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Red Squirrel

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Flash sucks but you know what's fucked? HTML5 on Youtube is even worse. I'd been noticing that Youtube was just being a total dog, used CPU, didn't buffer for shit, would wig out half the time when skipping around the video. Did some searching and others were having similar problems and forcing it to use Flash actually improved it. It worked for me, it now buffers fine, uses less resources, and handles skipping around a lot better.

I don't know what Google/Youtube did that made HTML5 be so shitty on there. It used to be better than Flash but now it sucks.

I'd think it was just Firefox but Youtube seems just as bad when I use it on Chrome.

Firefox in general has been super slugish lately, I had to switch to Chromium and it made everything including Youtube faster. Interestingly it seems Youtube is using HTML5 now, in Firefox it was always using flash.
 
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Your beef is with Dash. YT Center can disable that.

That could be, I'll have to give that a try and see if it helps.

I added Youtube Center but can't get to any settings (click Options just loads a Youtube page for me that has nothing to do with any settings or anything).

Firefox in general has been super slugish lately, I had to switch to Chromium and it made everything including Youtube faster. Interestingly it seems Youtube is using HTML5 now, in Firefox it was always using flash.

Firefox has been having issues but even on Chrome Youtube sucks now for me (it is slightly better on Chrome than Firefox, well depending on how much add-ons you were using to tailor Youtube use).

Youtube has been defaulting to HTML5 since early this year (Firefox has supported this for a while, I actually forced it to use HTML5 on Youtube in Firefox sometime last year and it improved on Flash, but they've somehow managed to make Youtube using HTML5 worse than Flash).
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...5-video-ready-for-primetime-makes-it-default/

Firefox just did an update that blocks Flash by default.
 
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Aikouka

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I ended up switching to Chrome a few weeks ago from Firefox, which I had been using since version 3.xx. My biggest problem is that I'm a bit of a tab fiend, and Firefox doesn't work well when it's using a lot of memory. That problem gets exacerbated by the fact that browsers love to cache things like your history (previous webpages, not just the locations). Since Mozilla still hasn't broken Firefox into multiple processes (this has been on their radar for a long time), it gets really hokey when using 3GB+. The worst problem that I ran into is that YouTube videos become extremely choppy and even typing can be delayed as Firefox pegs an entire core. I switched to Pale Moon after that, and it was a bit better as it started acting up around 4-5GB+. I ended up switching to Waterfox as it has better 1Password integration, but it has the same problem (as expected). The problems actually got even worse as time went on, because when memory usage was high, browsing Amazon would cause Flash to just hang up for 10-15 seconds.

My only complaint about Chrome is that I've had some issues with playing YouTube videos. I'll say that it was actually worse than Firefox in this regard as videos regularly went out of sync and a pause-n-play usually wouldn't fix it. Although, the issue seems to have resolved itself as of late, so it's not too big of a deal. The only add-on that I'm really missing is DownThemAll!, which is nice if you want to download a random item from a page. Chrome has some kind of similar add-ons, but they're not nearly as good. The DownThemAll! author stated that Chrome has too many limitations to allow them to port the add-on.
 

ImpulsE69

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I wonder if the people who make flash use flash, or if they just stand back laughing at the rest of us poor suckers.
 

Eug

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Mar 11, 2000
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Had to enable Silverlight on the boss's machine a couple days ago. I had disabled it because it's an attack vector, and who hell uses Silverlight anyway? I'll tell you who; the fuckin' government. They'd fuck up a wet dream. Using proprietary software for citizen use should be illegal, and it should be grounds for firing using it for government internal use.
I use Silverlight several times a week... unfortunately. It's required for Firefox in Windows 7 and some versions of Mac OS X for Netflix.
 

MrPickins

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May 24, 2003
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If you're using flash, update it!

There are several recent zero-day exploits out there.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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Is it just me, or has Java gotten just as bad as Flash lately? It constantly needs security updates, tries to install bloatware when patches, and has increased the Java security settings to the point where it's almost impossible to run a Java applet in a browser.
 

PliotronX

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Is it just me, or has Java gotten just as bad as Flash lately? It constantly needs security updates, tries to install bloatware when patches, and has increased the Java security settings to the point where it's almost impossible to run a Java applet in a browser.
Yes, Java is pretty bad. Its inclusion of a whitelist feature though in 7u51 made it hugely more secure (but boy was it a pain to maintain for domains!). It's still the worst "auto" updater in history and cumbersome. These are both third party runtimes that the world would be better off without.
 

Ichinisan

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Oct 9, 2002
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I use Silverlight several times a week... unfortunately. It's required for Firefox in Windows 7 and some versions of Mac OS X for Netflix.

You still watch it from a browser? There are so...many...devices that can do it on your TV.
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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You still watch it from a browser? There are so...many...devices that can do it on your TV.


Our mother watches Amazon Prime Instant from a browser because the sound on her iMac is better than her TV, it's almost as large as her TV, and it's much closer than her TV. Just like Netflix, Amazon Prime Instant uses Silverlight on OSX.
 

Rakehellion

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Our mother watches Amazon Prime Instant from a browser because the sound on her iMac is better than her TV, it's almost as large as her TV, and it's much closer than her TV. Just like Netflix, Amazon Prime Instant uses Silverlight on OSX.

Netflix uses HTML5 on Mac.
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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I use Silverlight several times a week... unfortunately. It's required for Firefox in Windows 7 and some versions of Mac OS X for Netflix.

That was the only thing I was aware of, and Netflix doesn't need to be on a work machine. I don't think I've used Silverlight ever.
 

postmortemIA

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I use Silverlight several times a week... unfortunately. It's required for Firefox in Windows 7 and some versions of Mac OS X for Netflix.
Silverlight is no longer needed for netflix. They have moved to HTML5 video...Just Chrome browser and nothing else.
 

MongGrel

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Dec 3, 2013
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I still refuse to use Silverlight or Chrome myself these days.

Flash has stopped bothering me so much lately, but have been doing WIN X a bit now and 10240 seems to have solidified things a lot finally.

Have to see how it is in the future, even reverted to some software I liked in the past and is working great with X atm.
 
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