man dies after NYPD cop puts him in chokehold

[HumblePie]

Looks like I was right again on this case. This is the case that should have been getting bigger media headlines than the bullshit in Ferguson.

 

[realibrad]

Looks like I was right again on this case. This is the case that should have been getting bigger media headlines than the bullshit in Ferguson.

Totally agree. This to me has much more meat on it, than Ferguson.

 

[lotus503]

Looks like I was right again on this case. This is the case that should have been getting bigger media headlines than the bullshit in Ferguson.

Totally agree, this is an example of police misconduct, Ferguson not so much.

 

[smackababy]

I hope the Grand Jury returns an indictment, but I feel it won't stick in a trial. They played the video of the incident again when I was at lunch and the guy was actively resisting arrest. Due to this size, relative to the officer's, the take down might have not been textbook, but a take down was warranted. It wasn't done in malice. I think the officer will walk, but the police department will lose a civil suit.

 

[HomerJS]

Grand jury does not indict.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-eric-garner-chokehold-death-not-indicted-article-1.2031841

Well another sample of our criminal justice system that treats everyone equally.

I guess a video and the ME in New York stating this was a homicide isn't enough

 

[Thebobo]

Another rage filled evening. I would be out too.

 

[smackababy]

Grand jury does not indict.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-eric-garner-chokehold-death-not-indicted-article-1.2031841

Well another sample of our criminal justice system that treats everyone equally.

I guess a video and the ME in New York stating this was a homicide isn't enough

The video show Garner actively resist arrest and being taken down by officers. The ME stating it was a homicide means it was caused by another person. This death was an accident, but since ALL police killings are ruled homicides (but, however, not always murders), this was stated to be a homicide.

 

[dmcowen674]

Grand jury does not indict.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-eric-garner-chokehold-death-not-indicted-article-1.2031841

Well another sample of our criminal justice system that treats everyone equally.

I guess a video and the ME in New York stating this was a homicide isn't enough

Really looking like the Militarized Police forces are looking forward to a war with the citizenry.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

What the fuck... seriously, what injustice does a cop need to do to be indicted?
This is a travesty of justice, much worse than Ferguson, IMO.

 

[StandsAboveYou]

I'm shocked. The Brown decision was right. This one is not. Let me clear out of the way for the rush of "Obesity was the real killer here" Storm Troopers.

 

[HomerJS]

The video show Garner actively resist arrest and being taken down by officers. The ME stating it was a homicide means it was caused by another person. This death was an accident, but since ALL police killings are ruled homicides (but, however, not always murders), this was stated to be a homicide.

If someone has their arm around a windpipe and that person says they can't breath, it was no accident. If cops attempted to subdue and he fell, hit his head and dies, that would be an accident.

Hmm, killing someone over selling a cigarette. Guess there was no other way to handle this.

Also there was a paramedic on the scene who did not treat him

 

[Blanky]

See THIS case is interesting. I have no sympathy for brown but this really seemed to me from the getgo to be police negligence. Even if the GJ was correct to not indict I completely get why people would get pissed over this.

 

[HumblePie]

Now this is a bullshit travesty of justice. There was sufficient probable cause to pursue a criminal trial in this case unlike the Ferguson one. The officers had no probable cause for the initial detention and so everything that follows is pure BS. Ugh. THIS is the case people should be protesting over and GJ decision that should be scrutinized.

I just don't get it at all.

 

[highland145]

Did he die from the choking itself or something like a heart attack because of the incident? Haven't followed this one.

Also there was a paramedic on the scene who did not treat him

What was his excuse?

 

[smackababy]

If someone has their arm around a windpipe and that person says they can't breath, it was no accident. If cops attempted to subdue and he fell, hit his head and dies, that would be an accident.

Hmm, killing someone over selling a cigarette. Guess there was no other way to handle this.

Also there was a paramedic on the scene who did not treat him

So, him saying "I can't breathe" while actively resisting being subdued is reason to just go "welp, let him go guys!". No. It is unfortunate what happened, however, police have to subdue the suspect before rendering medical attention or adhering to pleas of anything. This death was accidental. The cop didn't intend to crush his windpipe or do anything other than subdue the suspect safely.

Do you believe that if suspect is resisting arrest and tells a cop "don't tase me, I have a heart condition", but continues to resist, is tased, and dies is an accident?

Cops, at least military cops, are specifically trained to wait until after they have subdued the suspects before rendering aid. This is especially true when you pepper spray a suspect. They will often cry they can't breathe, when in reality, they are simply panicking.

Did he die from the choking itself or something like a heart attack because of the incident? Haven't followed this one.


What was his excuse?

The take down compressing the neck was the primary cause of death, but additional factors included his obesity and heart problems. The EMTs who did not render aid were suspended without pay, but I don't know for how long and if anything else came of it.

 

[HomerJS]

Did he die from the choking itself or something like a heart attack because of the incident? Haven't followed this one.


What was his excuse?

If you throw someone off a 500' cliff do they die from the throw or the sudden stop??

 

[xBiffx]

I think this simply boils down to the question of criminality. The GJ is trying to determine criminal actions.

Now the civil case here, there's some real traction.

 

[ivwshane]

Move along folks nothing to see here, just another black thug who got what they deserved. The use of the outlawed choke hold was totally warranted in this case! It's thugs like this who refuse to pay taxes that need to go away!

Good kill!


No need to get upset about this, yet another example of police brutality, we will just wait for the "right" innocent man to be put up on a cross before the movement for change begins!

Justice was served, another idictment that turned out just like all the other 99% of all other indictments that all other citizens are privy to.

/s

I await for the apologists to chime in.

 

[highland145]

If you throw someone off a 500' cliff do they die from the throw or the sudden stop??

They obviously died because their choice in companions.

 

[Blanky]

So, him saying "I can't breathe" while actively resisting being subdued is reason to just go "welp, let him go guys!". No. It is unfortunate what happened, however, police have to subdue the suspect before rendering medical attention or adhering to pleas of anything. This death was accidental. The cop didn't intend to crush his windpipe or do anything other than subdue the suspect safely.

Do you believe that if suspect is resisting arrest and tells a cop "don't tase me, I have a heart condition", but continues to resist, is tased, and dies is an accident?

Cops, at least military cops, are specifically trained to wait until after they have subdued the suspects before rendering aid. This is especially true when you pepper spray a suspect. They will often cry they can't breathe, when in reality, they are simply panicking.

lack of intent to kill does not excuse negligence. I didn't see him resisting at all while saying he couldn't breath, and in any case the cop continued to choke him illegally after he was already on the ground. At that point there were at least four cops, and no weapons involved.

I wonder if this could have been avoided if the cops weren't standing there like assholes to begin with while a clearly frustrated (maybe rightfully maybe not) guy is just trying to get them to empathize with them. They look unprofessional with all those tats showing anyway. I am surprised cops can even dress like that.

It seems likely this guy's obesity contributed to his death but I still saw negligence.

 

[bshole]

This death was accidental. The cop didn't intend to crush his windpipe or do anything other than subdue the suspect safely.

Are you a mindreader in your spare time? I am impressed.

 

[ivwshane]

I think this simply boils down to the question of criminality. The GJ is trying to determine criminal actions.

Now the civil case here, there's some real traction.

And guess who foots the bill for the civil case the police are surely to lose? Hint: it's the same people that paid for the bank bailouts.

 

[bshole]

And guess who foots the bill for the civil case the police are surely to lose? Hint: it's the same people that paid for the bank bailouts.

Does this douche of a cop get to keep his job?

 

[ivwshane]

So mr apologist, what's your opinion of the fact that the officer used a technique to subdue the man that was prohibited?

Oops his bad! He won't do it again!

So, him saying "I can't breathe" while actively resisting being subdued is reason to just go "welp, let him go guys!". No. It is unfortunate what happened, however, police have to subdue the suspect before rendering medical attention or adhering to pleas of anything. This death was accidental. The cop didn't intend to crush his windpipe or do anything other than subdue the suspect safely.

Do you believe that if suspect is resisting arrest and tells a cop "don't tase me, I have a heart condition", but continues to resist, is tased, and dies is an accident?

Cops, at least military cops, are specifically trained to wait until after they have subdued the suspects before rendering aid. This is especially true when you pepper spray a suspect. They will often cry they can't breathe, when in reality, they are simply panicking.

The take down compressing the neck was the primary cause of death, but additional factors included his obesity and heart problems. The EMTs who did not render aid were suspended without pay, but I don't know for how long and if anything else came of it.

 

[ivwshane]

Does this douche of a cop get to keep his job?

I'm sure he will resign where the new white supremacist will raise some money for him.