Man pistol whips police officer

[Genx87]

Do people really believe the unions claim? Their description of the events dont even line up with him being afraid of using deadly force because of the recent headlines. Their description sounds like he made a poor choice of letting a perp get into a position to suck punch him while he was calling it in. This sounds like the union taking advantage of a cop making a poor choice to complain bad cops are being reported on now instead of getting a pass like in the past.

That complaint could be remedied if the unions would stop resisting efforts to kick bad cops off the force.

 

[dank69]

True. Chances are that if he did every thing right "black shot by police" followed by people like you blaming everyone but the offender follows. Since he was likely to be killed or destroyed he might as well take out the black guy because this is only a problem when only #blacklivesmatter.

People like me? Maybe you should pay better attention since I haven't blamed anyone in any of these incidents.

Why don't you visit the detective's family and tell him how he's a member of an evil organization and had this coming. If it was my son who was beaten you'd wish ISIS had you if you pulled that crap.

The bad guy did it and that was the black guy in this case. His race does not excuse it nor warrant a witch hunt guaranteed to ensue.

Please quote where I said he had this coming or edit your post so it doesn't accuse me of saying something I never said.

 

[dank69]

You said that blue lines have consequences, meaning he has consequences for his actions. He didn't deserve this.

No, this terrible logic is the consequence of you being a retard, whether you are a cop or not. He doesn't have consequences for his actions. Shitty cops being douchebags have consequences for all their brethren. Get it right. Now, go back and edit your post to remove the part where you accuse me of saying or implying something I never said. If you don't, I will report your post just like you reported me like the little bitch you are.

Please have proof I am a cop. You and your other cop haters always try to claim I am.

The positive need to come from both sides, cops and civilians. But I shouldn't be surprised you only think one side needs to change.

I don't have proof, just like you don't have proof that when I said "you" I wasn't referring to cops and not you specifically. It could have been "Hey cops, you are not better than us."

 

[Ackmed]

Haha, cop haters getting made and resorting to insults. When no valid argument, sling names. That helps!

Who gives a shit, he probably did something to deserve it.

I mean, saying that works in one direction, why not the other?

That is terrible "logic". Simply astounding that you even think that. Although I shouldn't be surprised. Punishing a whole for the actions of a few is just silly. And who has said it in the other direction?

 

[dank69]

Haha, cop haters getting made and resorting to insults. When no valid argument, sling names. That helps!



That is terrible "logic". Simply astounding that you even think that. Although I shouldn't be surprised. Punishing a whole for the actions of a few is just silly. And who has said it in the other direction?

Actually, I made an argument along with the insults. You ignored the argument because you can't argue against it. Also now accusing me of being a cop-hater just because I don't cry over every cop that gets hurt as a result of blue line policies?

 

[WackyDan]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoberFett
I saw a plain clothes pull someone over the other day. On my way home from work, an unmarked car on the roadside, lights flashing, and there's a guy in a polo shirt and a holster on his hip talking to the driver.

Screw that. You want to ticket me, call in a uniformed officer. I'm not rolling my window down for any asshole who can put a couple lights on his dashboard.
And you'd be wrong to do that, but what else is new.

Actually you wouldn't be wrong. It is perfectly legal to call 911 if you feel you are being detained by someone posing as a police officer. You simply crack the window and tell them you are have called 911 and are awaiting confirmation or a uniformed officer on the scene. They can't charge you with anything for doing so, and they actually encourage you to question anything that seems out of place in this fashion.

 

[soulcougher73]

Thug is just such a dated word to choose. I guess its OK if OP is in his 70's.

Just seems like thug is becoming a code word for black helicopter folks lately.

oops title has been edited.

Could it be you just notice a lot of black thugs and instead of worrying about why their are so many you instead worry about the word?

 

[Ackmed]

Except not every officer who drives a marked car, also wears the normal uniform from what I've seen. If a marked car pulls me over, a guy gets out in a polo, badge and gun I'm not arguing. But apparently that is the cool thing to do, which usually doesn't go well. Appears to be just another excuse by some to "fight the power".

Actually, I made an argument along with the insults. You ignored the argument because you can't argue against it. Also now accusing me of being a cop-hater just because I don't cry over every cop that gets hurt as a result of blue line policies?

No I can, you just showed your side calling me a retard. No respect for you after that. If you can have a discussion without resorting to name calling, feel free.

Please explain your "blue line policies".

 

[Zorba]

Do people really believe the unions claim? Their description of the events dont even line up with him being afraid of using deadly force because of the recent headlines. Their description sounds like he made a poor choice of letting a perp get into a position to suck punch him while he was calling it in. This sounds like the union taking advantage of a cop making a poor choice to complain bad cops are being reported on now instead of getting a pass like in the past.

That complaint could be remedied if the unions would stop resisting efforts to kick bad cops off the force.

This is exactly my thought. How exactly did this officer feel his life was endanger from the unarmed man, until after the man stole the officer's gun? If he was really in fear for his life, why wasn't he holding his gun at the suspect? Also if you are sitting thinking about what the media will say, I seriously doubt you are truly in fear for your life.

BTW: Since I am sure I'll be accused of being a cop hater, I don't think he had it coming and the bystanders should've offered assistance/called 911.

 

[dank69]

Except not every officer who drives a marked car, also wears the normal uniform from what I've seen. If a marked car pulls me over, a guy gets out in a polo, badge and gun I'm not arguing. But apparently that is the cool thing to do, which usually doesn't go well. Appears to be just another excuse by some to "fight the power".



No I can, you just showed your side calling me a retard. No respect for you after that. If you can have a discussion without resorting to name calling, feel free.

Please explain your "blue line policies".

Haha, fuck off. I'll explain right after you edit the lie out of your post, and refute my original argument, if you can manage some integrity.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

This is exactly my thought. How exactly did this officer feel his life was endanger from the unarmed man, until after the man stole the officer's gun? If he was really in fear for his life, why wasn't he holding his gun at the suspect? Also if you are sitting thinking about what the media will say, I seriously doubt you are truly in fear for your life.

BTW: Since I am sure I'll be accused of being a cop hater, I don't think he had it coming and the bystanders should've offered assistance/called 911.

How exactly could the officer know the man was unarmed? Based on the link in the OP the man exited the car after being told to stay in the car.

Earlier this month, a Birmingham, Alabama, police detective pulled over a vehicle driving erratically on the road and ordered a suspect to remain the vehicle. But the suspect allegedly exited the car and aggressively moved towards the officer.

Sensing danger, the officer thought about using force to protect himself — but he decided against it and tried to call for backup.

 

[Zorba]

How exactly could the officer know the man was unarmed? Based on the link in the OP the man exited the car after being told to stay in the car.

So you think he should've been shot and killed just for getting out of the car? Or what act do you think made the officer scared for his life, but unwilling to even put his hand on his gun?

I think this cop probably was a little careless and invented a scapegoat.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So you think he should've been shot and killed just for getting out of the car? Or what act do you think made the officer scared for his life, but unwilling to even put his hand on his gun?

I think this cop probably was a little careless and invented a scapegoat.

It depends on how aggressive the person was acting, if it looked like the person intended to attack as soon as he exited the vehicle, I would say the officer could have used to force to prevent the person from getting to him.

It's very possible it occurred due to him being careless. If it were me I would have called for backup as soon as I started pulling the person over.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Haha, cop haters getting made and resorting to insults. When no valid argument, sling names. That helps!

Hahahaha....change cop hater to cop apologist and you just described most of your posts. Irony.

 

[bshole]

No, this terrible logic is the consequence of you being a retard, whether you are a cop or not. He doesn't have consequences for his actions. Shitty cops being douchebags have consequences for all their brethren. Get it right. Now, go back and edit your post to remove the part where you accuse me of saying or implying something I never said. If you don't, I will report your post just like you reported me like the little bitch you are.

Be that as it may, physically assaulting an officer of the law is a pretty damn serious transgression. I certainly would not want an individual capable of such violence walking the streets. If that person is willing to do that to a cop, what are they capable of doing to an unarmed civillian? I will give the perp credit for not killing the cop, I would give him 25 years instead of life for that act of mercy.

 

[JEDIYoda]

#Blacklivesmatter

Pretty horrible to see the reaction of the public posting pictures to social media instead of helping.

Earlier this month, a Birmingham, Alabama, police detective pulled over a vehicle driving erratically on the road and ordered a suspect to remain the vehicle. But the suspect allegedly exited the car and aggressively moved towards the officer.

Sensing danger, the officer thought about using force to protect himself — but he decided against it and tried to call for backup. Moments later, the suspect allegedly assaulted the officer, pistol-whipping him with his own service weapon and knocking him unconscious.

Instead of helping, several bystanders instead snapped photos and shared them online. Many people then posted ugly messages praising the brutal attack on the detective.


In a new interview with WBMA-TV, the unnamed officer revealed why he decided not to use force — and the implications are serious for law enforcement across the country.

“A lot of officers are being too cautious because of what’s going on in the media…I hesitated because I didn’t want to be in the media like I am right now,” he said.

He said police officers fear being in the media spotlight and argued “it’s hard times right now for us.”

The suspect in question, Janard Shamar Cunningham, is a black man and was seemingly unarmed during the incident.

Photo: Birmingham Police Department
Photo: Birmingham Police Department
Birmingham Police Chief A.C. Roper told WBMA-TV the “nobility and integrity of policing has been challenged” and the U.S. has “allowed popular culture to draft a narrative which is contrary to the amazing work that so many officers are doing everyday across this nation.”

Birmingham Police Sgt. Heath Boackle, who is also president of the city’s Fraternal Order of Police, agreed, saying the officer “could be dead right now” because of the hesitation caused by media coverage.

Even though we know that those citizens who were watching should have helped that Police officer, the Police have only themselves to blame when something like this happens.....

 

[Darwin333]

Did he have a taser? Tazing or pepper spraying an unarmed man won't get you on the news. I don't know police training but I would think that if you have some fear for your life use a taser. If you have a lot of fear for your life then use the gun. Why so much caution to use non-lethals ?

I think that it's just as likely that the cop didn't hesitate, he just got caught by surprise and is using this to further their side of the agenda. Which story would you prefer to tell, some guy got the jump on me, got my gun and pistol whipped me or do you throw in the hesitating to make yourself not look as bad?

 

[Darwin333]

It was the bystanders that did the horrendous thing. Not helping, not calling 911, just taking pictures and videos, then posting them. Which sadly happens all the time, people recording something and not helping. Its pathetic.

That is a rather well documented "social phenomenon". Doesn't matter if it's a cop or a woman getting raped, your chances of getting assistance from bystanders goes WAY down the more people that are there. Everyone expects someone else to intervene and no one does. Remember the girl that got gang raped by 4 guys during spring break? How many people helped her?

 

[Darwin333]

You said that blue lines have consequences, meaning he has consequences for his actions. He didn't deserve this. Please have proof I am a cop. You and your other cop haters always try to claim I am.

The positive need to come from both sides, cops and civilians. But I shouldn't be surprised you only think one side needs to change.

How do the civilians, who are at a severe almost complete disadvantage, "change" first?

Remember, we are talking about average people not gang bangers or violent criminals.

 

[BoberFett]

How do the civilians, who are at a severe almost complete disadvantage, "change" first?

Remember, we are talking about average people not gang bangers or violent criminals.

Apparently he wants people to stop obeying the law? I'm not sure what other change law abiding citizens can make.

 

[Darwin333]

That is terrible "logic". Simply astounding that you even think that. Although I shouldn't be surprised. Punishing a whole for the actions of a few is just silly. And who has said it in the other direction?

I have posted proof in other threads, straight from the mouth of cops, that it isn't just a few.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I'm still trying to understand why anyone would think it a good idea for civilians to jump in to a struggle between an armed police officer and an unidentified stranger who may or may not be armed as well.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I'm still trying to understand why anyone would think it a good idea for civilians to jump in to a struggle between an armed police officer and an unidentified stranger who may or may not be armed as well.

Because Ackmed is paid to post pro-police garbage!!

Please don't make undocumented personal accusations.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Sulaco]

I'm still trying to understand why anyone would think it a good idea for civilians to jump in to a struggle between an armed police officer and an unidentified stranger who may or may not be armed as well.

Who said anything about a struggle?

How about a call to 911? Or using your phone for something other than tweeting during an assault?

Some of these arguments are just erroneous to the point of absurdity. I get it. Cop hate is l33t. But when you're left with "Cop doing job within bounds of the law assaulted and knocked unconscious" is ok because the internet keeps telling us all cops are poop heads who all do poopy things, you're left with a vicious cycle that will never resolve itself.

 

[Thanatosis]

So because the cop "feared being in the media" he gave his service weapon to this guy and let himself get beat with it? Am I missing something here?



It sounds like he got his ass kicked and the suspect was apprehended by an officer who knew what he was doing. This idiot should be fired, and the charges dropped.



Good beatdown.