Oh God, a gun nut!Why that? I'd be surprised if there's a .22 though. Its just not manly enough.
I love shooting .22 but that is probably cause I am a noob. The signal to noise ratio is so much better than the higher calibers when working on your form.
Why that? I'd be surprised if there's a .22 though. Its just not manly enough.
I love shooting .22 but that is probably cause I am a noob. The signal to noise ratio is so much better than the higher calibers when working on your form.
That's a really bad straw man. Like really really bad. What if he had ignored the guy and he got hit by a meteor instead? But it missed him because the asshat performed a dumbass citizens arrest and got shot then killed a guy in front of another human who he also shot.GTA 5 taught me it do be like that.
Let me paint you a different picture than the one being repeatedly painted in this thread. You let him steal the truck and report it stolen. The cops see him in traffic, run the tags, go for the arrest. The perp, you know the guy that pulled a gun and shot the owner, yeah, that guy. Makes different but equally reckless decisions, a police chase ensues. He plows through a car carrying kids to their soccer game. (since some of you have already played the "won't someone please think of the children!" card) Or a pregnant woman. Or he plows through multiple vehicles injuring or even killing multiple victims. Or he shoots some of the cops, other motorist, pedestrians. The list goes on. We are playing what if? and the list of answers to that question are nearly endless.
The potential for chaos and carnage isn't constrained to the scenario that played out, and what could have gone wrong but didn't. Until the laws change, what the guy did was kosher. You don't have to like or agree with it. My contention is that failure to consider the alternative of allowing the police you pay taxes for to handle it, could have had even worse results. Making any what if? argument silly IMO.
As to the dumbass questions about how do you know he was even the guy that stole the truck? Who gives a shit. He was guy willing to shoot and kill the owner instead of waiting for LEOs and working it out that way.
And come at me however you want in response. I am not budging from my position and neither are you. Ain't P&N grand?
Answer - because he has his metal penisAside from the above, don't like all vehicles come with two keys now? Why not just take the second key and 'steal' it back if he knew where it was? Why the confrontation? Flatten the tires, take the battery, cut the tail lights so he gets pulled over. Literally a hundred things you could do other than pull out a goddamned gun on a stranger who you know at minimum is a criminal.
That reads like you are suffering cognitive dissonance. But actually understand what you mean, being a fellow Florida man. It'll be the hurricanes that chase me out, not the crazy they put in the water here. I am a future climate refugee.
I disagree. It wasn’t that he had it, but that he had it while because he lacking the judgement only to only use it to defend his life instead of property that was not necessary for his own survival.Answer - because he has his metal penis
Unless its a meth addict, its not gonna be a 22 .. call me nostradumbass .Well most criminals get whatever is available off the street.
The truck owner on the other hand probably did a great deal of research and likely practiced with his weapon.
So I'm quite curious what the two sides were armed with.
Agree. This is basically vigilantism. I don't think people should be taking the work of the police into their own hands. It can end very very poorly with innocents being involved.I'm against vigilante justice because this could have just as easily ended with the truck owner dead.
I'm not telling you I have all the answers. I just don't think this was worth anyone dying over.
How did the truck owner know the person driving his truck was the thief who stole it before holding him and his GF at gunpoint?Man Tracks Down His Stolen Truck, Kills Alleged Thief In Gunfight Outside Mall
The confrontation also left the truck owner and a woman passenger with gunshot wounds.www.huffpost.com
A Texas man whose truck was stolen tracked it down and confronted the suspected thief, killing him in a public shootout on Thursday, police said.
The owner of the Ford truck found it at the South Park Mall in San Antonio and confronted the man who had been driving it and a woman passenger, demanding at gunpoint they get out of the vehicle, Police Chief William McManus said at a press briefing.
The owner then called the police and made the two sit on the ground beside the truck’s tire to wait, but the man pulled his gun and fired at the truck’s owner, injuring him, police said.
The truck’s owner then returned fire, killing the man in the parking lot and injuring the woman, police said.
“The bad guy is the one dead, yes,” McManus told reporters. “The driver of the stolen vehicle is deceased, shot by the owner of the stolen vehicle.”
Police said the truck owner and the woman passenger were taken to the hospital with gunshot wounds. The woman is in critical condition, and the truck owner is in stable condition.
Give this guy a medal.. and a reward of something meaningful like no taxes for 5 years for removing criminals and their girlfriends for free.. doing tax payers a service and using his 2nd amendment rights responsibly!
Like this is a perfect case.. no innocents hurt.. criminal dead, victim gets his car back!
The hell it doesn't...we're WAY too soft on crime in this country.
(this coming from someone with a lengthy felony record)
The thief wasn't killed because he stole the truck...he was killed because he shot the truck's owner who was trying to retrieve his vehicle and restrain the thief for the cops.
Lol come to Canada. We’re even more lenient on sentencing.How is the country with greatest percentage population of people incarcerated "soft on crime"?
How does that work out?
Soft on crime for some is a gift they may apply having tasted bad consequences and said to themselves that's enough of that. Others will see it as a sign of weakness in the law and take advantage of it. Hard on crime will mean that some will kill every possible witness to their crime to keep from being caught and the same when there is an attempt to apprehend them. Others will live a life full of lust and hatred for others but act out only when they sense it's safe to do so.Lol come to Canada. We’re even more lenient on sentencing.
I'm anti-crime, but grand theft auto does not deserve a death sentence.
Cops are useless in Texas. Did you not see like 400 of them just stand around in the parking lot for an hour while elementary school children were being mowed down in Uvalde? Got no problem with dude going back and getting his truck and then killing the pos who shot at him. The police in Texas don't give a shit about anything that doesn't make them money.I am delighted this sort of thing is literally impossible in my town.
There is no chance I would be caught by any random stray bullets from this type of stupidity.
Oh, yea, the truck could get stolen. And yea, the owner could have chased the theft down. But at that point that would be the end of it. The owner would have stayed* in their vechile and called the cops. And the cops would have ended the situation in a trained and proper manner. Which most likely would have ended in the peaceful surrender of the suspect and nobody being seriously injured.
But even if it went the other way, it still would not have been a shoot out. I have seen the Palm Springs Police designated marksmen. The whole uncontrolled spraying of bullets by two factions and wounding of the girl friend would not have happened. The situation would still have been controlled and the general public not put in danger.
*because this is the golden state of California, and going vigilante is just going to get said vigilante locked up right next to the idiot who stole vigilante's truck, exactly where he belongs
Here's my problem with this. The cops out here don't give a shit about a stolen truck, or really anything not involving drugs since they can't seize property to auction by doing any kind of service for the people. And a vehicle is pretty much a necessity to work out here since we don't have any kind of reasonable public transportation system. People are struggling because this nation doesn't give a shit about us and our wages are stagnant while everything important in this nation, from housing to healthcare to education to vehicles to groceries has shot up like a rocket in price in the last 25 years. Like 60% of the nation can't handle a $400 surprise expense. So how are we supposed to be able to handle losing a vehicle? A vehicle that's once again necessary for the right to work and exist because of the United States' toxic car culture. If some asshole steals my car and I know where it's at I'm taking it back and if the robber pulls a gun on me he's getting a hollow point to the chest if he doesn't kill me first. Because I know damn well the SAPD isn't going to be useful.Stealing a car does not get a death sentence. No one needed to die (or even be injured).
Fuck this guy.
If citizens in TX have no choice but to take the law into their own hands, then the real impediment to law and order there is the police.Cops are useless in Texas. Did you not see like 400 of them just stand around in the parking lot for an hour while elementary school children were being mowed down in Uvalde? Got no problem with dude going back and getting his truck and then killing the pos who shot at him. The police in Texas don't give a shit about anything that doesn't make them money.
Here's my problem with this. The cops out here don't give a shit about a stolen truck, or really anything not involving drugs since they can't seize property to auction by doing any kind of service for the people. And a vehicle is pretty much a necessity to work out here since we don't have any kind of reasonable public transportation system. People are struggling because this nation doesn't give a shit about us and our wages are stagnant while everything important in this nation, from housing to healthcare to education to vehicles to groceries has shot up like a rocket in price in the last 25 years. Like 60% of the nation can't handle a $400 surprise expense. So how are we supposed to be able to handle losing a vehicle? A vehicle that's once again necessary for the right to work and exist because of the United States' toxic car culture. If some asshole steals my car and I know where it's at I'm taking it back and if the robber pulls a gun on me he's getting a hollow point to the chest if he doesn't kill me first. Because I know damn well the SAPD isn't going to be useful.