Man pistol whips police officer

jiggahertz

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Pretty horrible to see the reaction of the public posting pictures to social media instead of helping.

Earlier this month, a Birmingham, Alabama, police detective pulled over a vehicle driving erratically on the road and ordered a suspect to remain the vehicle. But the suspect allegedly exited the car and aggressively moved towards the officer.

Sensing danger, the officer thought about using force to protect himself — but he decided against it and tried to call for backup. Moments later, the suspect allegedly assaulted the officer, pistol-whipping him with his own service weapon and knocking him unconscious.

Instead of helping, several bystanders instead snapped photos and shared them online. Many people then posted ugly messages praising the brutal attack on the detective.


In a new interview with WBMA-TV, the unnamed officer revealed why he decided not to use force — and the implications are serious for law enforcement across the country.

“A lot of officers are being too cautious because of what’s going on in the media…I hesitated because I didn’t want to be in the media like I am right now,” he said.

He said police officers fear being in the media spotlight and argued “it’s hard times right now for us.”

The suspect in question, Janard Shamar Cunningham, is a black man and was seemingly unarmed during the incident.

Photo: Birmingham Police Department
Photo: Birmingham Police Department
Birmingham Police Chief A.C. Roper told WBMA-TV the “nobility and integrity of policing has been challenged” and the U.S. has “allowed popular culture to draft a narrative which is contrary to the amazing work that so many officers are doing everyday across this nation.”

Birmingham Police Sgt. Heath Boackle, who is also president of the city’s Fraternal Order of Police, agreed, saying the officer “could be dead right now” because of the hesitation caused by media coverage.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ressing-reason-he-didnt-use-force-on-suspect/
 

LegendKiller

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This would likely have been Darren Wilson, if he lived at all.

When you allow criminals to run over law enforcement, you have anarchy.
 

KK

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I'm the first to be against police for them abusing their power, but I would have seen nothing wrong with putting this thug 6 feet under where he belongs.
 

Indus

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If he needs to shoot for fear of self defense.. get a record of it on video.
 

WHAMPOM

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Sounds fishy to me. Why is a detective pulling over cars wothout calling in a patrol car in to ticket it? Does a detective even carry a citation booklet?
 

Sulaco

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Just to make sure I understand Thug = Black Guy correct?

When did this ever become a racial thing? There can be white thugs, asian thugs, purple thugs, green thugs. It has nothing to do with race, unless someone makes it so. And it appears race was not brought into before, well...you did.

And do you have a better, more acceptable term for someone who assaults a cop?
 

BoberFett

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Sounds fishy to me. Why is a detective pulling over cars wothout calling in a patrol car in to ticket it? Does a detective even carry a citation booklet?

I saw a plain clothes pull someone over the other day. On my way home from work, an unmarked car on the roadside, lights flashing, and there's a guy in a polo shirt and a holster on his hip talking to the driver.

Screw that. You want to ticket me, call in a uniformed officer. I'm not rolling my window down for any asshole who can put a couple lights on his dashboard.
 

Wyndru

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Bottom line is nobody trusts anyone anymore.

Which is fine, but we should all be armed to protect ourselves, and not be judged when we make a move.

History, nor movements like "Black Live Matter" change a thing.
It's all about actions. And how you react to them.

Probably the definition of anarchy, but controlled chaos has proven to be ineffective also.

The problem with all of this is when we have a group that uses history to their benefit.

It's nothing new:


Booker T. Washington said:
“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs -- partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”

Put this guy's picture and his quote on an "All Lives Matter" T-Shirt, you will make millions.
 
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Pipeline 1010

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Will the suspect, Janard Shamar Cunningham, be legally allowed several days to speak with his attorneys before being questioned by police? Will he be investigated by his drinking buddies to find out if his actions were part of his employer's policy? If he acted according to the policy of his employer, will this likely cause him to be free from criminal charges? If the officer sues the suspect, will the taxpayers have to pay the settlement? Can the officer even personally sue the suspect or will the suspect be granted some bullshit like "sovereign immunity"? Will the DA be politically unable and unwilling to charge this suspect with a crime since the suspect's coworkers will stop cooperating with the DA (like assholes) if he charges the suspect? If the suspect is charged with a crime, will the DA allow a criminal defense attorney to be jury foreman? In trial will the suspect's testimony be treated as truth even if it blatantly contradicts video?

No to all of these? It sounds like justice has a good chance of being served in this case. What a stark contrast from cases where a cop does something wrong to a non-cop.
 

KB

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“A lot of officers are being too cautious because of what’s going on in the media…I hesitated because I didn’t want to be in the media like I am right now,” he said.

He said police officers fear being in the media spotlight and argued “it’s hard times right now for us.”

The suspect in question, Janard Shamar Cunningham, is a black man and was seemingly unarmed during the incident.

Photo: Birmingham Police Department
Photo: Birmingham Police Department
Birmingham Police Chief A.C. Roper told WBMA-TV the “nobility and integrity of policing has been challenged” and the U.S. has “allowed popular culture to draft a narrative which is contrary to the amazing work that so many officers are doing everyday across this nation.”

Birmingham Police Sgt. Heath Boackle, who is also president of the city’s Fraternal Order of Police, agreed, saying the officer “could be dead right now” because of the hesitation caused by media coverage.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ressing-reason-he-didnt-use-force-on-suspect/


Did he have a taser? Tazing or pepper spraying an unarmed man won't get you on the news. I don't know police training but I would think that if you have some fear for your life use a taser. If you have a lot of fear for your life then use the gun. Why so much caution to use non-lethals ?
 

jiggahertz

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When did this ever become a racial thing? There can be white thugs, asian thugs, purple thugs, green thugs. It has nothing to do with race, unless someone makes it so. And it appears race was not brought into before, well...you did.

And do you have a better, more acceptable term for someone who assaults a cop?

thug
THəɡ/
noun
1.
a violent person, especially a criminal.
synonyms: ruffian, hooligan, vandal, hoodlum, gangster, villain, criminal; informaltough, bruiser, hardman, goon, heavy, enforcer, hired gun, hood

Apparently pistol whipping a cop isn't considered violent according to some.
 

Ackmed

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Sounds fishy to me. Why is a detective pulling over cars wothout calling in a patrol car in to ticket it? Does a detective even carry a citation booklet?

He did call for a marked unit. Try reading before posting.

I saw a plain clothes pull someone over the other day. On my way home from work, an unmarked car on the roadside, lights flashing, and there's a guy in a polo shirt and a holster on his hip talking to the driver.

Screw that. You want to ticket me, call in a uniformed officer. I'm not rolling my window down for any asshole who can put a couple lights on his dashboard.

And you'd be wrong to do that, but what else is new.

Did he have a taser? Tazing or pepper spraying an unarmed man won't get you on the news. I don't know police training but I would think that if you have some fear for your life use a taser. If you have a lot of fear for your life then use the gun. Why so much caution to use non-lethals ?

Same goes for you, read before replying. He was a detective, on the way to interview someone on a case. He was in a polo and not the regular uniform with the batman belt. So no, he didn't have all of that.
 

dank69

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Decades of police intimidation have led to this, detective. Blue lines have consequences, but let's blame the media.
 

Ackmed

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So this detective deserved this? Nice excuse. Thats pretty pathetic so say, but not uncommon here. It was the bystanders that did the horrendous thing. Not helping, not calling 911, just taking pictures and videos, then posting them. Which sadly happens all the time, people recording something and not helping. Its pathetic. But yeah, that is going to make positive changes.
 

dank69

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So this detective deserved this? Nice excuse. Thats pretty pathetic so say, but not uncommon here. It was the bystanders that did the horrendous thing. Not helping, not calling 911, just taking pictures and videos, then posting them. Which sadly happens all the time, people recording something and not helping. Its pathetic. But yeah, that is going to make positive changes.

Please quote where I said he deserved it. The positive changes need to come from every police officer. You are not better people than us.

It has not been established that Ackmed is a police officer. Please refrain from implying or stating that he is.

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Londo_Jowo

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I have a feeling you won't see anymore officers hesitate in similar circumstances, use whatever force is required to put down a threat. A judge on Florida's 5th DCA put it best.

"That the attacker sustained a mortal wound is a matter that should have been considered by the deceased before he committed himself to the task he undertook."
 

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Decades of police intimidation have led to this, detective. Blue lines have consequences, but let's blame the media.

True. Chances are that if he did every thing right "black shot by police" followed by people like you blaming everyone but the offender follows. Since he was likely to be killed or destroyed he might as well take out the black guy because this is only a problem when only #blacklivesmatter.

Why don't you visit the detective's family and tell him how he's a member of an evil organization and had this coming. If it was my son who was beaten you'd wish ISIS had you if you pulled that crap.

The bad guy did it and that was the black guy in this case. His race does not excuse it nor warrant a witch hunt guaranteed to ensue.
 

Ackmed

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Please quote where I said he deserved it. The positive changes need to come from every police officer. You are not better people than us.

You said that blue lines have consequences, meaning he has consequences for his actions. He didn't deserve this. Please have proof I am a cop. You and your other cop haters always try to claim I am.

The positive need to come from both sides, cops and civilians. But I shouldn't be surprised you only think one side needs to change.
 

CitizenKain

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Who gives a shit, he probably did something to deserve it.

I mean, saying that works in one direction, why not the other?
 
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