Man Sent to Prison for Writing about Fictitious Child Abuse in his Private, UNPUBLISHED Journal...

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Fictitious Accounts Lead to Prison

The Associated Press


COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - A man who wrote in his journal about sexually abusing and torturing children has been sentenced to 10 years in prison, even though the stories were fictitious.

A civil rights lawyer said he was surprised by the sentence Brian Dalton received Tuesday for his private writings.

``What you're saying is somebody can't, in essence, confess their fantasy into a personal journal for fear they have socially unacceptable fantasies, then ultimately they end up getting prosecuted,'' said Benson Wolman, a former director of the American Civil Liberties Union in Ohio.

Franklin County Prosecutor Ron O'Brien called the case a ``breakthrough'' in the battle against child pornography.

Dalton, 22, of Columbus, was charged with pandering obscenity involving a minor after his probation officer found the journal during a routine search of his home. He was on probation from a 1998 pandering conviction involving pornographic photographs of children.

The 14-page journal contains the names and ages - 10 and 11 - of three children it said were placed in a cage in a basement. It details how the children were sexually molested and tortured.

Police at first were concerned the stories were real, prosecutors said. However, Dalton said the stories were fictitious, and there was no evidence to the contrary, said Christian Domis, an assistant county prosecutor.

Still, Dalton was guilty of pandering obscenity because he ``did create, reproduce or publish any obscene material that has a minor as one of its participants or portrayed observers,'' the indictment said.

``Even without passing it on to anyone else, he committed a felony,'' Domis said.

The contents of the journal were so disturbing that members of a grand jury asked a detective to stop reading after about two pages, Domis said.

``It was seriously the most disturbing thing I ever read,'' he said. ``There was a woman on the grand jury who was crying.''

Dalton pleaded guilty, and prosecutors, in exchange, dropped a second pandering charge. He would have faced up to 16 years in prison if convicted of both charges.

``I know what I wrote was disturbing,'' Dalton told Common Pleas Judge Nodine Miller at his sentencing. ``Over the past few months, I looked back at it and realized it was not something I could do. I don't know how I imagined to write anything like that.''

Wolman said he cannot recall an obscenity case involving ``mere words that were not disseminated.'' Dalton said he never intended anyone else to read the journal.

``It is just this kind of thing, I think, that is a misapplication of what the law intends,'' Wolman said.

``The law hasn't really been challenged and he would have had the opportunity to do that,'' defense attorney Isabella Dixon said. ``But the cost to him is a lot of time in jail to challenge it.''
 

GasX

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I agree with the ACLU on this one.

I also think that the guy will get what he deserves in prison - they love child abusers there
 

TheAvenger

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I hate him for doing what he has done, but mabye the journal helped him from doing it again?
 

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If that's the case, then there's a whole handful of songwriters, movie writers, and authors that also need to be placed under lock and key.

At the least, this guy should be seeing a psychologist, not a warden.
 

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Wow, that is the most sickening thing I have ever read, on many levels. How can someone write that kind of garbage?! How can someone be imprisoned for something that they privately wrote, and was not meant for anyone else?!
 

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At the least, this guy should be seeing a psychologist, not a warden.

Exactly! Good call.

Only in Ohio.:disgust:
 

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He was on probation from a 1998 pandering conviction involving pornographic photographs of children.


Maybe a few of you missed that line. He is obviously a twisted little piece of crap and I'm glad that he's in prison. There's no way that he would NOT have acted out those twisted stories in due time.

 

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Maybe he would have acted on the stories, but are we going to start arresting people based on what they MIGHT do? I don't say this often but.....I agree with the ACLU on this one.
 

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<< He was on probation from a 1998 pandering conviction involving pornographic photographs of children.


Maybe a few of you missed that line. He is obviously a twisted little piece of crap and I'm glad that he's in prison. There's no way that he would NOT have acted out those twisted stories in due time.
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It's a sad day when we imprison someone for something we fear they MIGHT do.
 

GasX

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PG - what crime did he commit?

I agree he is a sick F, but we all have our pecadillos.

As I said before, I am with the ACLU on this one. I don't feel bad for the guy at all, but I don't like seeing the government abuse its power and usurp the rights of its citizens.
 

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While a part of me is glad to see him locked up because of what he is, I think this may have been a questionable judgement call legally.

Should we forbid writing this kind of thing _period_, whether someone sees it or not? Should the very act of creating writings like that be a crime? A significant part of me says yes...


 

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What were the specifics on his probation? Perhaps somehow he violated part of his probation rules.
 

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<< Dalton pleaded guilty, and prosecutors, in exchange, dropped a second pandering charge. He would have faced up to 16 years in prison if convicted of both charges. >>



Okay, what was the second charge? It is very possible, folks, that he was back in the picture trading business, and took the rap for the ?lesser? crime to save being gang raped in prison. We do not know what the other charge was; but in my mind it does not matter?at least this guy is back in jail where he belongs.

It has been proven time and again that these kinds of monsters are never completely ?cured? of their illness. As the father of two little girls, I say fsck the ACLU. This guy needs to stay locked away forever.
The hundreds of web sites out there that contain stories like his also concern parents. Maybe they serve a purpose; maybe they keep men from molesting kids?but maybe they also spur them into doing something that they would normally not consider. I say, offer all of their anuses up to the general prison population!
 

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What were the specifics on his probation? Perhaps somehow he violated part of his probation rules.

You must not have read the whole first post for this thread.

Still, Dalton was guilty of pandering obscenity because he ``did create, reproduce or publish any obscene material that has a minor as one of its participants or portrayed observers,'' the indictment said.

``Even without passing it on to anyone else, he committed a felony,'' Domis said.



It's a sad day when we imprison someone for something we fear they MIGHT do.

You have a good point, but I don't see this situation that way. He HAS done some nasty things in the past and it's pretty obvious that he will continue to do so. He might have changed the specifics of what he was doing, but not the overall theme of his acts. He obviously can't get little children off his mind. He is a real threat to children, and maybe even adults who get in his way or threaten his way of life.
I wonder how many ACLU members with children would like to have him as a neighbor?
 

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i am usually on the government's side when these paranoid wackos start talking about how they're trying to &quot;steal our rights&quot; but in this case i think the law is in the wrong...

obviously this guy in particular is f'd up and that's why he was convicted, but I'm wondering what kind of precedent this sets? how much of the music/writing made today can be construed by the easily-offended as obscene?

i think the reason he was convicted was because it had to do with minors... if he wrote about raping women he'd probably be free... but it's good for the public that he's in jail... but then again it wouldn't be great for the public if a free man was going around writing about raping women...
 

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He HAS done some nasty things in the past and it's pretty obvious that he will continue to do so. He might have changed the specifics of what he was doing, but not the overall theme of his acts. He obviously can't get little children off his mind. He is a real threat to children, and maybe even adults who get in his way or threaten his way of life.

The law specifies punishments for crimes and he paid his debt. Now they're saying you *might* do it again, time to go to jail. If the guy is a threat then he shouldn't have been let back on the streets after his first crimes, right?
 

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Sounds like the thought police if you ask me. So, he went one step further and wrote his thoughts in a private journal, this is criminal? I don't buy it.

Change the subject matter to something a little less inflamatory but still illegal, say robbing a bank, and see if you hold the same opinion. People have all sorts of bizarre thoughts and fantasies but most also have a conscience to keep them from acting. You can't lock people up for what you think they might do.


 

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Someone refresh my memory...

Wasn't everyone up in arms about the monster who was released from a psych ward and then went on to EAT a 10 year old boy?

What was it you guys thought about that? I can't remember, can someone find the thread for me?

If I recall correctly, the debate was about just who was responsible for letting such a monster be free in society. Who's fault was it again?

Personally, I don't think there are any easy answers, but I would rather be safe than sorry when it comes to these types of psychopaths.
 

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Without knowing all the facts, I can only assume that he in some way violated his conditions of probation. Even though this guy has major problems, if it were his first offense I don't think the punishment would have been nearly as harsh as it was.
 

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Think of a country or state where its goverment controls what you think and will jails you for any &quot;impure&quot; thought. Want to live there?
 

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<< Someone refresh my memory...

Wasn't everyone up in arms about the monster who was released from a psych ward and then went on to EAT a 10 year old boy?

What was it you guys thought about that? I can't remember, can someone find the thread for me?

If I recall correctly, the debate was about just who was responsible for letting such a monster be free in society. Who's fault was it again?

Personally, I don't think there are any easy answers, but I would rather be safe than sorry when it comes to these types of psychopaths.
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Until someone considers YOUR private thoughts psychopathic, right?

The man has never been convicted of child sexual abuse folks. The article makes that clear. If he had been caught molesting little kids, I'd be the FIRST to scream &quot;fry him!.&quot; However, he merely has fantasies about it, and was once convicted for trading kiddie porn with others. Now he's been convicted for merely THINKING about it, and writing it in his private UNPUBLISHED diary.

Freedom is not measured on how free popular ideas or people are. It is measured by how free UNPOPULAR ideas and people are. Since when is merely THINKING of a crime -- a crime in and of itself?

If YOU are willing to bend the rules and throw away this guy's freedom because his thoughts and ideas disgust you, what happens when YOUR thoughts and ideas become unpopular?
 

BDawg

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Reminds me of a quote from one of out founding fathers.



<< They that can give up liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. >>



-Benjamin Franklin
 
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