Man pays taxes in dollar bills and gets arrested

[John Connor]

A Wichita Falls man made news last week when he was arrested while trying to pay his property taxes.
Only there’s a little bit more to the story than that. The 27-year old Texan, Timothy Andrew Norris, arrived in person at the Wichita County Courthouse to pay his $600 property tax with individual dollar bills – only there was a twist. Or, er, a fold. Norris had allegedly folded each bill so tightly that it “required tax office personnel approximately six minutes to unfold each bill.”
If you’re doing the math, that means that it would take 3,600 minutes – or 60 hours, longer than a work week – to unfold the bills.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyph...after-attempt-to-pay-taxes-with-dollar-bills/

Well, he did it wrong. And resisted arrest to top it off. Now the moron will be late on paying the tax. At least Robert did it right. And why doesn't the bastard tax collector have money counting machines? I mean with all the money they collect they could afford one and it's not like the Federal Reserve Note says For All Debts Public Or Private Except The Taxman.





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[clamum]

The headline (and some mentally challenged commenters below the article) make it sound like he was arrested simply for paying in $1 dollar bills. He wasn't. He was arrested for refusing to leave the premises when asked.

 

[highland145]

The headline (and some mentally challenged commenters below the article) make it sound like he was arrested simply for paying in $1 dollar bills. He wasn't. He was arrested for being an asshole.

fixed.

 

[rudeguy]

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[highland145]

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You went to P&N? Lee Harvey.

 

[jlee]

The headline (and some mentally challenged commenters below the article) make it sound like he was arrested simply for paying in $1 dollar bills. He wasn't. He was arrested for refusing to leave the premises when asked.

Yup....next up, "Man wakes up in the morning and is arrested!"

sigh.

 

[JMapleton]

The headline (and some mentally challenged commenters below the article) make it sound like he was arrested simply for paying in $1 dollar bills. He wasn't. He was arrested for refusing to leave the premises when asked.

How To Comment on News Articles On The Internet:

Step 1: Don't read all the facts.

Step 2: Make accusatory and exaggerated statements that have nothing to do with what really happened.

Step 3: If discovered, turn it until a political debate.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

The headline (and some mentally challenged commenters below the article) make it sound like he was arrested simply for paying in $1 dollar bills. He wasn't. He was arrested for refusing to leave the premises when asked.

There's the problem.

He was entitled to pay in $1 bills. Its not clear if the tax collector was obligated to take them in the folded condition or demand them to be submitted unfolded. That would likely require a civil trial.

Now if the tax collector lost that suit they would have no right to refuse to take the folded bills and no right to throw him out without a receipt. By attempting to throw him out without counting his payment they interfered with his right to pay his taxes in a timely manner. This would be a pretty interesting case if it ever got to trial. If folded bills were okay they refused a legal payment and that leaves them liable.

 

[Train]

The headline (and some mentally challenged commenters below the article) make it sound like he was arrested simply for paying in $1 dollar bills. He wasn't. He was arrested for refusing to leave the premises when asked.

Welcome to news in the 21st century

 

[phucheneh]

Isn't the whole 'legal tender cannot be denied' thing a myth, anyway? Stories about people paying parking tickets in sacks of pennies and shit like that have been around forever, but I'm pretty sure there's nothing stopping a clerk from telling you to fuck off.

 

[ElFenix]

Isn't the whole 'legal tender cannot be denied' thing a myth, anyway? Stories about people paying parking tickets in sacks of pennies and shit like that have been around forever, but I'm pretty sure there's nothing stopping a clerk from telling you to fuck off.

yes.

 

[Hugo Drax]

"IN THE NEWS!!!! MAN ARRESTED AFTER WAKING UP IN THE MORNING, you would not believe what happens next"**








** After he murders 8 people, he ends up in jail.

 

[Puppies04]

How the hell do you fold up a bill so it takes 6 minutes to unfold. I'm calling shens.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

yes.

No.


Small coins are specifically banned from payments exceeding X amount unless the receiver chooses to accept them. Paying in pennies the tax collector does have a right to refuse them. No such restriction exists for paper money. Dollar bills are 100% legal tender for all government debts and the tax collector is obligated to accept them. The only thing at issue is whether the tax collector would be forced to accept them folded up.

And note that this is for debts to the government only. They have to accept legal tender other than small coins. Private business does not, they can set their own policies on what payments are and are not accepted.

 

[Homerboy]

How the hell do you fold up a bill so it takes 6 minutes to unfold. I'm calling shens.

I thought the same thing... then realized that it was a gov't worker doing the unfolding. So.... 6 mins was probably a speed record for them.

 

[mrjminer]

No.


Small coins are specifically banned from payments exceeding X amount unless the receiver chooses to accept them. Paying in pennies the tax collector does have a right to refuse them. No such restriction exists for paper money. Dollar bills are 100% legal tender for all government debts and the tax collector is obligated to accept them. The only thing at issue is whether the tax collector would be forced to accept them folded up.

And note that this is for debts to the government only. They have to accept legal tender other than small coins. Private business does not, they can set their own policies on what payments are and are not accepted.

I don't think they would be.

I think the argument would easily be made that they have no way of verifying if the bills are legitimate prior to unfolding them, and therefore are under no obligation to accept the bills prior to such verification being possible. I don't think it would be considered reasonable for the task of making the bills verifiable to rest on the shoulders of the person accepting them.

 

[WHAMPOM]

What! No charge for defacing/mutilating currency? Folding a dollar bill(good for all debts private and public)down to the size of a penny may count as that.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I don't think they would be.

I think the argument would easily be made that they have no way of verifying if the bills are legitimate prior to unfolding them, and therefore are under no obligation to accept the bills prior to such verification being possible. I don't think it would be considered reasonable for the task of making the bills verifiable to rest on the shoulders of the person accepting them.

I agree with you. It would be unreasonable for the tax collector to be forced to accept the bills in that condition. But since that law doesn't exist now it's for the courts to decide. He was kicked out of the office for attempting to make what is, at least until the law changes, a legal payment of his debt.

 

[zinfamous]

How To Comment on News Articles On The Internet:

Step 1: Don't read all the facts.

Step 2: Make accusatory and exaggerated statements that have nothing to do with what really happened.

Step 3: If discovered, turn it until a political debate.

AKA: John Connoring the shit out of the news!

 

[cbrsurfr]

So why did he do this again? He was unhappy that his tax bill was $600 so he thought he'd stick it to them?

 

[chimaxi83]

Sounds like the dude needs to get out of his moms basement and get a girlfriend. If it takes that long to unfold, how long did it take to fold all 600 of them? D:

 

[JulesMaximus]

There's the problem.

He was entitled to pay in $1 bills. Its not clear if the tax collector was obligated to take them in the folded condition or demand them to be submitted unfolded. That would likely require a civil trial.

Now if the tax collector lost that suit they would have no right to refuse to take the folded bills and no right to throw him out without a receipt. By attempting to throw him out without counting his payment they interfered with his right to pay his taxes in a timely manner. This would be a pretty interesting case if it ever got to trial. If folded bills were okay they refused a legal payment and that leaves them liable.

Either way the guy is a cock sucking douchebag. I hope he dies just for being a huge toolbag.

 

[Newell Steamer]

I am going with Man-trum. This guy threw a Man-trum.

 

[Train]

Why are so many people from Texas pricks?

 

[master_shake_]

Why are so many people from Texas pricks?

add a c to texas and you get sex act, sex act's involve penis's, prick is a euphemism for penis.

half-life 3 confirmed.