Man pistol whips police officer

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LegendKiller

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So because the cop "feared being in the media" he gave his service weapon to this guy and let himself get beat with it? Am I missing something here?



It sounds like he got his ass kicked and the suspect was apprehended by an officer who knew what he was doing. This idiot should be fired, and the charges dropped.



Good beatdown.

Yeah, let's encourage all out anarchy and lack of regard for the law. That'll make a great society. One in which even a 93yr old can't even drive around without fear of not only getting mugged, but also carjacked.

People like you are fucking pathetic.
 

FerrelGeek

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Jan 22, 2009
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I hope you're the recipient of a good beatdown while a bunch of cops stand around and applaud the perp, then let him walk away.

So because the cop "feared being in the media" he gave his service weapon to this guy and let himself get beat with it? Am I missing something here?



It sounds like he got his ass kicked and the suspect was apprehended by an officer who knew what he was doing. This idiot should be fired, and the charges dropped.



Good beatdown.
 

Ackmed

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Oct 1, 2003
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That is a rather well documented "social phenomenon". Doesn't matter if it's a cop or a woman getting raped, your chances of getting assistance from bystanders goes WAY down the more people that are there. Everyone expects someone else to intervene and no one does. Remember the girl that got gang raped by 4 guys during spring break? How many people helped her?

I understand that is how it is for almost everyone universally. It is still pathetic. I do remember that rape. And a video of four guys hitting one guy on a subway with everyone watching. The one person recording. It is very sad that we're at that point.

How do the civilians, who are at a severe almost complete disadvantage, "change" first?

Remember, we are talking about average people not gang bangers or violent criminals.

Why are we just talking about average people? Lots of times "average people" put themselves into terrible situations. The boy stopped for flashing the cop? The female who just hung herself? That needs change on both sides, not just the cops side of things. Both people acted like idiots and ended up dead. Both sides need to treat each other with respect and things would be a lot better. Mouthing off to a cop isn't a good idea. I have been there and dealt with the consequences. At the same time, cops don't need to mouth off for no reason either. Its a both sides problem, not just the cops.

I have posted proof in other threads, straight from the mouth of cops, that it isn't just a few.

So a few random people post something and it is taken as truth no matter what? Gotcha.

So because the cop "feared being in the media" he gave his service weapon to this guy and let himself get beat with it? Am I missing something here?

It sounds like he got his ass kicked and the suspect was apprehended by an officer who knew what he was doing. This idiot should be fired, and the charges dropped.

Good beatdown.

I seriously doubt he gave him his gun. It is likely he took it from the cop while beating him. The fact that you think the cop should be fired for doing his job, and charges dropped on someone who almost killed someone is just mind boggling. Then calling it a good beat down? You are the problem, not the cop. You won't ever admit that though, or you're just too ignorant to see it.
 

CitizenKain

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Why are we just talking about average people? Lots of times "average people" put themselves into terrible situations. The boy stopped for flashing the cop? The female who just hung herself? That needs change on both sides, not just the cops side of things. Both people acted like idiots and ended up dead. Both sides need to treat each other with respect and things would be a lot better. Mouthing off to a cop isn't a good idea. I have been there and dealt with the consequences. At the same time, cops don't need to mouth off for no reason either. Its a both sides problem, not just the cops.

But somehow mouthing off to a cop can end up with the civilian dead and the cop given a couple days off. That needs to change first, because someone hurting officer piggy's feelings doesn't deserve to be arrested or murdered because he never changed from being a bully in school.
 

Ackmed

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But somehow mouthing off to a cop can end up with the civilian dead and the cop given a couple days off. That needs to change first, because someone hurting officer piggy's feelings doesn't deserve to be arrested or murdered because he never changed from being a bully in school.

In the case I stated, the boy did not just hurt the cops feelings. He did not obey lawful commands, and attacked the cop. So no it is not murder like you claimed. Your poor assumptions and name calling make you look silly. You're clearly bias and have no desire to change. You clearly are part of the problem too. No sense even trying to have a discussion with you, so I'll stop.
 

Pipeline 1010

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In the case I stated, the boy did not just hurt the cops feelings. He did not obey lawful commands, and attacked the cop. So no it is not murder like you claimed. Your poor assumptions and name calling make you look silly. You're clearly bias and have no desire to change. You clearly are part of the problem too. No sense even trying to have a discussion with you, so I'll stop.

There are plenty of cases of cops arresting, beating, and even killing people for mouthing off, even if you thought this particular killing was just. When we have given a certain class of people multiple layers of protections that allow them to get away with this behavior, then it's a HUGE problem and needs to change. It is impossible to argue otherwise unless you are a troglodyte who believes that physical violence and/or ruining someone's life is an acceptable response to insults or attitude.

Speaking of bias and desire to change, what is your solution to cops having unlimited power to ruin lives over ego trips?
 

Darwin333

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I understand that is how it is for almost everyone universally. It is still pathetic. I do remember that rape. And a video of four guys hitting one guy on a subway with everyone watching. The one person recording. It is very sad that we're at that point.

While I think it's very sad as well, it's been studied and even good/decent people will do nothing.

Why are we just talking about average people? Lots of times "average people" put themselves into terrible situations. The boy stopped for flashing the cop? The female who just hung herself? That needs change on both sides, not just the cops side of things. Both people acted like idiots and ended up dead. Both sides need to treat each other with respect and things would be a lot better. Mouthing off to a cop isn't a good idea. I have been there and dealt with the consequences. At the same time, cops don't need to mouth off for no reason either. Its a both sides problem, not just the cops.

I agree with you to a point but cops are trained to deal with people who are "mouthing off". I expect more out of the trained professional who has been granted authority by the state and the ability to legally use deadly force. How about the lady who was forcibly stripped and given a cavity search on the side of the road, should she just have "changed her attitude" and allowed them to molest her on the side of the road?

So a few random people post something and it is taken as truth no matter what? Gotcha.

I guess if you consider the Department of Justice conducting a poll of actual police officers "random people posting something", then yes I take it relatively seriously.
 

rommelrommel

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I'm still trying to understand why anyone would think it a good idea for civilians to jump in to a struggle between an armed police officer and an unidentified stranger who may or may not be armed as well.

It's the right thing to do. Help if you can.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Curious to see what Ackmed thinks about these cops:

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/two-former-east-point-officers-indicted-for-murder/nnMDf/

They continually tased/stunned a handcuffed man until he died. They chased him into the woods, and caught and handcuffed him. The man said he was short of breath and couldn't get up, so they tased him 14 times to get him to move.

That couldn't be considered abuse could it? Tasing a person to deliberately inflict pain?

Those two cops basically tortured that man until he died. I'm sure they didn't mean for him to die, but they sure meant to hurt him.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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It's the right thing to do. Help if you can.

No thanks. If I help a cop and am still actively helping him in a struggle, any backup police come up and they won't see me as helping, they will see two criminals and quite possible shoot and kill both me and the actual attacker.

So no way would I jump in unless I knew whatever I did would be over in a matter of seconds, and allow the engaged cop to regain control.

But a brawl or wrestling match? We've seen way too many videos of cops shooting first, and I'm not risking my life that way.
 

bshole

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Curious to see what Ackmed thinks about these cops:

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/two-former-east-point-officers-indicted-for-murder/nnMDf/

They continually tased/stunned a handcuffed man until he died. They chased him into the woods, and caught and handcuffed him. The man said he was short of breath and couldn't get up, so they tased him 14 times to get him to move.

That couldn't be considered abuse could it? Tasing a person to deliberately inflict pain?

Those two cops basically tortured that man until he died. I'm sure they didn't mean for him to die, but they sure meant to hurt him.

They have been fired and charged with murder. They are being held accountable for their actions. This is an indication that the sytem is starting to work.
 

bshole

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No thanks. If I help a cop and am still actively helping him in a struggle, any backup police come up and they won't see me as helping, they will see two criminals and quite possible shoot and kill both me and the actual attacker.

So no way would I jump in unless I knew whatever I did would be over in a matter of seconds, and allow the engaged cop to regain control.

But a brawl or wrestling match? We've seen way too many videos of cops shooting first, and I'm not risking my life that way.

You sir are a true American hero! Lol....
 

GarfieldtheCat

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You sir are a true American hero! Lol....

Lets look at the probable outcomes of helping a cop that is being attacked:

#1 Cop thinks I am assaulting him as well, and not helping him. Result: I'm liable to be shot, tased, or beaten by the cop

#2 Acutal Criminal attacks me for helping the cop. Result: I'm liable to be shot, knifed, or beaten by the crimnal

#3 Backup arrives and sees two men attacking a cop. Result: I'm liable to be shot, knifed, or beaten by the backup cops.

#4 Cop regains control after helping him, and thanks me.

So 3 of the 4 scenarios come out as having severe negative outcomes for me.

I'm just doing what cops do....looking out for themselves first. I mean cops shoot all these unarmed men because they are just being safe right? And everyone supports cops protecting themselves at all costs, up to shooting all these unarmed men for "furtive movements" or "might have had a gun".

So I am just doing what cops do....protecting myself first so I can go home safe and uninjured.
 

Rakehellion

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Jan 15, 2013
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When did this ever become a racial thing? There can be white thugs, asian thugs, purple thugs, green thugs. It has nothing to do with race, unless someone makes it so. And it appears race was not brought into before, well...you did.

And do you have a better, more acceptable term for someone who assaults a cop?

The very first word in this thread is "black."
 

Jaskalas

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Jun 23, 2004
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Officer had a choice. Shoot the unarmed man dead, and become the next pariah that the national media condemns and destroys. Ruin your family and your life - forever. Or risk your own life and try to confront the suspect without a gun. At least your family would get benefits then.
 

Zorba

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Officer had a choice. Shoot the unarmed man dead, and become the next pariah that the national media condemns and destroys. Ruin your family and your life - forever. Or risk your own life and try to confront the suspect without a gun. At least your family would get benefits then.

So scared for his life, that he didn't even draw his gun, or have his hand on it. So of course his only choices were to kill the black guy or get beaten up/killed himself.
 
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