Man Sends Wife Spreadsheet Of All Her Excuses Not To Have Sex

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amicold

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for all I know, she could be working a high-stress job and coming home from work to discover her husband on the couch watching tv, piles of laundry all over the house, and dinner not even started yet. that wouldn't exactly put me in the mood for sex either.

I am reading this thread on my phone so when I double tap the posts fill up the screen. I read this last paragraph and thought to myself "must be gay or a woman." Batting a thousand. When I get home from work, sweaty, filthy, and exhausted, the gf hasn't done shit with the place and she has been on vacation for two weeks, I'll still pump her long before I think about laundry.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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I am reading this thread on my phone so when I double tap the posts fill up the screen. I read this last paragraph and thought to myself "must be gay or a woman." Batting a thousand. When I get home from work, sweaty, filthy, and exhausted, the gf hasn't done shit with the place and she has been on vacation for two weeks, I'll still pump her long before I think about laundry.

Call out.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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I think you are misunderstanding me. When I say the wife has no business refusing sex to the man, I mean it in the sense that she should be responsible enough to care for his sexual needs. Just like he should be. He should never be refusing it either, except under extra ordinary circumstances. If it were left to when both really "feel" like it, sex would be just about non existent - as is the case often these days.

Do you still live at your parent's home?
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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You'd get further if you made it PowerPoint presentation.

What about creating a plan complete with deadlines in Microsoft Project? You could even make some nice burn down charts to show how she's behind on her "womanly duties"! Put that MBA to use!!
 

Ancalagon44

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Feb 17, 2010
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Sex entitlement is when you think your entitled to a womans body, that you think because your her boyfriend or husband that somehow you have a right to have sex with her, that her body is somehow yours, and you have a right to it. I for one would never force my partner into having sex with me, nor guilt trip her into it, or make her feel bad for not wanting to have sex with me. If there is a problem we would talk it out. Your significant other is not obligated to have sex with you period. But one thing is for certain I don't feel that I am entitled to my wife's body in anyway... and that folks is what sex entitlement is all about. I see too many on here posting in a very "sex entitlement" covert way, and yea that bothers me.

I don't think it has anything to do with that, and I don't think he is trying to guilt trip her.

He is basically saying, you don't love me anymore.
 

Wyndru

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The guy asks almost every day too. The wife is probably frustrated with his constant hounding.
He sounds pretty pathetic, and I didn't read the whole story, but I wouldn't blame the wife if she bailed on him. Now she has the support of all her friends too, who are probably looking at the sheet and wondering why she put up with his lost puppy antics for so long.

It reminds me of that guy in that new "Married" sitcom on FX. Every night he asks her if she thinks something on his junk looks normal, and then he asks her if she thinks it would taste strange too lol.
 

Brian Stirling

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Shouldn't this have been done as a PowerPoint presentation? I'm not sure what kind of background graphics or music you'd want to use, but this is definitely more of a PowerPoint kind of thing...

OK, so if this had been done as a Powerpoint what kind of background graphics and music would be appropriate?


Brian
 

Blackjack200

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May 28, 2007
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Shouldn't this have been done as a PowerPoint presentation? I'm not sure what kind of background graphics or music you'd want to use, but this is definitely more of a PowerPoint kind of thing...

OK, so if this had been done as a Powerpoint what kind of background graphics and music would be appropriate?


Brian

I'm thinking the acopella group that did the AIDS song in Family Guy. He should have written a song about his sexual frustration and sung it to her while masturbating furiously (is there any other way?) into a sock.
 

Ancalagon44

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Feb 17, 2010
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Statistics would have helped. What is the trend of sexual activity per month? Is it decreasing or increasing? What is the quarterly forecast? Can we hit our numbers?

What was the reason given most often? Can we apply the Pareto rule and eliminate 80% of rejections by solving 20% of the problem? What if we threw the TV out the window, for instance? Or sprayed her with a garden hose when she gets home from gym?
 

BlitzPuppet

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What was the reason given most often? Can we apply the Pareto rule and eliminate 80% of rejections by solving 20% of the problem? What if we threw the TV out the window, for instance? Or sprayed her with a garden hose when she gets home from gym?

Lol, that's actually pretty funny to think about.
 

child of wonder

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Aug 31, 2006
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Having been happily married for 10 years and a father of two kids (11 and 10) I can definitely see how married life not only makes sex more difficult and reduces the opportunities for it, but also how it reduces the females desire for it.

Early in a relationship when everything is exciting and new, naturally both parties want to have sex frequently. However, once a relationship becomes a stable, long term affair or a marriage, the woman no longer feels like she needs to impress the man or try to keep him around with lots of sex. It's not a conscious decision, mind you, just a result of evolutionary biology. On the flip side, nothing changes from the man's point of view regarding sex: he still wants it all the time, save for the uncommon cases when a male becomes low desire.

My wife and I have had many discussions about sex and our fair share of arguments, too. For her, stress, being tired, not feeling attractive, and the kids being awake all detract from her sex drive. To top things off, she's been on birth control for many years and it, too, reduces her libido. She rarely turns me down for sex and I try to temper how often I initiate so as not to set myself up for disappointment too often. That being said, we still average around 2 times per week. It used to be 1 until I decided that as my 35th birthday approaches there will be a day when my desire will wane and I want to take full advantage of it now while I still can and she's been OK with that. Our biggest issue now is that I'd like her to initiate more often and she's been improving on that front. I'm hoping now that I'm snipped she can go on a lower dose of hormonal BC to help get her libido up plus I've been doing more laundry and chores around the house so she doesn't need to worry about them so much. As I told her, you're not my sex slave and it's not fair to expect you to have a busy day at work, come home and do chores, then be ready and willing once bed time rolls around.

Ironically, we went through a period of the exact opposite ~9-10 years ago and I didn't even realize it. I was big into jerking off to porn and it reduced my libido while hers was high. I could have been having sex a lot more often then but was too stupid to realize it. Looking back on it, I really kick myself. My wife will be 31 this year and I'm really, really looking forward to her hitting her sexual peak in her 30's.

In this guy's case, I could see how compiling a list of rejections might be eye opening to a spouse if presented to her calmly and in private, but not sent over email accompanied with vitriol and followed up with the silent treatment. It just goes to show how poorly they communicate with each other and how unhealthy their marriage is.

Over the years I've learned sex is a two way street. As a husband who desires lots of sex, until someone invents a horny switch that can be installed in wives, if I want her drive to increase there's things I can do to facilitate that whether it be doing a better job of setting the mood or just taking a load off of her so stress or worry don't get in the way. To get me started, I'm like a push button ignition -- just hit the button and the engine starts. For women, many are like a stubborn engine that requires some extra cranking to get going. That's not a bad thing, it's just the difference between the sexes. My wife does awesome things for me that she may not be interested in because she truly loves me and wants me to be happy. When it comes to sex, why should I be exempt from doing the same for her?
 

WackyDan

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The guy asks almost every day too. The wife is probably frustrated with his constant hounding.
He sounds pretty pathetic, and I didn't read the whole story, but I wouldn't blame the wife if she bailed on him. Now she has the support of all her friends too, who are probably looking at the sheet and wondering why she put up with his lost puppy antics for so long.

It reminds me of that guy in that new "Married" sitcom on FX. Every night he asks her if she thinks something on his junk looks normal, and then he asks her if she thinks it would taste strange too lol.

If he doesn't attempt to initiate he'll likely go far longer without sex. He probably is asking and also initiating contact only to be shot down by her over and over again. If anyone shoudl be leaving the marriage it should be him.
 

Fritzo

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If he doesn't attempt to initiate he'll likely go far longer without sex. He probably is asking and also initiating contact only to be shot down by her over and over again. If anyone shoudl be leaving the marriage it should be him.

Here's how things like that work (from experience):

Night 1: You in the mood?
No.

Night 2: You in the mood?
No

Night 3-5: Skip asking.

Night 6: You in the mood?
No

Night 7-12: Skip asking.

Night 13: Wife complains you never want to be intimate anymore.
 

fleshconsumed

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The guy asks almost every day too. The wife is probably frustrated with his constant hounding.
He sounds pretty pathetic, and I didn't read the whole story, but I wouldn't blame the wife if she bailed on him. Now she has the support of all her friends too, who are probably looking at the sheet and wondering why she put up with his lost puppy antics for so long.

It reminds me of that guy in that new "Married" sitcom on FX. Every night he asks her if she thinks something on his junk looks normal, and then he asks her if she thinks it would taste strange too lol.

If he doesn't attempt to initiate he'll likely go far longer without sex. He probably is asking and also initiating contact only to be shot down by her over and over again. If anyone shoudl be leaving the marriage it should be him.

Was going to say this myself. If you look at the spreadsheet he asked 28 times in 44 days. Far from every day. That's pretty much what I would expect for a guy in his mid twenties to go for. And as you said, given how little he gets, I would also expect him to ask more often than he normally would, otherwise he'd get even less. So... meh...

Given that his wife took it to reddit expecting support, choosing to focus on the delivery of the message instead of the message itself, I'm thinking she is still refusing to recognize it's a problem. It's all speculation, but I do not expect them to reconcile.
 

Red Storm

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Oct 2, 2005
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Here's how things like that work (from experience):

Night 1: You in the mood?
No.

Night 2: You in the mood?
No

Night 3-5: Skip asking.

Night 6: You in the mood?
No

Night 7-12: Skip asking.

Night 13: Wife complains you never want to be intimate anymore.

Asking "You in the mood?" is definitely not my definition of intimate or trying to be intimate.
 

SagaLore

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Dec 18, 2001
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Here's how things like that work (from experience):

Night 1: You in the mood?
No.

Night 2: You in the mood?
No

Night 3-5: Skip asking.

Night 6: You in the mood?
No

Night 7-12: Skip asking.

Night 13: Wife complains you never want to be intimate anymore.

Yep. I've experienced this. It sucks.
 

BoberFett

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Oct 9, 1999
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The guy asks almost every day too. The wife is probably frustrated with his constant hounding.
He sounds pretty pathetic, and I didn't read the whole story, but I wouldn't blame the wife if she bailed on him. Now she has the support of all her friends too, who are probably looking at the sheet and wondering why she put up with his lost puppy antics for so long.

It reminds me of that guy in that new "Married" sitcom on FX. Every night he asks her if she thinks something on his junk looks normal, and then he asks her if she thinks it would taste strange too lol.
That's just plain stupid. Lost puppy? When a man wants to have sex with his wife he's a lost puppy?
 

WackyDan

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Jan 26, 2004
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Here's how things like that work (from experience):

Night 1: You in the mood?
No.

Night 2: You in the mood?
No

Night 3-5: Skip asking.

Night 6: You in the mood?
No

Night 7-12: Skip asking.

Night 13: Wife complains you never want to be intimate anymore.

From my experience it is yes, sometimes you hint, ask, etc. Other times you cuddle up, rub their back, start kissing them... any number of affectionate advances... and you can still get turned down.
 

Phanuel

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My wife will be 31 this year and I'm really, really looking forward to her hitting her sexual peak in her 30's.

This always makes me laugh. Women's sexual peak was at 19-25, but that peak is barely a hill in their overall sexual activity. They just decided to be less sexual with their partner for a variety of reasons over time. If they were forced to find a new partner they would definitely be extremely sexual all over again.
 
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