man dies after NYPD cop puts him in chokehold

[BoberFett]

What came first: the reduction or the suction?

Give me a sec to wipe the Mt Dew off my screen...

 

[BoberFett]

Or the owner of the bar I worked at called in a favor.

So now you're just admitting that cops are crooked. Well done.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by Londo_Jowo
Or the owner of the bar I worked at called in a favor.

So now you're just admitting that cops are crooked. Well done.

He admits a lot on here.

I wouldn't be surprised if Feds like that Merge guy are investigating some of the folks in here.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by Londo_Jowo
I had a DUI reduced to reckless driving. $200 fine plus $150 court costs. One month later paid $100 and 6 hours on a Saturday to attend a defensive driving course that took away the points from the reckless driving.

Now it all makes sense, that's why you get on your knees for cops.

Or maybe it got reduced BECAUSE you get on your knees for cops...

:hmm:

Wow, and this is the guy that stalks me with such shit on here I had to put him on my ignore list.

Talk about the ultimate Hypocrite.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So now you're just admitting that cops are crooked. Well done.

All the cop did was recommend that the charges be reduced, the judge was the one that agreed with the recommendation. It didn't hurt that I was on active duty at the time and had previously assist the police with catching some people that were breaking into patrons cars in the bar parking lot 3 months prior to being stopped at a checkpoint.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Originally Posted by Londo_Jowo
I had a DUI reduced to reckless driving. $200 fine plus $150 court costs. One month later paid $100 and 6 hours on a Saturday to attend a defensive driving course that took away the points from the reckless driving.



Wow, and this is the guy that stalks me with such shit on here I had to put him on my ignore list.

Talk about the ultimate Hypocrite.

It's good to know you read every one.

 

[bradley]

Talk about directly endangering citizens vs. selling a few loose cigarettes. I certainly wouldn't stop an officer from choking-out a DUIer. I wouldn't even bother filming the altercation with a smart phone.

 

[DCal430]

Sick how basically a group of KKK, oops I mean nearly all white jurors have voted it legal to basically murder young black men.

Sick, really sick.

 

[BoberFett]

Sick how basically a group of KKK, oops I mean nearly all white jurors have voted it legal to basically murder young black men.

Sick, really sick.

Shut up you half wit. Morons like you add nothing to any conversation.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Shut up you half wit. Morons like you add nothing to any conversation.

It was a stupid comment but, other than insults, you've added...?

 

[Bitek]

Talk about directly endangering citizens vs. selling a few loose cigarettes. I certainly wouldn't stop an officer from choking-out a DUIer. I wouldn't even bother filming the altercation with a smart phone.

Seriously. How many innocent people and children have been killed by drunken assholes behind the wheel?

Yet the number I find killed by not taxing loose cigarettes keeps coming up as zero.

Should we move on to commenting how shitty his parents were in raising such a publicly dangerous and defective person?

 

[Bitek]

It was a stupid comment but, other than insults, you've added...?

Serve and volley

 

[bradley]

Seriously. How many innocent people and children have been killed by drunken assholes behind the wheel?

Yet the number I find killed by not taxing loose cigarettes keeps coming up as zero.

Should we move on to commenting how shitty his parents were in raising such a publicly dangerous and defective person?

Glad we both agree?

 

[shortylickens]

Guess what scumbags? That fucker who KILLED people when driving drunk gets to go to rehab while this guy who was selling a couple of cigarettes gets killed. How the fuck do you justify that.

Are you talking about the Affluenza kid?

 

[HomerJS]

So Eric Garner was killed because of an accusation he was selling untaxed cigarettes. There was no proof in this incident, there was probable cause for arrest. BTW - past actions are not probable cause for current actions.

Eric Garner was arrested and killed for an alleged financial crime in NYC, meanwhile in a different part of the same city one of the biggest financial crimes which cost the country trillions, no arrests.

So the cops say they were right for arresting Garner, what would happen if the police showed up at the doors of JP Morgan to arrest the CEO? Seems to me the probable cause is equal.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Maybe you should ask those questions of the on scene supervisor (Sergeant) who ordered the arrest.

I believe her name Kizzy Adoni and she's an African American

 

[himkhan]

What would it matter if she was green with red spots.

 

[TechBoyJK]

So Eric Garner was killed because of an accusation he was selling untaxed cigarettes. There was no proof in this incident, there was probable cause for arrest. BTW - past actions are not probable cause for current actions.

Eric Garner was arrested and killed for an alleged financial crime in NYC, meanwhile in a different part of the same city one of the biggest financial crimes which cost the country trillions, no arrests.

So the cops say they were right for arresting Garner, what would happen if the police showed up at the doors of JP Morgan to arrest the CEO? Seems to me the probable cause is equal.

Would the CEO resist arrest? Especially if he had a heart problem of some kind? If he did reist arrest, and had a heart attack, wouldn't that sort of be his own fault? If you can't handle the ride, don't buy the ticket. aka if you can't handle the struggle with a cop, then don't cause a struggle.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

It removes racial bias as the basis for the decision to arrest the person.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm still trying to figure out why the prosecutor didn't ask the grand jury to include any lesser offenses. Prosecutors basically always ask to include lesser offenses. What would be the reason not to?

In this case the conduct of the prosecutor has a pretty bad stink around it. I've seen calls in a number of places to appoint an independent prosecutor when it comes to police misconduct cases to eliminate conflicts of interest like this.

 

[smackababy]

I'm still trying to figure out why the prosecutor didn't ask the grand jury to include any lesser offenses. Prosecutors basically always ask to include lesser offenses. What would be the reason not to?

In this case the conduct of the prosecutor has a pretty bad stink around it. I've seen calls in a number of places to appoint an independent prosecutor when it comes to police misconduct cases to eliminate conflicts of interest like this.

It may not have been a prosecutor's decision. The judge could have dismissed lesser charges and only allowed them to proceed with the ones they did. I don't know if that is the case, but it might have been. They also might have been hoping, if an indictment was returned, to plead the guy down to a lesser charge rather than have a lengthy trial.

 

[JockoJohnson]

So Eric Garner was killed because of an accusation he was selling untaxed cigarettes. There was no proof in this incident, there was probable cause for arrest. BTW - past actions are not probable cause for current actions.

Eric Garner was arrested and killed for an alleged financial crime in NYC, meanwhile in a different part of the same city one of the biggest financial crimes which cost the country trillions, no arrests.

So the cops say they were right for arresting Garner, what would happen if the police showed up at the doors of JP Morgan to arrest the CEO? Seems to me the probable cause is equal.

Agreed. It is despicable that he was harassed this time. He was not selling cigarettes this time. And I am all for the mayor pushing for the police force to go after those on Wall Street. Much bigger crimes were committed by them then this guy. I still can't even stand the fact that they made a "task force" to go after people peddling loose cigarettes.

 

[fskimospy]

It may not have been a prosecutor's decision. The judge could have dismissed lesser charges and only allowed them to proceed with the ones they did. I don't know if that is the case, but it might have been. They also might have been hoping, if an indictment was returned, to plead the guy down to a lesser charge rather than have a lengthy trial.

There's no judge for a grand jury.

 

[smackababy]

There's no judge for a grand jury.

I thought a judge presided over it, but I guess not. Perhaps, the lesser charges weren't felonies?

 

[fskimospy]

I thought a judge presided over it, but I guess not. Perhaps, the lesser charges weren't felonies?

They could have indicted on felony reckless endangerment and grand juries can also return misdemeanor indictments if they want, it's just that you don't put together a grand jury for the express purpose of only misdemeanors.

The prosecutor could have absolutely presented those lesser offenses if he wanted to. He chose not to. It's hard to think of any answer as to why not.