline security should be the same no matter where you go, especially for international flights.

Depends entirely on where you go.

In my recent experience, Mumbai/Amsterdam both had higher security @ airports than US. And security @ Mumbai was mother fucking soldiers with guns. Gruff mother fucking soldiers with guns.
 

NFS4

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Looks like they may have found it. AP breaking news that Chinese ship has detected signal consistent with aircraft black box.
 

Mark R

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The Chinese have reported that they have detected the signal on 2 occasions. One today, one yesterday.

While this is good news if true, we won't know until further searches and investigation can be carried out. This whole episode has been characterised by rampant misinformation from various governments, denials, contradictions and delay.

If you really want to be cynical, consider the following:
The Chinese search vessel is operating many hundreds of miles away from the consensus search area, based upon the most likely location of the crash site.
The vessel detected the signal on multiple occasions, but on each occasion, the signal took the supervisory staff by surprise and they failed to start recording equipment
Chinese news crews were present on the search vessel at the time of detection and were able to give TV interviews minutes after apparent detection

There has been considerable criticism of multiple nations' handling of this event, with both Malaysia and China being slow to react and slow to investigate/request assistance when they realised they couldn't deal with it themselves. This could easily be seen as a cynical ploy for the Chinese govt to make it look like they are doing something.

I just hope that this is a genuine finding, and that they above arguments are just conspiracy theories.
 

biostud

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Wouldn't it be quite easy to transmit a gps signal from a plane once every minute, and send it to a central server that sound an alarm if the plane is more than 20% off its designated route.
 

CZroe

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Wouldn't it be quite easy to transmit a gps signal from a plane once every minute, and send it to a central server that sound an alarm if the plane is more than 20% off its designated route.

It would need to be transmitted over one of the mediums they turned off.
 

Mark R

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Wouldn't it be quite easy to transmit a gps signal from a plane once every minute, and send it to a central server that sound an alarm if the plane is more than 20% off its designated route.

Yes. If you are building new planes, and using a new satellite system.

Modern satellite systems have high bandwidth and can tolerate that. In fact, Inmarsat who supply satellite services to airlines, say they could provide the bandwidth for about $1 per hour per flight. Old satellite systems often have very low bandwidth - the legacy inmarsat system that MH370 was using had a bandwidth of about 10 kbps shared between dozens of planes. You couldn't practically use it for a position broadcast system.

However, getting aircraft approval for electronics is difficult, due to the high level of safety required. Retrofits can be difficult and may be risky if not done to OEM quality (e.g. Swissair Flight 111 crashed after a retro-fitted inflight entertainment system for VIPs caught fire).

For things like satellite comms, how do you integrate it into an existing aircraft - does it need additional power, or signal connections; does it fit the same bolt holes, etc. You can't just go adding extra wires or drilling new holes in an aircraft chassis, like you would when you retrofit a new entertainment system into a car. It all has to be carefully planned and done to spec. And don't forget that any upgrade needs to fully support the systems already in the plane (which may be customised) and which are often safety critical (e.g. emergency communication messages).

The problem is that aircraft technology moves at a glacial pace, because of the need for extreme safety validation and testing. Further aircraft are often kept in service for many years, many commercial airlines are over 30 years old, and some commercial aircraft are over 40 years old.

The other issue is who pays. Airlines won't want to pay unless they have to. The question is which regulators are going to demand it, and what flights are they going to demand it for. The FAA doesn't have jurisdiction over Asian carriers except for flights which go to the US. It's almost pointless for domestic US flights, as the aircraft couldn't go far off course, and even if it did, it would be likely to come down on land and be easily found.

The fact that this event has caused so much interest is because it is unprecedented in modern times - in other words, it is an extraordinarily rare event. The reaction to such a rare event needs to be carefully judged, otherwise the cost of preventing it risks dwarfing the cost of the risk of it recurring.
 
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Ns1

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Oh shit

Ocean Shield has been able to reacquire the signals that are consistent with airplane locator beacons on two more occasions -- both on Tuesday, said Angus Houston, head of the Australian-led search effort on Wednesday.

Ocean Shield has now detected four transmissions in the same broad area.

"I believe we are searching in the right area," he said.

[Last update posted at 9:56 p.m. ET ]

Flight 370: Careful not to project 'false hope' as days go by since last pulses

(CNN) -- By air and by sea, searches resumed Wednesday for evidence of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 -- the latest focus stemming from underwater pulses, possibly from the plane, that have yet to pan out.
 
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Ns1

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positive developments for sure:

A fifth signal has been detected in the Indian ocean that Australian authorities believe to be man-made, in a further indication the search is narrowing for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

The head of Australia's joint agency coordination centre, Angus Houston, said late on Thursday the latest ping had been detected by an Australian AP-3C Orion aircraft near the location where the Australian defence vessel Ocean Shield had picked up signals earlier in the week.

Houston has not yet indicated whether the signal – like the four previous ones – is likely to be from the black box of a plane, but said further testing was under way.

"The acoustic data will require further analysis overnight but shows potential of being from a made-made source," Houston said. "I will provide a further update if, and when, further information becomes available."

The more pulses authorities detect the easier it will be to narrow down the search for the plane, which is presumed to be lost in the Indian ocean, claiming the lives of all 239 passengers on board.

Ocean Shield picked up two signals on Tuesday consistent with those emitted from a black box. It allowed the search area to be further refined to 75,000 square kilometres. The area has narrowed even further since then to just 57,900 sq km on Thursday.

The Orion aircraft have been dropping sonobuoys in the Indian ocean for the past several weeks, which sit about 300m below the surface and can transmit data back to the planes.

Finding the flight data and cockpit voice recorders soon is crucial because their locator beacons have a battery life of about a month, and Tuesday marked one month since MH370 vanished en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

Up to 10 military aircraft, four civilian aircraft and 13 ships were involved in the search on Thursday.
 
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