Man Creates DIY Handheld 38 MILLION Candlepower Flashlight

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Sorry, all your posts in this thread after the massive load of ownage you received to the face and neck, are null and void.

I'm not exactly sure how you can get owned when the guy doing the owning isn't even talking about the correct subject, but oh well. Perception > Reality. Or rather, perception owns reality.

 

[TheNewbie]

The links don't work!

Fail

 

[gamefreakgcb]

Originally posted by: TheNewbie
The links don't work!

Fail

Weird. They were working a while ago.

 

[maxster]

Originally posted by: ja1484

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: LS21

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: DrPizza
13 pounds. You've apparently never gone on a long backpacking trip, the kind that takes you far enough from the road where such a light could be handy once in a 1000 outtings. "I know, I'll skip the tent, the mat, the food, the water purifier, the toilet paper... I'll bring a flashlight instead!"

What kind of wimp are you? Honestly, it's only 13 lbs. If that's a serious amount of weight for you and it's just going to put your pack over the edge I'm really sorry for you.

I just bumped over to R.E.I. out of curiosity and was checking weights on things. A good backpacking tent is about 6 pounds. A solar powered water purifier is 10 ounces. Let's go really nuts and give you 20 lbs of food. And since you're eating a lot you'll probably need a fair amount of toilet paper. In the interest of making this completely ridiculous you get 5 lbs. of toilet paper. I'll give you 15 lbs. for misc things like your mat (wtf), first aid kit, pack itself etc.

With that load you're at roughly 47 lbs of pack weight. The flashlight would put you at 60 even and I'm sure we can all agree that this number is slightly off and would probably be more like 40, if that. That's really too much weight for you, huh? You know an Army soldiers load out is between 90-120 pounds. I wonder if you could even stand up with that much weight.

now you've convinced everyone that you've never gone camping. people would drop rainflys to save a few OZ. we have tent, bag, pad, AND light combos COMBINED that dont weigh as much as a 13lb flashlight.

You're right, I don't go camping. I live out in the country already and I prefer to have a shower in the morning.

You're proving my point, though. These "hikers" are pussies.

And you're a moron completely ignorant of the activity you're discussing. Just stop now.

Real wilderness travel is not a picnic, requires specialized gear (most of which you will not find at REI, mainly due to their very poor selection/affinity for high margin brands), and light is right.

Cut the "army loadout" horseshit. The terrain they cover doesn't hold a candle to the stuff that a serious trekking or climbing team would encounter. The Army doesn't march platoons over mountain ranges, it airlifts them.

If you're in 3rd class or more difficult terrain, especially grade III or higher (and no, 3rd class and grade III are not the same), what you pack, and what it weighs, begins to seriously affect your ability to respond to and/or survive an emergency. When we get to 4th class or harder terrain, loadouts heavier than 20lbs cease to be a realistic in any sense of the word. When we get to 5th or 6th class terrain, people start talking about load differences in grams.

I'm thrilled you live in the sticks and like to pretend you know something about wilderness self-sufficiency. Unfortunately, it's plainly clear from your comments that that's all you're doing - pretending. I *love* getting guide jobs that include guys like you....cocky attitude, most of the time semi-athletic and can put up a good show for their dick-size contest buddies on the bench press...and watching you learn humility over the course of a few weeks. Never fails to bring a smile to my face.

So you're saying for 5th or 6th class people don't bring along a half oz of MJ because that would be too heavy?

 

[Cold Steel]

Originally posted by: ja1484
It creates a small amount of plasma between two metal tips. Essentially, he has placed a small star in a carrying case.

Basically correct, except for the heat. Plasmas don't necessarily create a lot of heat. I am very familiar with Hg vapor arc lamps in my job. Also very familiar with plasma systems. Hg vapor arc lamps are used to expose photo resist and though they do put out a little heat, the substrate being exposed, at a distance of about 10 inches from the lamp, never gets above about 30 degrees C no matter how long the exposure to the lamp. They also put out mostly ultra violet, not much beyond about 450 nanometes in wavelength.

Plasma can be created by exciting gases with radio frequency wavelengths. Doesn't take more than about 50 watts to generate a plasma, if your plasma density is high enough. Not much heat there with only 50 watts of power.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: TheNewbie
The links don't work!

Fail

No shit Sherlock, PopSci.com is completely down.

 

[Manuwell]

I cannot see anything clearly at a 0.5 miles distance... even with full daylight. I don't understand the use of such a device.

 

[RaistlinZ]

Remember when you were a kid and you would fry ants using a magnifying glass with sunlight? Imagine using a huge magnifying glass in conjunction with this flashlight. Oh the ownage! You would probably be able to pierce through solid wall.

 

[ja1484]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Awesome, allow me to retort.

My turn! Drop your pants winky! Daddy brought his belt this time!

1. I never said I know a damn thing about wilderness survival. In fact, if you'd actually bothered to read my post you'd see I clearly stated that I don't go camping. Asking you to read from comprehension instead of reading to see what you can nitpick might have been expecting a bit much, though. What I said was that I live out in the country. I said this because I'd imagine most hikers are people from the city who want to go out to the forest for a weekend and pretend they're Davy Crockett or whatever the fuck they do out there.

The first part of this point is a straw man - you can read the definition here, but since actually educating yourself on things before discussing them doesn't seem to be your bag, I'll quote it too:

A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw man argument" is to create a position that is easy to refute and attribute that position to the opponent. Often, the straw man is set up to deliberately overstate the opponent's position. A straw man argument can be a successful rhetorical technique (that is, it may succeed in persuading people) but it is in fact a misleading fallacy, because the opponent's actual argument has not been refuted.

So, for starters, get off this "you didn't read my post!" shit.

More to the point, your interpretation of what a "hiker" is doesn't mean a fucking thing. The fact that your interpretation is wrong does. Just because you intended word usage in an incorrect context does not in any way ameliorate your ignorance. You said hiking, you never qualified an extent, except apparently in your mind, after the fact, in a vain hope of maintaining some kind of viability in your argument.

2. This point is important so pay attention. What started this all was talk about taking this flashlight hiking. Got it? The operative word here is hiking. That being said, your brief description of what are acceptable load weights for each class was very impressive. I, as well as everyone else here, is impressed with your knowledge and your e-penis is now huge. However... after a quick search of the terms you mentioned it's apparent that terrain above class 3 is basically climbing. Not hiking, climbing. Slight bit of difference, don't you think? So, while that was all truly impressive, it really has no bearing on what's being talked about there.

Wrong again. I'm glad you were able to google up the standard class rating system. It'll save me some explanation time.

A cross country hike, especially in more remote locations, can involve tackling terrain that is unmapped, or has not been so for decades, which allows a lot of changes. I've guided on plenty of trips like this where the guide team suddenly has to route find in an inaccurately or poorly charted location, and sometimes the only feasible way down or up involves roped safety systems and terrain in the upper echelon of the class system.

This is why pre-trip, if there's any chance of this kind of situation occurring, clients are obligated to take a short lesson on descending and ascending fixed ropes. The guide team will do the truly hairy work, because we have that expertise, but we can't just stop for a few hours in the field to train clients how to manage descent over a 200ft. cliff.

The confusion you seem to be having is that a hike is only a short walk in the woods. Ever heard of hiking the Appalachian Trail, you numbskull?

Next time when you read a post, before you get your panties all in a twist make sure you actually understand what's being talked about.

The best part about this being you actually think YOU know what's being discussed, when you're clearly the one in error.

I said I'd have no problem taking an extra 13 lbs hiking and that anyone who thought it was an excessive amount of weight for hiking is a little weak. Obviously, if you're doing actual climbing then excess weight is a huge factor. You'll get no argument from me there.

Well, then you're showing uncharacteristic reason on the second point and a lack of respect for context and general ignorance of the subject on the first. Hiking to YOU may mean a stroll through the woods, but that's the typical mindset of suburbanite yuppie wimps...the same faction I believe you were attempting to belittle with your posts earlier. Maybe you should try to be friends with those folks - you certainly seem to think alike.

Cliff Notes (since you don't seem to like to read)

1. You didn't actually comprehend what was being discussed and got your panties in a bunch when there was really no reason.
2. You made a big post that has almost zero relevance to what was being discussed.
3. You're an idiot.

Cliff Notes (Since you apparently don't even know what the words you're using mean):

1) You weren't even discussing what you *thought* you were discussing due to your high level ignorance of the activity and its associated terms.

2) Because of #1, you wouldn't know what is relevant to this discussion or not, and mistakenly assumed I was off topic when in fact I work in the field and know more about hiking/wilderness travel/climbing/whatever you want to talk about than you will ever know about anything.

3) Your attempt to save face didn't work. Please insert another quarter and try again.

 

[ja1484]

Originally posted by: maxster

So you're saying for 5th or 6th class people don't bring along a half oz of MJ because that would be too heavy?

I will confess, many of them do. Some even consider it required equipment.

 

[ja1484]

Originally posted by: Manuwell
I cannot see anything clearly at a 0.5 miles distance... even with full daylight. I don't understand the use of such a device.

I'm pretty sure we're dealing with a "because he could" situation here.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: ja1484

Originally posted by: Shadowknight
It'd be very useful for signaling for help if you were lost at sea or while hiking in the mountains, I suppose.

I would love for you to show me the hiker that totes a 54-battery light along with them on the trail, just in case.

This thing uses a Mercury Arc bulb guys. It creates a small amount of plasma between two metal tips. Essentially, he has placed a small star in a carrying case.

I'd do it. It's only 13 lbs.

13 pounds. You've apparently never gone on a long backpacking trip, the kind that takes you far enough from the road where such a light could be handy once in a 1000 outtings. "I know, I'll skip the tent, the mat, the food, the water purifier, the toilet paper... I'll bring a flashlight instead!"

What kind of wimp are you? Honestly, it's only 13 lbs. If that's a serious amount of weight for you and it's just going to put your pack over the edge I'm really sorry for you.

I just bumped over to R.E.I. out of curiosity and was checking weights on things. A good backpacking tent is about 6 pounds. A solar powered water purifier is 10 ounces. Let's go really nuts and give you 20 lbs of food. And since you're eating a lot you'll probably need a fair amount of toilet paper. In the interest of making this completely ridiculous you get 5 lbs. of toilet paper. I'll give you 15 lbs. for misc things like your mat (wtf), first aid kit, pack itself etc.

With that load you're at roughly 47 lbs of pack weight. The flashlight would put you at 60 even and I'm sure we can all agree that this number is slightly off and would probably be more like 40, if that. That's really too much weight for you, huh? You know an Army soldiers load out is between 90-120 pounds. I wonder if you could even stand up with that much weight.

who cares what army soldiers carry? the point of backpacking is to have fun, not carry everything you need to kill people. you'd have to be a complete dumb fucking idiot to carry a 13 pound flashlight when one that weighs 6 ounces will get the job done.

typical jock response. "being smart is being a pussy." that from someone who doesn't want to go backpacking because he can't take a shower. ok, tough guy, we really take you seriously.

edit: finished reading thread. my post was unnecessary as ownage was already dealt with fury.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Want.

OMG it cost him 2k to build!?!?! EFF THAT

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: ja1484

Originally posted by: Shadowknight
It'd be very useful for signaling for help if you were lost at sea or while hiking in the mountains, I suppose.

I would love for you to show me the hiker that totes a 54-battery light along with them on the trail, just in case.

This thing uses a Mercury Arc bulb guys. It creates a small amount of plasma between two metal tips. Essentially, he has placed a small star in a carrying case.

I'd do it. It's only 13 lbs.

13 pounds. You've apparently never gone on a long backpacking trip, the kind that takes you far enough from the road where such a light could be handy once in a 1000 outtings. "I know, I'll skip the tent, the mat, the food, the water purifier, the toilet paper... I'll bring a flashlight instead!"

What kind of wimp are you? Honestly, it's only 13 lbs. If that's a serious amount of weight for you and it's just going to put your pack over the edge I'm really sorry for you.

I just bumped over to R.E.I. out of curiosity and was checking weights on things. A good backpacking tent is about 6 pounds. A solar powered water purifier is 10 ounces. Let's go really nuts and give you 20 lbs of food. And since you're eating a lot you'll probably need a fair amount of toilet paper. In the interest of making this completely ridiculous you get 5 lbs. of toilet paper. I'll give you 15 lbs. for misc things like your mat (wtf), first aid kit, pack itself etc.

With that load you're at roughly 47 lbs of pack weight. The flashlight would put you at 60 even and I'm sure we can all agree that this number is slightly off and would probably be more like 40, if that. That's really too much weight for you, huh? You know an Army soldiers load out is between 90-120 pounds. I wonder if you could even stand up with that much weight.

who cares what army soldiers carry? the point of backpacking is to have fun, not carry everything you need to kill people. you'd have to be a complete dumb fucking idiot to carry a 13 pound flashlight when one that weighs 6 ounces will get the job done.

typical jock response. "being smart is being a pussy." that from someone who doesn't want to go backpacking because he can't take a shower. ok, tough guy, we really take you seriously.

edit: finished reading thread. my post was unnecessary as ownage was already dealt with fury.

Well, if you bring the flashlight, you wont have to bring any firestarting materials. Just point it at dead leaves, and you have fire. You also wouldnlt need water purifiers. Filter the water through as sock, and boil the water using the flashlight. Use an iodine pill if you want

You could also hunt and cook stuff using the flashlight too, so no need to food.

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: ja1484

Originally posted by: Shadowknight
It'd be very useful for signaling for help if you were lost at sea or while hiking in the mountains, I suppose.

I would love for you to show me the hiker that totes a 54-battery light along with them on the trail, just in case.

This thing uses a Mercury Arc bulb guys. It creates a small amount of plasma between two metal tips. Essentially, he has placed a small star in a carrying case.

I'd do it. It's only 13 lbs.

13 pounds. You've apparently never gone on a long backpacking trip, the kind that takes you far enough from the road where such a light could be handy once in a 1000 outtings. "I know, I'll skip the tent, the mat, the food, the water purifier, the toilet paper... I'll bring a flashlight instead!"

What kind of wimp are you? Honestly, it's only 13 lbs. If that's a serious amount of weight for you and it's just going to put your pack over the edge I'm really sorry for you.

I just bumped over to R.E.I. out of curiosity and was checking weights on things. A good backpacking tent is about 6 pounds. A solar powered water purifier is 10 ounces. Let's go really nuts and give you 20 lbs of food. And since you're eating a lot you'll probably need a fair amount of toilet paper. In the interest of making this completely ridiculous you get 5 lbs. of toilet paper. I'll give you 15 lbs. for misc things like your mat (wtf), first aid kit, pack itself etc.

With that load you're at roughly 47 lbs of pack weight. The flashlight would put you at 60 even and I'm sure we can all agree that this number is slightly off and would probably be more like 40, if that. That's really too much weight for you, huh? You know an Army soldiers load out is between 90-120 pounds. I wonder if you could even stand up with that much weight.

who cares what army soldiers carry? the point of backpacking is to have fun, not carry everything you need to kill people. you'd have to be a complete dumb fucking idiot to carry a 13 pound flashlight when one that weighs 6 ounces will get the job done.

typical jock response. "being smart is being a pussy." that from someone who doesn't want to go backpacking because he can't take a shower. ok, tough guy, we really take you seriously.

edit: finished reading thread. my post was unnecessary as ownage was already dealt with fury.

Well, if you bring the flashlight, you wont have to bring any firestarting materials. Just point it at dead leaves, and you have fire. You also wouldnlt need water purifiers. Filter the water through as sock, and boil the water using the flashlight. Use an iodine pill if you want

You could also hunt and cook stuff using the flashlight too, so no need to food.

lol

 

[gsethi]

so who owned who ? someone page M4H for ownage of the year 2008 thread material

 

[JTsyo]

Originally posted by: Zaitsev
Want.

OMG it cost him 2k to build!?!?! EFF THAT

Saw something like this on slashdot that was only $300.

4100 Lumen Flashlight

So how does 4100 Lumen compare to 58 million candles?

 

[bonkers325]

bat signal?