Manafort jury has reached a verdict

NAC4EV

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Guilty on 8 counts.. 5 of them Tax Crimes. 1 bank fraud
Probably would have been more, had the Prosecution been allowed to present all the info during the trial and had they been able to tag the evidence to the charge..

Question is: will he receive a presidential pardon.
 

cytg111

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What was Manafort charged with? Bankfraud? Taxfraud? Cohen? Cohen just named him as directing him to commit campaign finance violation.. To begin issuing pardons for finance related would be .................................. and thats exactly why he is doing it... Expect incoming pardons for everyone... Holy shit.
 

BUTCH1

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What was Manafort charged with? Bankfraud? Taxfraud? Cohen? Cohen just named him as directing him to commit campaign finance violation.. To begin issuing pardons for finance related would be .................................. and thats exactly why he is doing it... Expect incoming pardons for everyone... Holy shit.
I don't think Trump could possibly pardon Cohen for a crime HE directed him to do but then again he might just try anyway. With the existing tapes to back his claim up it would be literally impossible to claim "I didn't know". Also throw in the McDougal $150K payment as well and this will defiantly end badly for Trump. Maybe someone can convince Pence to stop these tariff wars before the economy is completely wrecked.
 

cytg111

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I don't think Trump could possibly pardon Cohen for a crime HE directed him to do but then again he might just try anyway. With the existing tapes to back his claim up it would be literally impossible to claim "I didn't know". Also throw in the McDougal $150K payment as well and this will defiantly end badly for Trump. Maybe someone can convince Pence to stop these tariff wars before the economy is completely wrecked.

I think he'll just yell email server and do it anyway
 

BUTCH1

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I think he'll just yell email server and do it anyway
LOL, yea, color me not surprised if he does that. Oh, wait, Manafort STILL has to face even more serious charges in yet another upcoming trial, hmm, I wonder if he cries "uncle" before that one even gets rolling and spews what he knows to Mueller.
 

K1052

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Hm...life in prison or looking over your shoulder (or in your soup with a Geiger counter) forever. Decisions decisions.
 

cytg111

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Hm...life in prison or looking over your shoulder (or in your soup with a Geiger counter) forever. Decisions decisions.
Yea, plus that little incident in GB not too far back... great message, we will get you AND your children.. So by the off chance that Manafort isnt a fullblown sociopath he has that to think about too.
 

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I'm reading two counts of bank fraud with a max of 30 years each and 5 tax fraud with a max of 5 years per.

The judge won't hit with any more than the minimun, or close to it.


The real fun comes in the next trial with a judge who isn't going to sabotage the trial.
 

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I'm reading two counts of bank fraud with a max of 30 years each and 5 tax fraud with a max of 5 years.

The judge won't hit with any more than the minimun, or close to it.


The real fun comes in the next trial with a judge who isn't going to sabotage the trial.

Even minimal sentences per count are going to add up and that's before the gov decides to retry him on the mistrial counts. Though the DC trial looks deadly serious since it also includes the witness tampering charges which they have him dead to rights on.
 

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Jhhnn

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I'm reading two counts of bank fraud with a max of 30 years each and 5 tax fraud with a max of 5 years per.

The judge won't hit with any more than the minimun, or close to it.


The real fun comes in the next trial with a judge who isn't going to sabotage the trial.

Why you gotta be that way? Barring successful appeal or pardon, Manafort will likely never see daylight again unless he lives to be 100. It's close enough for gubmint work...
 

Indus

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Adding it up in my head, Manafort could get 80 years if these numbers are accurate-

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/15/what-charges-does-paul-manafort-face.html

If Trump is forced to resign before he gets a pardon he's really screwed...

Trump won't resign.

He can't be indicted for anything as long as he's a SITTING President. That alone is his motivation to hang on to POTUS for as long as he can no matter what happens around him.

The people around him are well and truly fucked though as if he pardons them he invites impeachment, so he'll just look after his own skin and try to ride everything out as the current POTUS status as a forcefield that protects him.
 

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The people around him are well and truly fucked though as if he pardons them he invites impeachment, so he'll just look after his own skin and try to ride everything out as the current POTUS status as a forcefield that protects him.

Yeah. Trump cares most about himself and then his crime family. He won't want to waste that on Manafort or Cohen.
 

Jhhnn

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Manafort's only plausible way out is to cooperate with Mueller. A pardon won't matter, since state charges could be pulled up. Cohen I believe would have the same issue.

The only thing he might get out of Mueller at this point is likely choice of facility for the rest of his life.
 
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Jhhnn

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Yeah. Trump cares most about himself and then his crime family. He won't want to waste that on Manafort or Cohen.

Cohen is already a rat. Trump won't give him the sweat off his balls. Manafort is doing the standup guy routine & praying for a pardon.
 

Jhhnn

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Trump won't resign.

He can't be indicted for anything as long as he's a SITTING President. That alone is his motivation to hang on to POTUS for as long as he can no matter what happens around him.

The people around him are well and truly fucked though as if he pardons them he invites impeachment, so he'll just look after his own skin and try to ride everything out as the current POTUS status as a forcefield that protects him.

A blanket pardon from Pence would protect him forever.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Why you gotta be that way? Barring successful appeal or pardon, Manafort will likely never see daylight again unless he lives to be 100. It's close enough for gubmint work...
I'm feeling like Dave these days to a degree. I expect Trump and the Reps to find a way to weasle out of things. I hope I'm wrong, but until that man is escorted from the WH I won't put anything past these reprehensables.
 
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