Malaysian airlines has lost a 777

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Kaido

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plane is in Pakistan at a Taliban controlled airfield. US called off the USS Kidd naval search. More to come in 24-48hrs per US intelligence. Delay is issued not to embarrass other countries in the search. US has very strong leads the plan has landed in Pakistan. No word on the passengers.

If that's true, then that is absolutely insane. Perfectly doable, too:

1. Reprogram airplane & wait for ATC handoff
2. Slip pilot a sleeping pill
3. Disable ACARS & transponder
4. Disappear to pre-selected location

It would just be a matter of timing & preparation.
 

alkemyst

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The real reason for the cell phone ban is so that you're not stuck next to some idiot jabbering away on his phone for 5 hours straight. Can you imagine being stuck on a flight with the person on your left and the person on your right talking nonstop while fighting over an armrest with you? The heart of the rule is forced common courtesy, not technical issues.

I am out of this thread.
 

02ranger

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I agree, it's because I am honest. People today want agreement with their stupidity. If you are going to post on a major world event, please have some knowledge first instead of spreading FUD. To help you, that's Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. I don't see you as the seeder (it's a powerful tool), you just somehow bought into it.

"Hey I showed up for the bestest job I ever could have got! I forgot to take out my face piercings and was only a little late and only a little hungover/stoned ...that bastard told me to leave the building! It was a sure thing! OMG I have been so much more stoned than that in my life! These manager people probably never worked a day in their life!"
I am hoping your 02Ranger <> you were an actual ranger in the military.

What the hell are you talking about? Where did I say or do anything even semi-related to FUD? It's like we're not even having the same conversation. And what on earth does the bolded part have to do with anything?

BTW, I have never been in the military. 02ranger was the truck I drove at the time I created the account............
 

phucheneh

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I don't understand why the posted Wired link is not, for the moment, '/thread.'

All of the other speculation is pretty shitty in comparison. That article confirmed my suspicion that 'good night' was simply a standard 'catch you on the flipside, homeslices' to the ATC they were flying away from. It offered a very believable sequence of events, a reason for loss of comms, rerouting...pretty much everything. This is the theory that follows the razor and everything else is pretty dumb without more compelling evidence.
 

OutHouse

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Unless the plane crashed and the black box experienced a certain amount of g's...it won't transmit a signal. Another way to activate is if it get submerged.

what about all the ELT's onboard? you fly havnet you ever put it down a little hard and set it off? heheh
 

Scarpozzi

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I think the problem is they're searching the Indian Ocean...they need to search the Atlantic. I think they accidentally (or purposefully) flew through the Bermuda Triangle and that's why it vanished.
 

Gunslinger08

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I don't understand why the posted Wired link is not, for the moment, '/thread.'

All of the other speculation is pretty shitty in comparison. That article confirmed my suspicion that 'good night' was simply a standard 'catch you on the flipside, homeslices' to the ATC they were flying away from. It offered a very believable sequence of events, a reason for loss of comms, rerouting...pretty much everything. This is the theory that follows the razor and everything else is pretty dumb without more compelling evidence.

It's fun to think about the crazy possibilities, to divert our attention away from the (probable) reality that 239 people are dead on the ocean floor. Hijacking/piracy gives us a small chance that their are survivors among the innocent and that we will have justice against the cause of this incident, instead of just some recommendations by travel safety boards and manufacturers.
 

phucheneh

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Here's my own [non]EXPERT ANALYSIS!



Plane intends to fly north along purpled route. SHTF somewhere around that split and they turn toward Langwaki. Then they all lose consciousness and keep flying until fuel runs out.

Maybe the Somalis already have the plane. Have there been any reports of pirate ships strongly resembling airliners?
 

quikah

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I don't understand why the posted Wired link is not, for the moment, '/thread.'

All of the other speculation is pretty shitty in comparison. That article confirmed my suspicion that 'good night' was simply a standard 'catch you on the flipside, homeslices' to the ATC they were flying away from. It offered a very believable sequence of events, a reason for loss of comms, rerouting...pretty much everything. This is the theory that follows the razor and everything else is pretty dumb without more compelling evidence.

The answer is in the article. "You will find it along that route-looking elsewhere is pointless." It hasn't been found in that route, if it flew straight and then crashed after it ran out of fuel it should be fairly easy to find.
 

MaxFusion16

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I don't understand why the posted Wired link is not, for the moment, '/thread.'

All of the other speculation is pretty shitty in comparison. That article confirmed my suspicion that 'good night' was simply a standard 'catch you on the flipside, homeslices' to the ATC they were flying away from. It offered a very believable sequence of events, a reason for loss of comms, rerouting...pretty much everything. This is the theory that follows the razor and everything else is pretty dumb without more compelling evidence.

so this theory is basically ignoring all the waypoint flying and satcom pings, yea /thread indeed.

satcom pings put the plane nowhere near maldives, and the satcom pings are verified, whereas the maldives story is just villager sightings.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_t...ellow_s_theory_about_a_fire_and_langkawi.html

/thread
 

MaxFusion16

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Here's my own [non]EXPERT ANALYSIS!



Plane intends to fly north along purpled route. SHTF somewhere around that split and they turn toward Langwaki. Then they all lose consciousness and keep flying until fuel runs out.

Maybe the Somalis already have the plane. Have there been any reports of pirate ships strongly resembling airliners?

CHRIS GOODFELLOW is an idiot
 
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I don't understand why the posted Wired link is not, for the moment, '/thread.'

All of the other speculation is pretty shitty in comparison. That article confirmed my suspicion that 'good night' was simply a standard 'catch you on the flipside, homeslices' to the ATC they were flying away from. It offered a very believable sequence of events, a reason for loss of comms, rerouting...pretty much everything. This is the theory that follows the razor and everything else is pretty dumb without more compelling evidence.

It doesn't account for the fact that the rerouting occurred before the call to ATC calmly saying good night, nor does it account for the fact that the plane's course changed course at two different waypoints long after the transponder was deactivated (and after the plane had overflown the very Langkawi airport where he maintains the pilots intended to land). Accordingly the pilots had to be alive at a time that, under Goodfellow's theory, they were either dead or unconscious, yet they took no action to actually land at Langkawi. Other than those significant facts (which Goodfellow presumably didn't know when he wrote that piece), his theory seems reasonable and plausible. I don't see how to square his theory with these facts, however.
 
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Sulaco

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You still didn't read or understand my post, and you know fuckall about aviation, compared to me or anybody else with background.

You are being trolled. Alky's tiny ego is being threatened by your vastly more knowledgable position and background, and now he lashes out like a teenager being put in his place by an adult.

Those of us who don't derive our self worth from pretending to be superior to people on internet tech forums actually do appreciate your insight. Please continue posting.
 

bononos

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Here's my own [non]EXPERT ANALYSIS!



Plane intends to fly north along purpled route. SHTF somewhere around that split and they turn toward Langwaki. Then they all lose consciousness and keep flying until fuel runs out.

Maybe the Somalis already have the plane. Have there been any reports of pirate ships strongly resembling airliners?

The last known location of the missing mh370 seems to be on 2 wide arcs based on a faint satellite ping at 8:11am.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malays...tery-deepens-as-search-area-expands-1.2575295
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/03/17/malaysia-airlines-idINDEEA2G08020140317
 

RampantAndroid

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Has anyone drawn a arc around Kuala Lumpur with the max range of the aircraft shown? I realize the climb to cruising altitude and climb to 40k feet reduce this some, but the max possible would still be interesting given the claims in the Maldives. Could they have made it to Somolia for example?
 

dmcowen674

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Well remember back in the 70's on back we routinely lost ships and planes in the Bermuda triangle.

This looks to be like that.

Has any other ships or planes been lost in that area before?

Edit: News reports concur

3-18-2014

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/missing-malaysia-plane-never-found-182603607--finance.html

What if the missing Malaysia plane is never found?



The plane must be somewhere. But the same can be said for Amelia Earhart's.


Ten days after Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared with 239 people aboard, an exhaustive international search has produced no sign of the Boeing 777, raising an unsettling question: What if the airplane is never found?


While rare nowadays, history is not short of such mysteries &#8212; from the most famous of all, American aviator Earhart, to planes and ships disappearing in the so-called Bermuda Triangle.


It has been nearly 50 years since a plane carrying more than two dozen people vanished without a trace, according to a list of unexplained aviation disappearances tracked by the Flight Safety Foundation. An Argentine military plane carrying 69 people disappeared in 1965 and has never been found.


"We all expect we're going to find this plane and the chances are probably pretty good that we'll find something. But you know, I think everyone thought that about Amelia Earhart as well," said Phaedra Hise, a pilot and author of "Pilot Error: The Anatomy of a Plane Crash." ''We know there's a chance that we may never find out what happened. Which is a little scary, isn't it?"
 
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