Man makes truth telling documentary on Obama, gets nailed with trumped up charges

BUnit1701

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I think the question boils down to is it actually trumped up? If he really funneled the $20,000 in donations through third parties, than he should be punished. Of course, I would like to see EVERYONE who does this punished, but that is for another topic.
 

rudeguy

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from the article:
D’Souza is accused of directing various donors to give contributions to Long’s campaign totaling $20,000, and then reimbursing them. Individuals are only allowed to donate a maximum of $5,000 to a candidate per election cycle.

Good! Put his ass away. We don't need people cheating an already broken system. We need to take the money out of politics, not put more into it.
 

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Moonbeam

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I think the question boils down to is it actually trumped up? If he really funneled the $20,000 in donations through third parties, than he should be punished. Of course, I would like to see EVERYONE who does this punished, but that is for another topic.

But one you had to mention. The conservative brain always counter charges and attacks, not that I disagree. I just prefer my first instinct isn't to deflect.
 

Sonikku

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What we have are a bunch of scoff laws. Laws so many and obscure that Americans break one on average every day without even realizing it. That isn't a problem though because they're rarely enforced; only when the government is interested in bringing down the hammer on someone they're out to get. He was simply targeted for not buying into the liberal mainstream media conspiracy of casting the president in the most positive light possible.
 

thraashman

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What we have are a bunch of scoff laws. Laws so many and obscure that Americans break one on average every day without even realizing it. That isn't a problem though because they're rarely enforced; only when the government is interested in bringing down the hammer on someone they're out to get. He was simply targeted for not buying into the liberal mainstream media conspiracy of casting the president in the most positive light possible.

You talk as if he may have "accidentally" broken a law, but the charges indicate he knowingly and intentionally subverted the law. He's being charged because he committed a crime. His documentary was so stupid and full of ridiculous bullshit that it did nothing to hurt the President. The only people who thought it was anything but moronic were the ones who were already going to vote for his opponent. Perhaps if conservatives want to stop being charged with crimes, they should stop committing crimes. Ever thought of that?
 

rudeguy

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What we have are a bunch of scoff laws. Laws so many and obscure that Americans break one on average every day without even realizing it. That isn't a problem though because they're rarely enforced; only when the government is interested in bringing down the hammer on someone they're out to get. He was simply targeted for not buying into the liberal mainstream media conspiracy of casting the president in the most positive light possible.

Did you even read the article?
 

PokerGuy

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Did he break the law or not?

That depends. If he did something the current administration doesn't like, then probably. If not, then no, he didn't.

He probably broke all sorts of laws, but he'll get prosecuted while others will not because his views don't line up with the dear leader.

We've already seen that the administration has no problem using the IRS or other government agencies to punish those who don't get in line.
 

BUnit1701

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But one you had to mention. The conservative brain always counter charges and attacks, not that I disagree. I just prefer my first instinct isn't to deflect.

I didn't deflect anything, the OP did by trying to claim this was ONLY due to Dsouza's political views and statements.
 

BUnit1701

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What we have are a bunch of scoff laws. Laws so many and obscure that Americans break one on average every day without even realizing it. That isn't a problem though because they're rarely enforced; only when the government is interested in bringing down the hammer on someone they're out to get. He was simply targeted for not buying into the liberal mainstream media conspiracy of casting the president in the most positive light possible.

I've bolded the part that is accurate. However, considering he repaid individuals who he had earlier told to donate to a particular campaign, it would seem rather clear he was aware that he couldn't give more than $5000.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I've bolded the part that is accurate. However, considering he repaid individuals who he had earlier told to donate to a particular campaign, it would seem rather clear he was aware that he couldn't give more than $5000.

His donations were 4 times what was allowed and he showed that he wasn't acting out of ignorance. Maybe I'm wrong but attempting to materially influence a federal election by illegal funding isn't quite jaywalking.
 

Vic

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That depends. If he did something the current administration doesn't like, then probably. If not, then no, he didn't.

He probably broke all sorts of laws, but he'll get prosecuted while others will not because his views don't line up with the dear leader.

We've already seen that the administration has no problem using the IRS or other government agencies to punish those who don't get in line.

This line of argument isn't relevant. Most drivers on the road break the speed limit every time they get behind the wheel but that doesn't mean you don't have to pay the ticket if you get caught speeding. And it's certainly not evidence of a conspiracy either.
 

fskimospy

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It certainly sounds like the guy broke election law pretty obviously. Maybe when more facts come out this will change but at the moment it seems pretty bad for him. When you guys concoct a conspiracy theory for cases like this it just makes you look insane.
 

Hacp

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Every day, we as a nation average 3 or more laws broken per person. That's because we keep on writing new laws all the time! Its hard for the average person to figure out if what he is doing is breaking the law or not. This is why we need to dismantle the NSA, because they could get any one of us on a bunch of trumped up charges with only a day's worth of data.
 

PokerGuy

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When you guys concoct a conspiracy theory for cases like this it just makes you look insane.

Yeah, it's almost like all those crazy cooks who kept insisting there was some sort of conspiracy with the IRS scrutinizing their applications based on their political affiliation or something Obviously that could never happen.
 

PokerGuy

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Vic

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Yeah, it's almost like all those crazy cooks who kept insisting there was some sort of conspiracy with the IRS scrutinizing their applications based on their political affiliation or something Obviously that could never happen.

Doesn't that particular political affiliation advocate not paying taxes? I couldn't imagine why the IRS might want to scrutinize those groups.

Anyway, I don't care about this guy's politics. 2016 was basically a conservative's Michael Moore "documentary, " and I never liked those either.
 

fskimospy

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Yeah, it's almost like all those crazy cooks who kept insisting there was some sort of conspiracy with the IRS scrutinizing their applications based on their political affiliation or something Obviously that could never happen.

I'm guessing you haven't been following that 'scandal' very closely.
 

senseamp

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Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time.
Seems to me like Republicans like to engage in election fraud while pretending to be against it.
 

Vic

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It advocates changing the law to pay fewer taxes, not break the law.

The Democratic party seems to attract the criminals for some reason.

Your first sentence is debatable. Some (a minority) of the scrutinized groups do advocate various forms of tax evasion.

As to second sentence, are you really implying that there are no Republican criminals? How does one get to be this blindly partisan?
 
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