If you can " Scream " or talk you can breath.
What a bunch of trash those cops are. If this is really true, that the man killed by the police was truly innocent in all of this, the family should get the killer's head on a freakin' platter. Obviously that's a metaphor, but the cop in this case should be tried for murder and go away for life. Guy was basically begging for his life. Im guessing the cop was just dying to try out the new choke hold he learned by watching Youtube.
From the article I read, it looks like the cops thought he was selling tax free cigarettes. They accused him of such, and then attempted to arrest him without cause. The cops cannot arrest you without cause, so him resisting would be justified I assume. Its not like he hit a cop, he just said no.
Should be charged with manslaughter, all of them. If you are a cop, you are supposed to be more trained than others in these types of things, including when to use your weapon.
The guy wasn't violent to being with! He was trying to talk calmly with the police and explain what happened
From reviewing the video, it looks like the Police Dept.'s best defense at the moment is that it was an accidental death due in most part to the victim's refusal to cooperate and the victim's health condition at that time.
Those cops were probably threatened by his size. Being 6'9", I can understand how people are threatened just by existing. Body language is also important. I watched the video on mute and noticed that he resisted being handcuffed. It doesn't matter if you are completely innocent, never fight the cuffs is rule #1. The cops wanted to feel safer with his hands bound. Their fear resulted in a completely unfounded death.
"following proper established procedure" Yes. To protect and serve... themselves.
You have some serious issues, I am afraid professional counseling will not be able to help you....If you can " Scream " or talk you can breath.
Exactly. Cops do not know what a resisting person is capable of; likely they have been in terrible situations before that got out of hand when they did just sit and try and talk. Cops ARE NOT negotiators. If this guy would have LISTENED and followed orders he would still be alive today.
And how exactly does this serve the cops in this case??? Do you think they aren't smart enough to know there are smart phones everywhere? It is more likely they were doing their job the best they were trained how than for some conspiracy that they were doing it for their own gain in front of a crowd of people recording everything.
That's bullshit - if the guy resists arrest he is automatically a threat - as with anyone - the cops don't know you or what you are capable of - nor do you know why the cops were there to pick him up or what information they had to go on.
I'm really sick of the media portraying everyone who keeps resisting orders as people to feel sorry for. If this guy would have done as he was told he would be alive today PERIOD.
Are you a paid shill for the Police??? God I love your outlook...so to sum it up -- their training led them to kill him?? That about sums it up......
Given that this man died as a result of the police's actions I don't see how anyone can claim that he isn't a victim.
No, what killed him was the actions of the guy himself; he got himself killed - you can't fix stupid. Like I already said... he could have peacefully surrendered, gone down to the station and cleared everything up he wanted - COPS ARE NOT NEGOTIATORS to negotiate with and debate with and fight arrest on when they say they are taking you to jail... that is not within the scope of their job description and nor should it be.
No, what killed him was the actions of the guy himself; he got himself killed - you can't fix stupid. Like I already said... he could have peacefully surrendered, gone down to the station and cleared everything up he wanted - COPS ARE NOT NEGOTIATORS to negotiate with and debate with and fight arrest on when they say they are taking you to jail... that is not within the scope of their job description and nor should it be.
I'm sure anytime a cop asks to search you, you'll happily comply too.
You sound like an incredibly stupid person.
They weren't asking to SEARCH the guy; they told him point blank - YOU ARE UNDER ARREST... what does he do - says NO - ... what should he have done; given into the arrest - gone down to the station - fought the charges, got paid for any time spent in jail if he were innocent - gone about it the right way on his part.
And yes; if they thought I had a weapon/drugs on me I would let them search me as EVERYONE DOES AT AIRPORTS... really!. If i didn't think they had cause to search me - I WOULD LET THEM SEARCH ME - and then I would file a complaint of sexual harassment at their office - which they take VERY seriously.
Lol!!! I can see it now. "Sir, did you give them consent to search you?" "Yes" "Case closed."
This isn't how it would work actually - you have little knowledge of how things against law enforcers are actually dealt with.
Why don't you fill us in since you're implying you know exactly what happens?
<--- a Police shill....gotta love you....the Police obviously screwed the pooch regardless of what this individual did.....the Police using their training -- and professionalism - over reacted and killed the man!!No, what killed him was the actions of the guy himself; he got himself killed - you can't fix stupid.
Like I already said... he could have peacefully surrendered, gone down to the station and cleared everything up he wanted - did he, NO, most law abiding innocent victim people would have - COPS ARE NOT NEGOTIATORS to negotiate with and debate with and fight arrest on when they say they are taking you to jail... that is not within the scope of their job description and nor should it be.
You sound like an incredibly stupid person.
And as you said yourself, you can't fix stupid.
So I'm just going to laugh at you and your stupid collection of brain cells that somehow manages to drag you from one day to the next.
Did I get it correct??
I never said I know EXACTLY what happens - but I know mostly what happens and definitely more than you do.
With sexual harassment charges - it would be brought to court in front of a jury like anything else if you wanted. The cop will be put on leave with no pay. It would go to his supervisors, likely the lieutenant or up depending on how adamant you were. The cop would get a mark on his record - which isn't a good thing - or suspended - but seriously, for a grazing of the boobs - what more do you want? Less happens to an executive of an office. There isn't many cops that will search you for sexual reasons anyway and it is policy to have a girl pull out her bra than to pat over it. They don't go into the crotch area at all and if you are deemed to be going to jail they inform you that you should admit to anything because it becomes a felony if you go into the jail with it. It is more than what happens to security guards at the airport who aren't even trained law enforcement agents and more want to grope you and look at you naked than any law enforcement cares. You act like cops are all perverts when they request to search you - in which - they are not... personal body searches are usually before you go to jail - mostly they are looking for knives and guns - they could care less if you have drugs on you when you go into jail - the jailors will find that and you will get your ass handed to you on charges.
Lol... who said anything about sexual harrassment charges??? Are you in your own little world? Do you understand that consenting to a police search is giving up your right?
still have to pay a bondsman, money you will never get back..... think of people working at the lowest rungs of society, missing a day of work because your in jail (even if you are innocent) most of the time will get you fired from a job like that...
the justice system ruins family left and right..
in some small towns it takes days to even see the judge for the arraignment hearing, you could be sitting in jail, for two day, no way to contact anyone on the outside (if you've ever been to jail you'd know there are phones, but they are collect calls only, and last time i was there (4 or 5 years ago) just to answer the phone it costs 8 bucks and some change.. and the phones can only call lan lines,... it's terrible.
people get arrested for minor shit these days and lose everything.
You asked what I would do - that's what I would do if a cop just searched me with no PC. I wouldn't attack him, nor resist and cause anyone's life to be in danger. I understand the whole nation has given up this right at airports so I don't see what your concern with giving consent on a police search is for - unless you have something always on you - that's a BS statement -- if you have nothing to hide, then you won`t mind giving up your rights....sad and pathetic....little man....
and it has gone completely off the topic. Also, after you are under arrest (Which is when most personal body searches are done - unless we are talking about car searches) then I don't believe "refusal to be searched" is within your rights as they state them.
And saying I don't know exactly what happens doesn't mean I know jack shit - what I think is you have a problem that I side with cops and are yourself a cop hater probably for unjustifiable reasons - that paragraph I wrote on sexual harassment IS basically what happens - ask anyone that has first hand knowledge.
So you'd file sexual harassment charges against a cop for searching you. Mind you, this is AFTER you consented to the search.You asked what I would do - that's what I would do if a cop just searched me with no PC.
You want innocent people to lay down for cops. Its one thing if a cop places you under arrest and then searches you. Its another if you voluntarily consent to a search.I wouldn't attack him, nor resist and cause anyone's life to be in danger. I understand the whole nation has given up this right at airports so I don't see what your concern with giving consent on a police search is for - unless you have something always on you - and it has gone completely off the topic. Also, after you are under arrest (Which is when most personal body searches are done - unless we are talking about car searches) then I don't believe "refusal to be searched" is within your rights as they state them.
Hmmm, let me ask all my relatives who are cops.And saying I don't know exactly what happens doesn't mean I know jack shit - what I think is you have a problem that I side with cops and are yourself a cop hater probably for unjustifiable reasons - that paragraph I wrote on sexual harassment IS basically what happens - ask anyone that has first hand knowledge.