Man Just Brought Gun Into Comet Ping Pong

[IronWing]

This is the "some people are saying" defense.

Well they are.

 

[brycejones]

I wasn't making any claims, was just reporting what the original post suggested.

That makes your post even more pathetic.

 

[interchange]

That makes your post even more pathetic.

Please explain.

 

[trenchfoot]

Tell a lie, dare the person who calls it out to prove it. Accuse the critics of the lie as being unpatriotic, seditious and traitors to shut them up. When the lie is exposed for what it is, the believers of the lie will accuse the folks exposing the lie as being liars themselves.

What that does is have the believers circle the wagons around themselves and create their own unique identity.

Voila! The Tea Party is born.

All I'm waiting for now is what new iteration of the "true patriotic believers" is going to magically appear for the purpose of defending Trump and his new and improved effort to put a fresh layer of shinola on the "Reaganesque Principle of Trickle Down Economics and Small Government".

Trump, through his successful methodology of using blatant lies to scam his way into office has taught his followers an object lesson in how to lie their asses off and get away with it. He is the copyright and patent holder on this method and his followers will mimic this now proven method to defend Trump and the GOP as these two unified branches of government go about their ideologically driven business of sticking it to the middle class and the poor while they merrily help themselves to OUR tax $$$ in another big cash grab the likes of which we haven't seen since Bush and Cheney had their turn at it.

This new management team have learned their lessons from the Bush/Cheney debacle. They are going to raid the treasury much faster, more completely and much more discretely than their imbecilic predecessors. They were primed and barely able to control their urges while waiting impatiently for another chance to get richer quicker than the last time they had the opportunity.

Thank you Trump supporters for allowing this to happen again. But next time, try to have things arranged where the only folks who will suffer from the consequences of your gullibility is yourselves, and yourselves alone.

Pretty Please, with a lit cherry bomb on top.

edit - Apologies to the OP for straying off the deep end. Let me know if you want this post moved.

 

[interchange]

I just see people. I don't see the benefit to society of hitting people when they're down.

 

[ivwshane]

When did people become this gullible, stupid and easily led? And more to the point when did they become proud of it?

I started noticing more and more of it during the Bush years, 2003-4.

 

[brycejones]

Please explain.

He is spreading FUD and basically using the people are talking about it excuse to weasel out of it.

 

[Bitek]

I think this thread should be sufficient proof of the nonexistence of God, or the very least his role as omnipotent creator.

If I was God, I sure wouldn't want to take credit for the stunning stupidity of our species.

 

[interchange]

He is spreading FUD and basically using the people are talking about it excuse to weasel out of it.

I really don't know what happened or when he realized that, but my initial reaction is that he did not intentionally spread a false report.

If that's the case, I don't think it's right to attack someone for trying to honestly contribute, even if carelessly so, even if they try to cover it up with a lame excuse.

A society that punishes people for making mistakes should not be surprised when its members attempt to conceal mistakes or mitigate the embarrassment of them after they are exposed.

 

[brycejones]

I really don't know what happened or when he realized that, but my initial reaction is that he did not intentionally spread a false report.

If that's the case, I don't think it's right to attack someone for trying to honestly contribute, even if carelessly so, even if they try to cover it up with a lame excuse.

A society that punishes people for making mistakes should not be surprised when its members attempt to conceal mistakes or mitigate the embarrassment of them after they are exposed.

I think we disagree on the circumstances. Your opinion is a fair one, but I don't believe it was an honest mistake.

 

[baydude]

He is spreading FUD and basically using the people are talking about it excuse to weasel out of it.

You don't even have to be a "crazy" loony conspiracy theorist nutcase to see or spread pizzagate. It's all political. Notice there isn't breaking news on Fox News or other conservative news outlets about the gun man but it's all over CNN and liberal networks?

Here's one from CNN bashing Trump's Security Advisor's son, probably just because he's linked to Trump and it's CNN. Had the email leaks target republicans, I feel this would have been reported a lot differently.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/05/polit...ate-conspiracy-theory-donald-trump/index.html

 

[Victorian Gray]

You don't even have to be a "crazy" loony conspiracy theorist nutcase to see or spread pizzagate. It's all political. Notice there isn't breaking news on Fox News or other conservative news outlets about the gun man but it's all over CNN and liberal networks?

Here's one from CNN bashing Trump's Security Advisor's son, probably just because he's linked to Trump and it's CNN. Had the email leaks target republicans, I feel this would have been reported a lot differently.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/05/polit...ate-conspiracy-theory-donald-trump/index.html

Fox News

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...y-theory-led-gunman-into-dc-pizza-parlor.html

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/0...argeted-by-fake-news-conspiracy-theories.html

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/221479396-story

 

[Meghan54]

So, Flynn's son is a racist, right?
Says that right here:

 

[Painman]

Obviously, it's time to crack down on Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson and Mike Cernovich and Stefan Molyneux and...

 

[WelshBloke]

A society that punishes people for making mistakes should not be surprised when its members attempt to conceal mistakes or mitigate the embarrassment of them after they are exposed.

Absolutely society punishes people for mistakes. That's how it encourages people not to repeat those mistakes.

Try fucking up constantly at work and see what happens.

 

[brycejones]

So, Flynn's son is a racist, right?
Says that right here:

Honestly I could give 2 shits what the guy's son thinks since he isn't the one being put in a position of significant influence and power. More concerned that his father is in a role that is supposed to distill complex information into a factual narrative to help the POTUS make national security decisions appears to have a problem making up his own facts.

 

[HomerJS]

Honestly I could give 2 shits what the guy's son thinks since he isn't the one being put in a position of significant influence and power. More concerned that his father is in a role that is supposed to distill complex information into a factual narrative to help the POTUS make national security decisions appears to have a problem making up his own facts.

So here's what the actual General is pushing
https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/794000841518776320?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

 

[IronWing]

Obviously, it's time to crack down on Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson and Mike Cernovich and Stefan Molyneux and...

Or at least not bring them into the White House and put them on the payroll a la Bannon.

 

[Bitek]

Honestly I could give 2 shits what the guy's son thinks since he isn't the one being put in a position of significant influence and power. More concerned that his father is in a role that is supposed to distill complex information into a factual narrative to help the POTUS make national security decisions appears to have a problem making up his own facts.

Alarmingly, it's been reported that this son has been working for his father as part of the transition team and is confirmed to have a transition team email address.

When questioned, Pence is denying he's part of the transition..... Unclear if he means "anymore"

Regardless, apple doesn't fall far from the tree. The Flynn's have some looney F'ing thoughts, yet it's pop's job as a top advisor to speak logic and truth to potus, with military conflict on the line.



Michael G Flynn @mflynnJR
Until #Pizzagate proven to be false, it'll remain a story. The left seems to forget #PodestaEmails and the many "coincidences" tied to it. https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/805559273426141184 …

10:13 PM - 4 Dec 2016

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General Flynn–Verified account ‏@GenFlynn
U decide - NYPD Blows Whistle on New Hillary Emails: Money Laundering, Sex Crimes w Children, etc...MUST READ! http://truepundit.com/breaking-bombshell-nypd-blows-whistle-on-new-hillary-emails-money-laundering-sex-crimes-with-children-child-exploitation-pay-to-play-perjury/ …
7:18 PM - 2 Nov 2016

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Honestly I could give 2 shits what the guy's son thinks since he isn't the one being put in a position of significant influence and power. More concerned that his father is in a role that is supposed to distill complex information into a factual narrative to help the POTUS make national security decisions appears to have a problem making up his own facts.

So the fact his son is serving as his chief of staff is meaningless?

 

[brycejones]

So the fact his son is serving as his chief of staff is meaningless?

If his son has a role (I didn't check before my original post) then yes his previous statements are fair game to be reported on.

 

[interchange]

Absolutely society punishes people for mistakes. That's how it encourages people not to repeat those mistakes.

That's a rationalization.

Try fucking up constantly at work and see what happens.

Haven't you realized that people still keep fucking up constantly?

 

[WelshBloke]

That's a rationalization.

It's an explanation.

Haven't you realized that people still keep fucking up constantly?

You have a job? Try fucking up the same thing over and over, see how it goes.

 

[Moonbeam]

It's an explanation.



You have a job? Try fucking up the same thing over and over, see how it goes.

Exactly! The beatings will continue until moral improves.

Edit: Let me just add that as I understand interchange's situation is that he is a psychiatrist who works for the VA. If so and as such, it would seem to me that what drives interchange to work perfection isn't a fear of failure and loss of his job, but his love and actual real world commitment to people and furthermore a class of people who really deserve quality care. In my worthless opinion, the only morality that counts is not the morality that is driven by fear but the morality that comes from the love that can flower within.

So when you look at the world and say fuck up and you will be punished because that's how reality is, I would suggest you take a second look at that reality. I see one gigantically fucked up mess.

 

[interchange]

I don't work at the VA, but I have in residency.

I'll use a real-world example, and if I have time later in the day I will pull up some actual studies to support my argument.

Real-world example: the war on drugs. In the 70s Nixon started this thing and ramped up the criminality of drug use resulting in more and more programs aimed at deterring substance abuse. And subsequently there has been lots of data collected that shows fluctuation for individual drugs but overall that the programs have not worked and have instead harmed people simply for needing help.

What do you think? Should we amp up our fervor for punishing drug offenders? Or should we recognize that they are humans who are making mistakes and spend our resources offering treatment?

The reality is we've been inundated with this teaching throughout our life. Find who is responsible for a problem and punish them so they don't make it again. It doesn't work. What it does is allows us to believe that we aren't bad because it helps us avoid the pain of seeing ourselves as someone who might fuck up.

The really fucked up part of this is that, conversely, people who have been abused and tormented by this process chronically actually help make that happen. This is only because they have a life experience as a child of being fully dependent on their caregiver just as everyone else, except their caregiver wasn't good enough to provide for their needs. To face that reality, the person had to choose between identifying themselves as needing to be punished or giving up on the hope that they would be loved at all.

I challenge you, all of you, anyone who has a shred of listening, to pay attention to this. This is poison we repeat in our lives from generation to generation and we cannot change it without taking responsibility for ourselves.