Man gives police officer a ticket

[KokomoGST]

Well, I've been tailgated by cops many a time. I've even been pulled over for actually having the right of way and not letting the cop in. Lots of silly crap... and cops don't profile? We should treat them with respect? Yeah... only if they treat us with the same respect.

If some buttmunch pulls you over and gives you a lecture about "aggressive driving" when HE was the one guilty of it and the soccer mom in the SUV in front of me is speeding and gabbing away on her cell phone in one hand (in a handsfree only town no less), you think mebbe it's a tad unfair?

I think some of the cops in my area deserve to get hassled from time to time since they have so much free time to hassle innocent motorists with clean driving records just because they drive a sports car and look young... or maybe it's the azn thing. Maybe the NJ police need another state investigation into profiling?

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: NFS4

Until you are privy to everything going on inside the squad car you are in no position to object to minor speeding, rolling stop signs, etc.

I would fully support punishment for gross abuses of authority (ie using lights/sirens for personal reasons), but "giving a cop a ticket" for rolling a stop sign is petty at best.

I'll remember that next time I'm in a hurry to get to the local K-Mart. Afterall, they don't know what's "going on" inside my car.

Lead by example. How hard is it for the cop to stop at a stop sign? Sure, it may seem frivilous to stop the cop, but I bet he'll think twice about doing it again to save the embarassment

There are no circumstances in which you would be legally justified, however there are countless situations in which an officer would be. In a legitimate emergency (medical for example) it is highly unlikely that you would be ticketed, more likely escorted through traffic by the officer.

We commission them to have a reason to "break the law," let them do their jobs.

Viper GTS

That may be true but this cop was just driving back to the station. It wasn't even said that he stated anything about being in an emergency or whatnot. You say we shouldn't assume he wasn't in an emergency. Same goes to you. Don't assume that he was.

 

[GoodToGo]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: NFS4

Until you are privy to everything going on inside the squad car you are in no position to object to minor speeding, rolling stop signs, etc.

I would fully support punishment for gross abuses of authority (ie using lights/sirens for personal reasons), but "giving a cop a ticket" for rolling a stop sign is petty at best.

I'll remember that next time I'm in a hurry to get to the local K-Mart. Afterall, they don't know what's "going on" inside my car.

Lead by example. How hard is it for the cop to stop at a stop sign? Sure, it may seem frivilous to stop the cop, but I bet he'll think twice about doing it again to save the embarassment

There are no circumstances in which you would be legally justified, however there are countless situations in which an officer would be. In a legitimate emergency (medical for example) it is highly unlikely that you would be ticketed, more likely escorted through traffic by the officer.

We commission them to have a reason to "break the law," let them do their jobs.

Viper GTS

That may be true but this cop was just driving back to the station. It wasn't even said that he stated anything about being in an emergency or whatnot. You say we shouldn't assume he wasn't in an emergency. Same goes to you. Don't assume that he was.

Exactly, I dont know why Mill is getting so riled up about this. The cop screwed up and got caught. It is always good to have some sort of a check on the cops as well. Just becuase they are cops doesnt mean that they are above the law.

 

[SaltBoy]

Defending correct principles is NEVER a waste of time.

 

[Compton]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Mill


As for the story about the U-turn. BS. An officer can break a traffic law to apprehend a suspect or to enforce traffic laws. How the hell do you think they catch speeders hiding in the median, or chase in a high-speed pursuit?

1) I'm aware they can break the law to apprehend suspects
2) The story has made up parts. The biggets being I dont remember what the infraction was, but it was a case where my uncle did it and the cop did it as well, as under the conditions the cop did it were just as illegal.
3) Your stiking me as quite the dumbass this morning.

1. Your OP doesn't sound like it.
2. Sure it did.
3. That's just a reflection of yourself.

Wow, such amazing arguments.
You = teh dumbass. Confirmed.

LMAO

:beer:

 

[SunnyD]

Who watches the watchers?

 

[sygyzy]

I hope this happens more often. Frankly, I am surprised that the Chief of Police and PD didn't harass this guy (the civilian). It's refreshing that they are doing what is right (giving the cop a ticket).

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

A lot of bandwagon pussies in this thread

 

[Yossarian]

He should have given the cop a field sobriety test for good measure

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Got to weigh in against the cop in this case.

Here in MA, I really dislike the State Police. I routinely see them charging down the highway at over a hundred so they can pull into a spot and ticket someone doing 75 or 80. That's not right.

Yea sometimes they have to do what they must, but often it is because no one can challenge them that they break the laws themselves.

Because one can break the law because they are powerful is not a good enough excuse.

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

Everybody around thinks we just turned them on to get through a red light, never going to happen, EVER.

What are you trying to say here?

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

Everybody around thinks we just turned them on to get through a red light, never going to happen, EVER.

What are you trying to say here?

He's saying that people Assume that ambulance drivers/police officers turn on their lights to go through an intersection and then turn them off afterwards. He's saying that this is simply not true and will never happen. (With him at least)

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
This thread is officially teh ownage of a$hat Mill!

Just want to thow in my $.02

Mill, I don't think you're an a$hat. Hell, I don't even think you're an asshat either.

But I do think you're wrong here. It definitely wasn't a waste of time.

Also, I don't know where everyone is getting the "rolling the stop sign" part. The article says he ran the stop sign. At least in my mind those are different. Rolling the sign is slowing down most of the way, but not stopping. Running it is going through like it didn't exist. If he ran it then he deserves what he gets. If he rolled it, then yeah it probably was a waste of time.

 

[RabidMongoose]

He should have arrested the police officer. Citizen's Arrest!

Oh well...must be a pretty boring town to live in to report something like that.

 

[Ausm]

Citizen's arrest!! Citizen's arrest!!





sysadmin

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Kyteland

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
This thread is officially teh ownage of a$hat Mill!

Just want to thow in my $.02

Mill, I don't think you're an a$hat. Hell, I don't even think you're an asshat either.

But I do think you're wrong here. It definitely wasn't a waste of time.

Also, I don't know where everyone is getting the "rolling the stop sign" part. The article says he ran the stop sign. At least in my mind those are different. Rolling the sign is slowing down most of the way, but not stopping. Running it is going through like it didn't exist. If he ran it then he deserves what he gets. If he rolled it, then yeah it probably was a waste of time.

Rolling through and Rolling Stop are two different things

Rolling Through is just slowing ever so slighty (IMHO) through an intersection
Rolling Stop is coming to an almost complete stop, but never actually completely stopping forward motion.

 

[Drakkon]

im another giving props to this guy for reporting the "incident" at the stop sign.
The cops in my town are about the worst drivers i have ever scene, numerous ones have cut me off while dirving during rush hour traffic which i can let slide if they are going to a crime scene but the one that urked me the most was a motorcycle cop that tail gated me on a road going about 50mph...liternally about a foot off my bumper...i thoguht for sure he was going to pull me over but no dice...one lane road so couldn't change lanes...no traffic the other direction so he could've easily passed but nope. Finally we approach a stop sign and what else happens but the fvcker runs into me...luckly slowly enough that he doesn't fly off but not enough to damage me. Get out of my car and the cop wont let me report it or anything, says he'll be the first responder anyways so it wont matter. I'm like this is a ton of bs but what can you do? its the cops :Q

 

[LuNoTiCK]

I'm glad he did it. I wish I could see this happen more, if there not on call, than they have no reason to break the law. It is there for everyone.

 

[Voip]

Pig got what he deserved.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
So what's to prevent every citizen from going and making up a story to get a cop ticketed because they were mad about getting in trouble themselves?

Exactly what I am getting at. Citizens don't have the training, nor have they taken an oath or made a commitment.

 

Good.
I see cops talking on cell phones, running stop signs, speeing all the time.

I understand if they are on an important call, but usually they arn't, because I see them pull into a parking lot of a restaurant.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: brigden
Wow, Mill, you're a total and complete moron. I trust your absense from this thread means you're attempting to remove your head from your arse.

Anyway, I would have just left it. I'm not the type to really give a rat's ass about this kind of thing.

Unfortunately I went to bed, but feel free to think I "ran" from this thread. I still say it was a waste of time, and Viper and Macbaine provided much of the reasoning I was thinking as well. There is simply no way this is effective or teaching someone a lesson. The guy's son got a ticket for running the same stop sign, so he is obviously ticked off about it.

As for everyone else calling me an asshat and moron, good job. No credible argument, no disagreement with what I said. Just a bandwagon pile-on. Congrats.

 

[DainBramaged]

O.M.G. God, dude, deal with it.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Shockwave
Waste of time my ass. Cops are NOT exempt from the law. And if he did indeed run the stop sign he should be ticketed. In fact a similiar situation happened to my uncle. He did a U-turn or something minor which caused him to get pulled over. Well, in order to get pulled over the cop had to do something illegal too (I believe a U-turn). He said he'd gladly sign his ticket if the cop was issued a ticket for the same thing. The police chief was called out to the scene and backed my Uncle up. If my Uncle got a ticket, so did the cop. Ended up the cop gave him a warning

While you are correct that police officers are not exempt from the law, the officer in your uncle's case did nothing wrong. Police are allowed to speed and make U-turns in pursuit of a suspect. If the officer was in pursuit of your uncle, then the U-turn was legal.

ZV

 

According to many posters in this thread, cops are usually going someplace to eat. Seriously, that's all you guys think. I haven't heard one response such as, "Oh man, this one time I saw a cop run a red light without his lights on and then he wrestled this wife-beater to the ground!" Seriously, I'm tired of people saying that they see cops running red lights and then turn into Burger King. Does anyone really think that police officers think it's THAT important to get food? It's not. In fact, in the department I work at most of the officers bring their lunch to work.

Additionally, just because a police officer doesn't have his or her lights on and you see them turn into an eatery, it DOES NOT mean they're going there to stuff themselves. There are NUMEROUS things that can happen at a restaurant requiring a police response that usually don't happen at other businesses/residences. Workplace injuries (sliced thumbs, etc.), counterfeit bills, customer disturbances and medical emergencies such as choking. All of these calls would require a police response but none of them would require lights and/or siren.

I'm tired of people saying, "Oh this cop I saw was just driving fast to get something to eat," when they automatically assume that a police officer pulling into a restaurant means they're on break.

I've also seen in person that police officers receive calls for a robbery in progress or some other time-sensitive call that REQUIRES them to keep their lights and sirens off at ALL POSSIBLE TIMES.

An Arby's in Ann Arbor was robbed about 9 months ago at gunpoint and the thieves got away on foot. The officers that responded (I saw them on their way to the scene) turned their lights on to get through intersections and then turned them off. The last thing they need is to have the robbers run away from their loud sirens and bright lights. Covert but emergency response is an integral part of policing, and I for one, am sick and tired of people who just don't understand that.

And I'm not sure about your towns, but in Ann Arbor, both the U of M police and the Ann Arbor PD are some of the most skilled drivers I've ever seen, and they are sticklers for following rules. I've never seen an Ann Arbor cop break a traffic law when not on a call.