Male Nurses

[Mo0o]

Good alternative to being a doc if you dont want to spend a lot of time in school

 

[purepolly]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: animalia
I think that if people got over the phobia of being considered gay it would be more popular. How do you think you would like it?.

I don't think I would make a good nurse. I think you have to have a certain type of personality, where you can be warm and caring towards the complete strangers you have to look after. I can do that occasionally, but being required to behave that way all the time (for a job) would be stressful.

So go into the OR or ICU...

 

[deejayshakur]

what does that make female doctors?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: deejayshakur
what does that make female doctors?

Hot?

- M4H

 

[illusion88]

Originally posted by: animalia

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

Originally posted by: animalia

Originally posted by: Flyback
Years ago I worked in a hospital (as a security guard).



My advice? Become a paramedic. You don't get attached and the thrill is nuts. I would go out and chill with the paramedics when they reloaded up their trucks and got ready for their next calls. I didn't find a single one of them to dislike their job--most had been there for a long time and they were among the most pleasant people I dealt with at the whole hospital. You have a constantly new "office" in that you are always going to different places. You can feel that you help people, but you don't have to sit around and watch sh!t hit the fan in the ER--your job is to get them there as alive as possible, then it becomes the burden of the Gods (aka Doctors). Pay is good in most places too, and you require less education than a nurse. Here, nurses require a 4 year degree. Paramedics can get in with a 2 year program from a few local (read: cheaper) colleges. The only major downside is that you are a responder to accidents, trauma, etc. You can get messed up just the same as you would in a hospital in that regard I guess.

that's funny you say that because I am starting my training to become an EMT-B in one week so I can eventually be a paramedic. I was just curious about male nurses. I can't wait to get out in the field. I have a non-pristine driving record from when I was 17 (only one year ago) that may affect me getting a job, so I might have to work as an ER Tech. You should see my textbooks for the EMT class (1 huge book, I huge workbook, and 1 small workbook. lots of material.)

edit - some ambulances alternate drivers. some don't. So I may get lucky. The pay I think is pretty much about the same or a little less than that of an elementary school teacher. That is just what I think. Salary.com's 25th percentile for my area is like 31K and for NYC it's 39K, keep in mind 25th percentile means 75% make more.

Many paramedics I know go on to become nurses because of the pay. The difference in education is because nurses deal with aftercare, patient counseling, and clinical situations.

anamilia: I have been working since 95, in three different areas, and we always alternate driving. The only difference is what type of system you are working in. When I was in SF we would simply alternate because they only allow paramedics to work on 911 ambulances. In Vegas and Marin, it could be a medic/emt rig. That being the case, if it was an ALS call the medic would be in the back. I have had days that all the calls we ran were ALS so my partner never once was in the back, but we did alternate driving to the calls.

Good luck if you go on to the paramedic level, it's challenging and rewarding.

do you think I can still work as an EMT with a speeding ticket on my record? I am a much better driver than I was even a year ago. I don't want this to rpevent me from working. It's not like I have an OUI on record. What do you suggest? By the time I am a paramedic, my driving record won't be an issue I think.

I was an EMT in sonoma county. Before you can start working 911 calls (and I believe this is true in most areas) you have to work BLS first. Lucky for me there were several BLS companies who did CCT (nurse on board +2 EMT-B) and other responded to BLS calls. Most of the time it was transporting a patient (non ALS patient, ie no IV) from one hospital to the next. If it was a CCT, then the nurse takes over and handels the patient. AMR (American Medical Response) was the 911 provider in my area. They handeled all the 911 calls, and they would not let an EMT onto a paramedic rig unless they had some BLS experience.

Anyways, back to your driving. One of the companies I applied for, Verihealth, (but didn't work for) allowed you to sign on with a bad driving record because they only did BLS transports. This was especially true for someone under 21 because they weren't allowed to drive anyways (insurance reasons).

In Santa Rosa, it was very difficult to get into the ER as a tech. At least to get paid while you did it. It was possible to volenteer, and gain experience that way, but to get paid was a whole different issue. I was put on a waiting list with what seemed like every other EMT in the county and told I was goign to have to wait a year until I could interview. A YEAR!
Weak. I did many a shift as a volenteer, but I still nevre got the job. So best of luck in that regard. Maybe I was just going through the wrong people, I dont know...

Oh, and Paramedics don't make anywhere close to the pay of a nurse. A shift nurse can make double what a paramedic makes before the week is out. If you want the best of both worlds, you become a Flight Nurse. It's a tough field to break into too, but if that's your goal then nothing should stop you. There you get the real excitment and the big pay. Of corse, every call you respond to is a really bad one, the ones the paramedics on the field can't handel, and every patient you transport isn't goign to be in much better shape. But's it's exciting.

 

[911paramedic]

Depending on the violation, one may not make a difference. When I first applied in Marin I had two, and that was not acceptable. (It is a rule from their insurance carrier.)

As long as it's nothing major, most will take up to one violation.

BTW, medics usually work 4 on 3 off, so that is an additional benefit. When I was in Vegas I also had 6 weeks paid vacation, yes, you read that right...

 

[Superartus]

I've seen many hot latinas as nurses...i wouldn't mind being a male nurse

 

[Zenmervolt]

The $35/hour _starting_ salary? The bump to $41/hour after 6 months? The bump to $44/hour after a year? (My little sister graduates this spring as an RN, these numbers are from one of her offers, another place even offered her a signing bonus.)

I'd like that part of it.

I'd never want the stress though. And I don't like needles.

ZV

 

[Superartus]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
The $35/hour _starting_ salary? The bump to $41/hour after 6 months? The bump to $44/hour after a year? (My little sister graduates this spring as an RN, these numbers are from one of her offers, another place even offered her a signing bonus.)

I'd like that part of it.

I'd never want the stress though. And I don't like needles.

ZV

Yeah they make mass amount of money...i don't think it'll last that long...seems like that industry is getting flooded. Every girl i know that doesn't have a degree wants to be a RN. Not meaning that ALL RN's are not intelligent.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Superartus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
The $35/hour _starting_ salary? The bump to $41/hour after 6 months? The bump to $44/hour after a year? (My little sister graduates this spring as an RN, these numbers are from one of her offers, another place even offered her a signing bonus.)

I'd like that part of it.

I'd never want the stress though. And I don't like needles.

ZV

Yeah they make mass amount of money...i don't think it'll last that long...seems like that industry is getting flooded. Every girl i know that doesn't have a degree wants to be a RN. Not meaning that ALL RN's are not intelligent.

RN requires a 4 year degree. You're thinking about an LPN. (Commonly referred to by RN's as "Low-Paid Nurse".) LPN doesn't make nearly the amount of money that an RN can command. And, to be fair, my sister's going into pediatric oncology/hematology, so she's in one of the more rarified specialties.

ZV

 

[SsupernovaE]

Some of the best nurses that have worked for me has been male (and I've been through a lot of nurses).

 

[Paddington]

I'm a medical student and my father is a doctor so I know a little bit about the health system.

Few male nurses (or nursing assistants/PTs/CRNAs/etc.) are gay.

This is a good career that pays $50,000-$100,000 and for which there is huge demand and job security. With traditional male dominated industries like manufacturing and computers declining, and female industries like - well - any kind of services growing, many more men will have to go into jobs like nursing to make a good career for themselves. And there's nothing wrong with that.

It does help to have a few strong male nurses around to help move patients, make rowdy patients settle down, and do other things women have trouble with.

In-patient nursing I think is particularly well suited to guys, due to the long hours, night call, etc. that many women (who tend to have more lifestyle considerations) dislike.

EDIT: Right now my hospital is giving out $5,000 to anyone who *refers* a nurse for an interview that gets hired. $5,000! Just to the guy who makes a referral. That should give you a sense of the demand, and the money that's being tossed around. The health industry is huge (~$2 trillion a year) and makes things like the car industry, the computer industry, the financial services industry, etc. look puny by comparision. This *is* where a lot of the jobs are.

 

[ballmode]

Gaylord Focker?

 

[animalia]

well, I just had my first EMT-B class today, and my instructor was talking about a paramedic to RN program that only takes 1 year to complete. So that is interesting. They are also pushing for a paramedic to PA program that would also only last 1 year. These options would be great for when I am older and less energetic.

 

[Vich]

I just graduated nursing school (4 year BSN) and have started work in the ICU @ a top 10 hospital. Our unit has almost 20 male staff members, and only 1 of them is gay. If anything we don't like gay nurses because they promote a certain stereotype that many nurses despise. In my nursing program we also had about 10 males who were all straight.

Also the idea that we wipe tons of "poop" varies unit by unit. I work in a surgical ICU and hardly any of the patients other than the chronics ****** themselves. Imagine taking 10 immodiums, thats what anesthesia does to you, so we don't wipe to many asses

However, bedside nursing is not for me. I am putting in my year and going straight to Nurse Anesthesia. Much more respect and pay.

 

[GrantMeThePower]

Dude absolutly nothing wrong with a male nurse. My best friend is one and he is stoked...awesome wages, lots of responsibiltiy and works with a ton of hot chicks.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Superartus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
The $35/hour _starting_ salary? The bump to $41/hour after 6 months? The bump to $44/hour after a year? (My little sister graduates this spring as an RN, these numbers are from one of her offers, another place even offered her a signing bonus.)

I'd like that part of it.

I'd never want the stress though. And I don't like needles.

ZV

Yeah they make mass amount of money...i don't think it'll last that long...seems like that industry is getting flooded. Every girl i know that doesn't have a degree wants to be a RN. Not meaning that ALL RN's are not intelligent.

RN requires a 4 year degree. You're thinking about an LPN. (Commonly referred to by RN's as "Low-Paid Nurse".) LPN doesn't make nearly the amount of money that an RN can command. And, to be fair, my sister's going into pediatric oncology/hematology, so she's in one of the more rarified specialties.

ZV

Incorrect. RNs only require ADNs, not BSNs. Ands its really LVNs not LPNs. Most major hospitals will no longer hire LVNs because PCTs/CNAs can basically do anything an LVN can do, more so with specializations.

My mom is a nurse

CNA/PCT = 3 month program
LVN = 1 year program
RN = 2 year or 4 year program.

A BSN allows for specialization prior to entering the workforce, that is all. Once in the work force someone with and ADN can do on the job training to specialize.

An ADN can be a Charge Nurse, etc, but wont ever be able to be a Nurse Manager of an entire floor(its really an administrative job, not a nursing job but they are normally filled with people with BSNs).

BSN is better because you could eventually work you way to being a Nurse Practitioner where the REAL money is. A BSN also allows one to teach nursing.

You also have
RadTechs
PharmTechs
SonoTechs

All of which make more way than LVNs, but not near as much as RNs.

In terms of pay. Someone with an ADN will be making more than most 4 year graduates in Engineering etc. They will also likley have better benefits as well. The smartest thing anyone can do whos going into nursing is, get a BSN, find a job, have them pay for their MSN, and become a nurse practioner. The median pay for a Nurse Practitioners is about $20k more than the media pay for RNs

 

[Kaervak]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Well dont stop after you become an EMT-B we make fun of the EMT-B's in my ER cuz in Michigan at least they cant do anything but really take vitals and bring us a patient. They can't even start an IV.

No EMT-B's anywhere in the country can start an IV, that's Intermediate/Paramedic only. What we can and can't do is dependant upon our orders from medical control. Maybe the hospital you're at has really strict orders for basics that really limit them to what they can do.

 

[herbiehancock]

Originally posted by: Flyback
Years ago I worked in a hospital (as a security guard).

This is what I determined:

Co-workers: Too many fat, old cranky nurses. Some hotter, younger ones are there, but by far the older ones outnumber them. I mean really cranky--I've never seen women so rude an obnoxious before. Could it be the stress? perhaps, but it doesn't change that fact. I'd hate to work with them. Lots of doctors think they are gods, too. If you're a nurse and you do something that they slightly disagree with then prepare to be reamed. I've seen it happen multiple times.

Obviously, you never walked through an ICU or CCU or OR or other critcal care area......the cuties are all there. No one wants to work on a floor unit. Those units are considered Hell on Earth. But, then again, as a security guard, you wouldn't have had any reason to cruise through an ICU/CCU, would you?

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

++ to all the comments about working with hot women. At my hospital I know a lot of cute single nurses (and rad techs, nurse practioners, nurse anesthesists, PA's, etc..). Yes they can be bitches sometimes, so can anyone in any job.

If you like helping people, or like the atmosphere, by all means, be a nurse. If you are just looking to make good money, don't bother. You will work hard and see some neat/good/bad stuff. You have to want to do it. The same applies to Med school. The days of becoming a doctor to make tons of money is over.

Another benefit is that you get to work with a LOT of really neat diverse people. Other nurses, Resp therapists, PT's, techs, PA's, MD's. A lot have really interesting lives before and outside of the hospital. The jobs that these people had before going to work in a hospital is truly fascinating.

And as to the MD's busting on the nurses, most of the MD's I know wouldn't bust on them because of two things:

1. They need them to take care of the patient so they can operate (or see patients on clinic days or whatever)
2. The good nurses will give it back right back at them if the nurse knows he/she is right.

Yes, some MD's are dumb and try that, but smart ones know they NEED nurses so they can get their work done.

Just like in the Army, where the non-coms really "run" the unit, the nurses "run" the hospital.

 

[Slew Foot]

I'd be a nurse if I wasn't already an MD. You suckers are all my bitches

 

[NoShangriLa]

As others has said, male nurse doesn't make the person look gay. Many orderly are male, and male nurses is in high demand due to superior physical strength & some client prefer men instead of women.

<-- GF RN grad class was 107 nurses and only 3 were men. And, the guy nurses have beautiful women all over them.

 

[Kirby]

I've always heard that nurse aenethesists make a killing, so yeah, I could be a nurse.

 

[Rubycon]

Male nurses can milk anything with nipples. :laugh:

 

[KarmaPolice]

being a nurse doesnt make you gay.


I would never do it cause i hate blood and hospitals.