Malaysian airlines has lost a 777

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LTC8K6

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"Engineers at Inmarsat Plc (ISAT), whose satellite picked up the pings, plotted seven positions for the Boeing Co. (BA) 777-200ER on March 8, Chris McLaughlin, a company spokesman, said in an interview. The plane flew steadily away from the satellite over the equator while pinging, McLaughlin said."

The engineers at Inmarsat were able to validate their estimates of the plane’s location by matching its position at 1:07 a.m., when it sent a burst of data through its Aircraft Communications and Reporting System, McLaughlin said. That final transmission on Acars included a GPS position that was used to calibrate the other estimates, he said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...eady-speed-over-ocean-inmarsat-estimates.html

Inmarsat was very thorough. This should debunk any landing ideas.
 

Kaido

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That's not what your link says at all.
They encountered a freighter and dolphins and, admitted that they couldn't find the possible debris, and surmised that the possible debris had floated off.

I guess it was kind of poorly-written. They made it sound that way - "instead finding only a freighter and two pods of dolphins". Semantics.

A nine hour search of the Indian Ocean by the world's most sophisticated search plane failed to locate the objects spotted by a satellite that investigators believe could be from the missing Malaysia Airlines jet, instead finding only a freighter and two pods of dolphins.
 

Svnla

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Can someone not wearing an aluminum foil hat succinctly explain why so many people care so passionately about all this?

I do care about this case because:

1. I do have plenty of friends and business associates/partners in Asia.
2. I do travel a lot to Asia for business (at least once a year) so aviation safety is very important to me.
3. The multiple changes (locations, who was/were the bad guy(s), etc.) and theories about this care are endless and intriguing to say the least.

We will wait and see if and when they can find the wreck/more information.
 

rudeguy

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Sounds like the Malaysians aren't the only ones full of shit.

the media is overflowing with it


Black holes? Zombie planes?

This situation has me curious but not obsessed. Some people have crossed that line and are into the tin foil hat crowd.
 

GTaudiophile

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Makes you wonder if Malaysian was chosen because someone knew they did not purchase the feature?

Free advertising for Boeing!
 

chowderhead

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I am not a defender of Malaysia Airlines but they operate over 100,000 flights in 2012. That $10 per flight is 1 million dollars. Malaysia Airlines has consistently lost money and is owned by the Malaysia government who was rumored to have wanted to sell. Of course in hindsight, it would have been wise to subscribe but this is what SWIFT does:
"Had the Swift system been upgraded to include the full package of applications, it could have sent information on engine performance, fuel consumption, speed, altitude and direction, regardless of whether the transponder and ACARS were working, he said."
This information can be downloaded on a USB drive once the plane is landed.

Engine performance - well Rolls Royce does that already
Fuel Consumption, speed, altitude and direction (transponder and ACARS).
Problems - that's the pilot's job to report.

From the point of view of the Board and CEO this service might have been redundant. They are hemorrhaging money (lost 130 million dollars in 2012) and this is not going to be a high priority in my opinion. Hindsight is 20/20.
 
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Ns1

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^^

Well this search is gonna cost a lot more than a few million....
 

BUTCH1

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IMO it's time for a new type of "black box" to be deployed, it could be mounted in a small cavity with a thin metal skin above it, once the plane comes in contact with water it would be automatically ejected and it would also have to be buoyant. I would also incorporate the ability to emit not just radio pings but marker dyes and give it the ability to emit dyes 4-5 times in a week's time, a large field of orange dye is a lot easier to spot than a small metal box. It should also (via GPS) record the information of when it was first ejected so searchers would know exactly (or close to it) where the aircraft hit the water. It took 2 years to finally locate the wreckage of Air France 447 and that plane had it's transponder and everything else working. Sadly I don't think this plan's debris will ever be found given the size of the possible search area and the unforgiving nature of the ocean bottom that covers that part of the search area..
 

RaistlinZ

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But it's been two weeks. Waves could have carried a piece of debris hundreds of miles away from the crash site by now.
 

BUTCH1

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But it's been two weeks. Waves could have carried a piece of debris hundreds of miles away from the crash site by now.

Yup, I just don't see them ever finding this plane, eventually the $$ will dry up and it will remain as one of those that fit in the rare category of "cannot be explained"..
 
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