Man Sends Wife Spreadsheet Of All Her Excuses Not To Have Sex

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BoberFett

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Sex entitlement is when you think your entitled to a womans body, that you think because your her boyfriend or husband that somehow you have a right to have sex with her, that her body is somehow yours, and you have a right to it. I for one would never force my partner into having sex with me, nor guilt trip her into it, or make her feel bad for not wanting to have sex with me. If there is a problem we would talk it out. Your significant other is not obligated to have sex with you period. But one thing is for certain I don't feel that I am entitled to my wife's body in anyway... and that folks is what sex entitlement is all about. I see too many on here posting in a very "sex entitlement" covert way, and yea that bothers me.

If your are not entitled to your wife's body, then is she free to give it to someone else?

Probably not. So in fact you do claim rights over each other's bodies.
 

KeithTalent

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Man, this thread took a turn for the nauseating. D:

KT
 

BoberFett

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In the sentence right before the one you bolded I said that we do them because they are our significant other and so we love them and love to do those things to/with them. But make no mistake, they are expectations. Because if they aren't, what we are then saying is that it's okay to be cold and distant and mean to your significant other, because they had no right to expect that you would want to hold their hand or sleep in the same bed or have sex on occasion.

This. People like Oldgamer have been blinded by the fucked up new feminism, which isn't about equality but about men begging women to gift us with their graces.

A man can't expect sex, but a woman can expect monogamy, housework, steady employment, child rearing, and everything else a man should be expected to do. Why do women get to have expectations but men don't?
 

JulesMaximus

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I don't understand how reddit threads like this make the news. It's blowing up on my facebook as well. The entire thing might be made up and, even if it isn't, headline: Marriage kills sex. Shocking. (edit: Well, okay, not at 26yo it doesn't).

I think it is unfair to lay the blame on marriage. If I were a bettin' man, and I am, I'd bet that any long term monogamous relationship would kill sex.
 

JulesMaximus

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This. People like Oldgamer have been blinded by the fucked up new feminism, which isn't about equality but about men begging women to gift us with their graces.

A man can't expect sex, but a woman can expect monogamy, housework, steady employment, child rearing, and everything else a man should be expected to do. Why do women get to have expectations but men don't?

WTF are you babbling about?
 

smackababy

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This. People like Oldgamer have been blinded by the fucked up new feminism, which isn't about equality but about men begging women to gift us with their graces.

A man can't expect sex, but a woman can expect monogamy, housework, steady employment, child rearing, and everything else a man should be expected to do. Why do women get to have expectations but men don't?

Because, it isn't about being equal, it is about being 'fair'. One gender got the short end of the stick for awhile, so now, in order to be 'fair' and not equal, the other gender has to assume the short end of the stick haver role. Otherwise, everyone gets to be equal and one side never gets the chance to have the upper hand.
 

nageov3t

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This. People like Oldgamer have been blinded by the fucked up new feminism, which isn't about equality but about men begging women to gift us with their graces.

A man can't expect sex, but a woman can expect monogamy, housework, steady employment, child rearing, and everything else a man should be expected to do. Why do women get to have expectations but men don't?

doesn't the man also expect monogamy, housework, steady employment, and child rearing from his wife?

no one is obligated to have sex with anyone, at any time.

of course, that said, sex is obviously an important part of most relationships... if they're not having sex as frequently as one of them would like, the thing to do is sit down and talk about it (as opposed to constantly badgering your wife for sex and then starting a passive-aggressive spreadsheet when she says no rather than talking about it)
 

JEDIYoda

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Best fishing buddy I ever married. Does your wife go fishing with you? Mine does. BTW..she once gave me permission to see an escort when she was really sick and she couldn't have sex with me. Does your wife do that for you? My wife is one of a kind. I love her dearly. I got lucky in life I really did.
hahahaa...I am very happy for you!! That's what life is!!
 

Blackjack200

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I don't know why everyone keeps saying the spreadsheet is passive agressive. It's not, it's very direct. You could certainly say it's snarky or obnoxious, but it's not passive agressive.
 

nehalem256

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doesn't the man also expect monogamy, housework, steady employment, and child rearing from his wife?

no one is obligated to have sex with anyone, at any time.

of course, that said, sex is obviously an important part of most relationships... if they're not having sex as frequently as one of them would like, the thing to do is sit down and talk about it (as opposed to constantly badgering your wife for sex and then starting a passive-aggressive spreadsheet when she says no rather than talking about it)

Why is sex this one special thing that no one can expect?
 

JEDIYoda

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A man can't expect sex, but a woman can expect monogamy, housework, steady employment, child rearing, and everything else a man should be expected to do. Why do women get to have expectations but men don't?
That's like who do Atheists get to ask the questions to Christians? Yet when a Christian asks an Atheists a question they say -- you cannot disprove something that does not exist...lolololol
 

smackababy

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of course, that said, sex is obviously an important part of most relationships... if they're not having sex as frequently as one of them would like, the thing to do is sit down and talk about it (as opposed to constantly badgering your wife for sex and then starting a passive-aggressive spreadsheet when she says no rather than talking about it)

I am going to go out on a limb here and assume this wasn't the first time lack of sex was brought up. I'm sure there was some disagreement on the actual number of times sex as had and excuses were given. This seems more like a "look, I was right in that argument!" than a real attempt at a solution, which I'm sure will result in the withholding of sex as a punishment, which is beyond stupid.


Sexual expectations are one of the things never talked about or thought of until it is a problem in most cases. When both sides are engaging in a high amount of sexual activity together and one side doesn't actually desire that much, but does it anyway, this is going to cause a rift when the "trying to really impress this person" period cools off. One person in the relationship is going to have set expectations for sexual activity based on what is essentially a lie.
 

Blackjack200

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Why is sex this one special thing that no one can expect?

IMO it should be expected, and if you're not getting it, you have every right to talk about why, and talk about solutions. That doesn't mean it's ever an obligation. We're kind of getting into semantics here.
 

Golgatha

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Is sex every other week THAT infrequent?

I know some married guys that have gone over a year without sex.

It really just depends on the couple. Barring health problems or other extenuating circumstances, that would be grounds for divorce (for both involved parties) in my home. Not bragging, but what's normal for one couple isn't at all normal for another oftentimes.
 

nehalem256

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IMO it should be expected, and if you're not getting it, you have every right to talk about why, and talk about solutions. That doesn't mean it's ever an obligation. We're kind of getting into semantics here.

No I would say it is an obligation for a woman to have sex with her husband. Just like a husband is obligated not to be having sex with other women.

If you don't want to be obligated to have sex with your husband don't get married.
 

Zargon

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doesn't the man also expect monogamy, housework, steady employment, and child rearing from his wife?

no one is obligated to have sex with anyone, at any time.

of course, that said, sex is obviously an important part of most relationships... if they're not having sex as frequently as one of them would like, the thing to do is sit down and talk about it (as opposed to constantly badgering your wife for sex and then starting a passive-aggressive spreadsheet when she says no rather than talking about it)

personally I stop cuddling at bedtime, after a few days the wife begs for some spooning and I let her know how she can get that.....

usually the response is 'omg we haven't had sex since when?"

I cant wait for her to hit her 30's and the kids get older so her drive can ramp back up



also I would so do this, but I would show her IN PERSON not email it to her as shes leaving town, totally sissy move
 

WackyDan

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Yes women like that should not get married but it's also his fault for marrying her. I've never been married but I can't assume that all of a sudden once the ring goes on, their vagina goes dry. There's gotta be long standing reasons for it even before marriage, signs, something but I'm sure most people ignore those which is why the divorce rate is so high which is why I don't want to get married.

My wife and I were having arguments about intimacy less than a year after we got married.

Sorry... But it is called bait and switch. Everyone expects the sex to slow up a bit and I think most everyone accepts that as normal. The reasons why are what is important.
 

BoberFett

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Oct 9, 1999
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doesn't the man also expect monogamy, housework, steady employment, and child rearing from his wife?

no one is obligated to have sex with anyone, at any time.

That's very true. And nobody is obligated to go to work, help with the kids, or clean the house. Of course that kind of sours the relationship. Just like not having sex sours it. Women can choose not to have sex with their husband, they just shouldn't be surprised when he's having sex with someone else.
 
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