Rights can be restricted, freedom of speech has restrictions, voting has restrictions, and guns have restrictions. The difference between those rights are the types of restrictions allowed and voting has quite a few restrictions on how that right can be restricted. The requiring of an ID to vote isn't the problem, it's having to pay for an ID that is the issue. Paying for something in order to vote is considered a poll tax and that is specifically forbidden by the constitution, there is no equivalent rule for bearing arms nor is there an equivlent rule for freedom of speech.
Making it harder/more expensive to own guns is no different than the republicans making it harder to have abortions.
Nope, they don't.It's close in human live and they predict by 2015 more deaths will be from guns then cars.
In 2010 the fatalities by cars were 32,885 and the total deaths from guns were 30,470.
As cars get safer guns get deadlier.
sp how is an additional tax on a firearm or a tax on ammo for mandatory training (which some ppl have proposed)...hell, even the background check fee you can argue to an extent..how are those not equivalent to a poll tax in exercising the right to own a firearm?
While I'm no fan of insurance companies, the plain reality is that owning a gun makes injury or death from a gun significantly more likely to the individual and their family. Article here. And there are costs that would likely be passed on to society at large due to those outcomes. It seems responsible for gun owners to all contribute to a pool to cover those costs.
I do not see insurance as an infringement on the right to own a gun, but I admit to not having interest in owning one either, so I expect my opinion will be discounted or outright ignored.
Instead of being dishonest with your numbers, you should mention that only 11,000 of those gun deaths were homicides. The rest were suicides. Suicide by car isn't very popular, but people can commit suicide in large numbers even in countries without guns (Japan).In 2010 the fatalities by cars were 32,885 and the total deaths from guns were 30,470.
Forbes has recently published an article about New York Congressman Steve Israel’s promise to ban 3D printed high capacity ammunition magazines. The congressman’s comments come after Defense Distributed, an open source DIY gunsmith group working to manufacture both guns and their accessories using 3D printing technology, successfully printed and tested a 30-round AR-15 magazine.
Congressman Israel stated:
“Background checks and gun regulations will do little good if criminals can print high-capacity magazines at home. 3-D printing is a new technology that shows great promise, but also requires new guidelines. Law enforcement officials should have the power to stop high-capacity magazines from proliferating with a Google search.”It seems that Congressman Israel doesn’t realize that background checks and gun regulations both in the United States and just over America’s border with Mexico, already don’t work – without advanced manufacturing and open source paradigms even playing a role. Criminals intent on breaking laws have existed since laws themselves. Additionally, technology like 3D printing, as Forbes correctly points out, will pose a serious challenge to gun control advocates in terms of enforcement. Forbes stated specifically:
“But for either [Congresswoman Diane] Feinstein or Israel’s bill, the same problem arises: How to enforce that prohibition in every garage and workshop in America that houses a 3D printer?”
Of course, without becoming Nazi Germany or Stalin’s Soviet Union, or something far worse, there is no way to enforce these gun regulations. Criminals in particular will continue trumping the law, and because of the government’s refusal to actually tackle the socioeconomic factors driving violence and its insistence on instead punishing law abiding citizens, their authority, legitimacy, and ability to enforce even sensible legislation will be compromised.
And 3D manufacturing isn’t the only way to build your own gun. As a matter of fact, around the world where criminals are unable to buy guns, they do indeed already make their own – and then, as criminals are wanton to do, commit crimes with them, including, murder.
In Thailand, vocational schools are plagued by fierce gang-style rivalries. With standard tools, these students construct homemade guns which they frequently murder each other with. And just this New Year’s Eve, a British tourist was killed when a fight broke out at a party, and a homemade gun was fired. The difference between a Thai vocational education, and say a German or Japanese vocational education is one of culture and socioeconomics – not access to tools.
does car insurance promote safe and responsible driving? no.
you don't need insurance for a car if you drive it on private property. you only need it if you go on public roads.
IMO, training required before issuance of a CCW permit. which i think is already in place for many (most/all?) states.
Insurance is back door registration. Creates another data point for the feds. Insurance company would want to know what type of firearms and what SN# in order to properly insure them...
The insurance scheme isn't about forcing responsibility, it is about registration of every firearm.
Are you taking your meds??
How about voting insurance? Voting has produced policies that spread far more misery and death than a gun.
does car insurance promote safe and responsible driving? no.
you don't need insurance for a car if you drive it on private property. you only need it if you go on public roads.
IMO, training required before issuance of a CCW permit. which i think is already in place for many (most/all?) states.
I could maybe see insurance for carrying a gun as part of the requirements for a CCW permit.
Insurance is a scam
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Every state in the uniuon that issues permits to carry weapons on person for its law abiding citizens requires not only the completion of a certified training course but you must show competency and reasonable target accuracy to pass the permit certification and lawfully carry. In addition the permits are good for a specified time frame, to continue to lawfully carry the law abiding citizen must recertify under the state manage licensing program. Criminals on the other hand feel no compuncture to obtain said license or any insurance covering the carrying of a on person weapon what with them being criminals and all they rarely if ever obey laws of the land....you know how it is.
While I'm no fan of insurance companies, the plain reality is that owning a gun makes injury or death from a gun significantly more likely to the individual and their family. Article here. And there are costs that would likely be passed on to society at large due to those outcomes. It seems responsible for gun owners to all contribute to a pool to cover those costs.
I do not see insurance as an infringement on the right to own a gun, but I admit to not having interest in owning one either, so I expect my opinion will be discounted or outright ignored.
It's close in human live and they predict by 2015 more deaths will be from guns then cars.
In 2010 the fatalities by cars were 32,885 and the total deaths from guns were 30,470.
As cars get safer guns get deadlier.
Remember that when you dial 911 become someone just kicked in your front door in the middle of the night that the cops will eventually arrive and call the coroner to remove your body, and that of your family, and investigate what happened.HOLY SHIT! You couldn't be more wrong. Only ~33 states (as of last checking) require any form of training, and even fewer require proficiency (ie hands on shooting). Also, many states accept other things in lieu of training (like military background). Further, several states don't require licenses, and therefore the rights are good forever.