Man tasered at a golf tournament?! What is the world coming too?

Mike Gayner

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Why would they need to tase him if he isn't being violent? Are cops over there really this incompetent?
 

PhoKingGuy

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Why would they need to tase him if he isn't being violent? Are cops over there really this incompetent?

They can't use billy clubs and they cant physically restrain him, what else are they supposed to do? Dog tackle the sumbitch?
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I think this is a great idea. Randomly tasering people in the peanut gallery would definitely make the most boring game on the planet more interesting.
 

cheezy321

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I dont get what the big deal with using tasers is.

If you are being a jackass, you deserve to get tased.
 

olds

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I dont get what the big deal with using tasers is.

If you are being a jackass, you deserve to get tased.
It's popular to rail against it. All the cool kids are doing it.
Personally, I'd rather be tased than struck with a baton or flashlight.
 

ProfJohn

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The taser is probably the best innovation in the history of police work.

It allows the police to take down someone who is putting up a fight without risk of harm to the officers and, generally, to the person being taken down.

Prior to the taser the police would have had to gang tackle the guy or knock him around with a club a few times.

Now they just zap you and throw you in handcuffs and drag you away, much safer for everyone.
 

KaOTiK

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The taser is probably the best innovation in the history of police work.

It allows the police to take down someone who is putting up a fight without risk of harm to the officers and, generally, to the person being taken down.

Prior to the taser the police would have had to gang tackle the guy or knock him around with a club a few times.

Now they just zap you and throw you in handcuffs and drag you away, much safer for everyone.

Plus it is funny watching someone get tasered.
 

Matthiasa

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It's popular to rail against it. All the cool kids are doing it.
Personally, I'd rather be tased than struck with a baton or flashlight.

Yeah but apparently most people would rather be beaten, with potential damage to joints as well.

Though maybe its just because im use to using electricity... though sometimes with not so pleasant results.

Accidentally shorting 110-120V was bad and sent molten copper everywhere.
 

Fingolfin269

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Feb 28, 2003
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If you don't want to get tazed then don't get drunk and disorderly. Simple fact: You will get tazed. You can cry about people getting tazed but it is not going to change. How about instead of crying about people getting tazed you point the finger at the people acting like asses. Seems like they know they're going to get tazed and that's why they keep acting asses.
 

shortylickens

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Jul 15, 2003
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For the first time I finally sat down and watched the full "Dont Tase Me Bro!" video.
At first it was kind of funny. Then it got scary. The guy really didnt do anything to deserve a forced removal of any kind, especially not submission. Also saddened that all the courts backed up the police/security in that situation.
 

Arkaign

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Oct 27, 2006
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If you don't want to get tazed then don't get drunk and disorderly. Simple fact: You will get tazed. You can cry about people getting tazed but it is not going to change. How about instead of crying about people getting tazed you point the finger at the people acting like asses. Seems like they know they're going to get tazed and that's why they keep acting asses.

Yeah, because cops are always right and will never abuse authority.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/dec/18/ukcrime.commentisfree

http://www.comcast.net/video/raw-video-deputy-shown-kicking-girl/1047991078/

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/23144420/

Cops are people too, and I agree it's unwise to challenge authority, but come on. The rapidly rising use of tasers is not coinciding with a fall in deaths and injuries, it's just a good tool that is being overused, on subjects and in situations where it's utterly unnecessary. How did police ever do their jobs without tasers? I've seen cops take plenty of people into custody, even those moderately resisting, without the use of tasers, batons, guns, or even strikes. Of course, those are properly trained, fit, and mentally balanced officers (the majority of officers imho).
 

Bignate603

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For the first time I finally sat down and watched the full "Dont Tase Me Bro!" video.
At first it was kind of funny. Then it got scary. The guy really didnt do anything to deserve a forced removal of any kind, especially not submission. Also saddened that all the courts backed up the police/security in that situation.

They guy was disrupting the meeting and did things before the video even started. Here's the description from wikipedia (it has a ton of references if you want to look at it somewhere else than wikipedia) of what he did that didn't make it onto youtube.

According to eyewitness and police reports, the widely circulated video of the confrontation captured on Meyer's camera was not the first interaction between police and Meyer at the event that day. According to reports, Meyer was in line for access to the microphone, when it was announced by former Ambassador Dennis Jett, a University of Florida political science instructor and the forum's moderator,[7] that one more question would be taken from the microphone on the right as seen from the stage. Meyer then grabbed the second microphone, on the left, which had been shut off, and loudly demanded he be allowed to ask a question. Meyer reportedly yelled, "Why don't you answer my questions, I have been waiting and listening to you speak in circles for the last two hours." "These officers are going to arrest me", "You will take my question because I have been listening to your crap for two hours".[8] When an officer intervened, attempted to cut Meyer off, and attempted to escort Meyer out of the hall, Meyer then broke away and continued to shout. Kerry then intervened and requested that Meyer be allowed to ask a question. Meyer was then brought back to the microphone with police officers on either side of him.[9]

So he already grabbed the microphone against the instructions of the person moderating the discussion, insulted the speaker, and tried to evade an officer that was trying to escort him from the room. The video on the internet only cuts in after all of that. When he started becoming agitated during his question they decided that was enough and it was time to take him out of the room. Personally, I think that when he started running around and yelling they should have dragged him out right then and there.
 

olds

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.. How did police ever do their jobs without tasers? I've seen cops take plenty of people into custody, even those moderately resisting, without the use of tasers, batons, guns, or even strikes. ...
I agree that they may be overused at times but there is abuse in any field, any where, any time.
Back when cops had to fight resistors, cops and the person being arrested were getting injured. Medical and work comp claims were the result. People were up in arms because 6 cops would jump on one guy in an attempt to subdue him without any injuries to him or the cops. Of course when you resist, force must be applied to make you comply.
With a taser, one person can deploy it and the only one being hurt (and not suffering any lingering injuries like broken bones) is the guy who started the problems. No medical or comp claims. While I haven't heard so, it may have reduced claims for excessive force.

Yes it gets abused. But deal with the abusers, not the technology.

So get your ass kicked and get marked/broken up or get tased. I'd rather get tased.
 

XZeroII

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Yeah, because cops are always right and will never abuse authority.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/dec/18/ukcrime.commentisfree

http://www.comcast.net/video/raw-video-deputy-shown-kicking-girl/1047991078/

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/23144420/

Cops are people too, and I agree it's unwise to challenge authority, but come on. The rapidly rising use of tasers is not coinciding with a fall in deaths and injuries, it's just a good tool that is being overused, on subjects and in situations where it's utterly unnecessary. How did police ever do their jobs without tasers? I've seen cops take plenty of people into custody, even those moderately resisting, without the use of tasers, batons, guns, or even strikes. Of course, those are properly trained, fit, and mentally balanced officers (the majority of officers imho).

Here's a tip, take a class and learn what it's like to be in an officer's shoes. Then come back and tell me that you would want to get into a one on one physical struggle with a baddie. Why would you put yourself in danger (serious danger) when you have the tools available to limit harm to yourself? You don't know if someone is going to come running at you with their fists flying. You don't know if they are super strong. You don't know if they are trained in martial arts. You don't know if they are on drugs or medication. All you know is that they are not cooporating and acting crazy. Would you really just try to restrain them with your own two hands???

I would rather the guy who is not cooporating take the punishment and we protect the people who are trying to protect us. Of course there are officers who abuse their power and there will always be cases where this stuff is misused but those cases are by far the minority. Most of the time, using these tools is a good thing.
 

Arkaign

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I agree that they may be overused at times but there is abuse in any field, any where, any time.
Back when cops had to fight resistors, cops and the person being arrested were getting injured. Medical and work comp claims were the result. People were up in arms because 6 cops would jump on one guy in an attempt to subdue him without any injuries to him or the cops. Of course when you resist, force must be applied to make you comply.
With a taser, one person can deploy it and the only one being hurt (and not suffering any lingering injuries like broken bones) is the guy who started the problems. No medical or comp claims. While I haven't heard so, it may have reduced claims for excessive force.

Yes it gets abused. But deal with the abusers, not the technology.

So get your ass kicked and get marked/broken up or get tased. I'd rather get tased.

I can't disagree with what you say here, it's definitely a situation where the tool isn't really to blame, it's the abusers of the tool. Unfortunately for everyone, cops never seem very good at policing themselves, it'd be a lot better if they didn't throw up the blue wall every time some dumbass does something that makes them look bad by association.

Tasers are actually pretty dangerous though, and can really fuck people up even when it's not the intention whatsoever. Check this video out :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fizo-sOSE6o&feature=fvw

Yes, the girl was being a punk, but she's 14 and looks like she's built like a toothpick. Is it honestly necessary to shoot her in the head with a taser? Note the damage to her skull, crazy ass shit.
 

Arkaign

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Oct 27, 2006
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Here's a tip, take a class and learn what it's like to be in an officer's shoes. Then come back and tell me that you would want to get into a one on one physical struggle with a baddie. Why would you put yourself in danger (serious danger) when you have the tools available to limit harm to yourself? You don't know if someone is going to come running at you with their fists flying. You don't know if they are super strong. You don't know if they are trained in martial arts. You don't know if they are on drugs or medication. All you know is that they are not cooporating and acting crazy. Would you really just try to restrain them with your own two hands???

I would rather the guy who is not cooporating take the punishment and we protect the people who are trying to protect us. Of course there are officers who abuse their power and there will always be cases where this stuff is misused but those cases are by far the minority. Most of the time, using these tools is a good thing.

I hear ya, I was a doorman/security for a nightclub for about a year in my early 20s, and had plenty of run-ins with drunk/high nutjobs (I have a scar in my eyebrow from someone throwing a brick at my head after being kicked out for shooting up in the bathroom).

With the situations where someone is legitimately a threat, presents a violent or physical resistance, then you use whatever tool is adequate to the task. I have no problem with that. It's when you start using tasers or beatings on weak or nonviolent people that it drives me up the wall.

For the record, I still believe that most officers aren't at all like that. I've only met one officer in person that was a real DB, the rest were highly competent and level-headed professionals. At least 2-3 times a month, some fool or another would get his ass arrested at or outside of the club, and I never saw an officer use excessive force or even have to use a taser.
 

Tristicus

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I can't disagree with what you say here, it's definitely a situation where the tool isn't really to blame, it's the abusers of the tool. Unfortunately for everyone, cops never seem very good at policing themselves, it'd be a lot better if they didn't throw up the blue wall every time some dumbass does something that makes them look bad by association.

Tasers are actually pretty dangerous though, and can really fuck people up even when it's not the intention whatsoever. Check this video out :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fizo-sOSE6o&feature=fvw

Yes, the girl was being a punk, but she's 14 and looks like she's built like a toothpick. Is it honestly necessary to shoot her in the head with a taser? Note the damage to her skull, crazy ass shit.

So would it have been better to strike her with a baton?
 
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