Managed Switches.

[BigFatCow]

Whats the difference between a managed switch and an unmanaged switch?

 

[LBM1A]

Lots of $$$$

In a nutshell...

Managed Switch is User Configured for traffic prioritization.

UnManaged is non-configurable.. Pretty much a hub but with better traffic prioritization..

LB

 

[bozo1]

Managed switches give you many features. VLANs, SNMP support just to name two.

 

[Goosemaster]

whaa...you want a price?

Check out ebay for decent prices. Search for 'Allied telesyn'

Once again, managed switches let you configure traffic en route, or after it's le4ft your pc.


Vlaning, QoS/traffic shaping, port blocking etc.....

 

[BigFatCow]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
whaa...you want a price?

Check out ebay for decent prices. Search for 'Allied telesyn'

Once again, managed switches let you configure traffic en route, or after it's le4ft your pc.


Vlaning, QoS/traffic shaping, port blocking etc.....

is a managed switch sort of like a router?

btw, this switch is going to be used for a small business.

 

[fargus]

If you're just hooking a few machines together for file and print, and internet sharing, an unmanaged switch will be fine. Managed switches are nice if you need to set up separate "virtual" networks that can't see each other for security purposes, and also if you need to track usage and other network management statistics. No, it's not a router. You can hang it behind your router to add more ports. A router connects different networks, a switch connects stations on the same network.

 

[Kadarin]

Depends on what you mean by "managed". My understanding is that "managed" means you can use an snmp based network tool to monitor and/or configure the device.

As yourself what you need in a switch, and whether those needs will be satisfied with a generic nonconfigurable device, or whether you need advanced features such as port or protocol based vlans, snmp, QoS, rate-limiting, etc...

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Depends on what you mean by "managed". My understanding is that "managed" means you can use an snmp based network tool to monitor and/or configure the device.

As yourself what you need in a switch, and whether those needs will be satisfied with a generic nonconfigurable device, or whether you need advanced features such as port or protocol based vlans, snmp, QoS, rate-limiting, etc...

You have the right of it here. In order to support Vlans, however, the switch has to be Layer 3 (router) capable. Most of the higher end switches charge a little extra for that capability.

 

[Genx87]

You can pick up a cisco 1900 for about 130-150 bucks on ebay. They are managed switches. But be warned they are only 10mbps.

 

[Goosemaster]

My advice from what you've posted:

Depending on how many clients, get an 8port to 32port UNMAGED SWITCH. Plug the uplink port in to any router.

 

[SaigonK]

Go find yourself a Nortel 450BS (Baystack) a great 24 port 10/100 managed switch that accepts Gig MDA's.
Ebay has them for pennies on the dollar nowadays and they are rock solid, I have over 100 of them and not a problem to date!



Also you dont have to be Layer-3 for VLAN's to owrk, Im not sure why you would think that.
Also QOS can be done on layer 2 switches, but it is basic at best.

 

[BigFatCow]

Originally posted by: Genx87
You can pick up a cisco 1900 for about 130-150 bucks on ebay. They are managed switches. But be warned they are only 10mbps.

thanks for the recommendation, but the switch needs to be a 10/100 with at least 2 gigabit ports.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: ITJunkie

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Depends on what you mean by "managed". My understanding is that "managed" means you can use an snmp based network tool to monitor and/or configure the device.

As yourself what you need in a switch, and whether those needs will be satisfied with a generic nonconfigurable device, or whether you need advanced features such as port or protocol based vlans, snmp, QoS, rate-limiting, etc...

You have the right of it here. In order to support Vlans, however, the switch has to be Layer 3 (router) capable. Most of the higher end switches charge a little extra for that capability.

Not always true. For example, the Foundry FastIron Workgroup Switch (24 10/100BASE-T ports, up to 2 gigabit uplink ports) has the ability to configure Layer 2 port-based vlans without using Layer 3 code. You just can't assign virtual interfaces to the configured vlans. (The device has the option of running (very) limited Layer 3 code, however, but that's independent of the vlan capability.)

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: ITJunkie

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Depends on what you mean by "managed". My understanding is that "managed" means you can use an snmp based network tool to monitor and/or configure the device.

As yourself what you need in a switch, and whether those needs will be satisfied with a generic nonconfigurable device, or whether you need advanced features such as port or protocol based vlans, snmp, QoS, rate-limiting, etc...

You have the right of it here. In order to support Vlans, however, the switch has to be Layer 3 (router) capable. Most of the higher end switches charge a little extra for that capability.

Not always true. For example, the Foundry FastIron Workgroup Switch (24 10/100BASE-T ports, up to 2 gigabit uplink ports) has the ability to configure Layer 2 port-based vlans without using Layer 3 code. You just can't assign virtual interfaces to the configured vlans. (The device has the option of running (very) limited Layer 3 code, however, but that's independent of the vlan capability.)

Thanks for the clarification ppl. I was thinking in terms of IP based VLans and overlooked port based VLans