Mandrake or redhat?

lowtech1

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Mandrake is a better alternative than RedHat if you are a Windows user because Mandrake have more eyes candy.
 

xSauronx

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eye candy? bah to that, that doesnt make it better. ive used fluxbox a bit recently and preferred it to the default kde "eye candy"

i havent tried redhat in some time. but ive used mandrake 9.1 and will quickly recoomend it to anyone wanting to try linux out.
 

robisc

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It is all a matter of preference, but I wouldn't use Redhat simply because they are stopping development and support of the desktop versions, Link and if my choice was left with just Mandrake then I would say try SuSE.
 

NathanBWF

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I installed Mandrake 9.1 a couple of weeks ago. It is very easy to use and looks very nice. The install was easy and went off without a hitch. I'd recommend it for someone who's never used linux before...I also have a Redhat 9 box up and running and it is also very nice, but again with the whole stopping of support thing going on I'd again recommend Mandrake.
 

zogg

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Its amazing how far linux has come.
I remember trying to instal linuk redhat 5.1 and it was a nightmare to get the network and sound working.
 

JustMike

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Originally posted by: robisc
It is all a matter of preference, but I wouldn't use Redhat simply because they are stopping development and support of the desktop versions, Link and if my choice was left with just Mandrake then I would say try SuSE.

Not really... the next version of Fedora will be essentially RedHat 10.
 

Spyro

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Originally posted by: sean2002
For somene who has never used LInux before, which would be better and why

You should go with mandrake because it's wizards usually do a pretty good job of detecting the right hardware and setting everything up.
 

imported_Phil

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I'm still confused as to why it's "Adware"....

Gah, time to hit the booze so I won't stay up all night trying to wrap my brain around the idea.
 

Ynog

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Personally I prefer Redhat, but thats my opinion. I think its very easy to setup and configure.
Redhat 9, even contains a slightly "Redhat" modify kernel to support certain hardware.

I have never used Mandrake before, so I can not give any pluses or minus to its use.
I would probably download both, give one a shot and if you like it, then your ok, if you
don't like it, you can give the other one a try.

Personally I don't think either is a bad choice for someone who has never used linux before.
 

JustMike

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Ok, I misunderstood the level of advertising within the Mandrake product. If it's only at install time and then only installing some links in the browser, the former can be easily ignored and the latter easily removed.
 

asb002

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Here's my two cents: RedHat. I initially would've recommended Mandrake, but after headaches it gave me, RedHat was the way to go.
 

imported_Phil

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Redhat's nice and all, but NTFS & MP3 support disabled out-of-the-box? Meh. Not a good idea for n00bs unless they've got a good guide to it, really.

Mandrake's a pretty good I've-only-ever-used-Windows distro, then move to Redhat after a few months for the excellent Bluecurve interface and a bit more stability (allegedly).
 

KF

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The problem with OSes for the average user is that he is the administrator. He is the one that has to figure everything out if anything needs changing, or anything goes wrong, or if anything needs to be added. Windows 98 was the best ever x86 OS from that standpoint, although maybe not from others (and XP took a leap backwards.) Linux has been terrible and now is somewhat passable. Linux starts out being terrible, because it is a version of Unix, and in "big iron" computers it was always expected that there would be technical specialists that were super-knowledgable, who would take care of administering. The main reason linux today seems OK in this respect, to many people, is that everything is aleady set up by the installation program. The installation programs of both RH 9 and Mandrake 9.1 are both very good. And unless you have put a patch on the OS for your video card and then switch video cards, every time you reboot, linux (kudzu?) will redetect and install whatever is needed for hardware changes.

Mandrake sets up a few more things automatically, so that users will have convenient use of them. Mandrake 9.1 has a fairly passible GUI utility that will help users administor their computer after installation. A similar seeming utility in Red Hat 9 is not very capable. To me, it seems Mandrake has a better handle on what average people are going to need in order to make use of linux on home computers, or maybe RH was a little slow in getting its vision in place, and we will see in RH 10. Red Hat is more cautious about adding to and changing their distribution, I gather. Mandrake presses open souce to the limits to maximize convenience and usablilty.

One thing you have to remember about OS nerds, if you don't happen to be one, is that they don't mind having to memorize dozens or hundreds of command names and switches, and configuration file names, and directory names, which they type in at black screen. They like it. It is mainly because Windows goes around this that they hate Microsoft so bad. Black-screen linux is a "real" OS to them. So look out when one of these OS nerds lays out advice. You have to appreciate what they like, and there are not many people like them.

It was not long ago that I installed both Red Hat 9 and Mandrake 9.1. Over the years I have installed quite a few linux distributions, just to see how it has been coming a long. I've accumulated a stack o them. I'd just about given up on the idea that linux was ever going to be in a format usable by ordinary people. I must say, I was shocked, expecially by Mandrake, when it just about set itself up by itself without asking mysterious questions, without one glitch, and everything worked at the end, and looked pretty. I think even MS could take some notes for the next XP setup program. One wonderful thing: no infinite length serial number to type in. What a pleasure! That is thing I hate worst about installing Windows, besides it taking so long. It takes me forever typing in the serial number.
 

imported_Phil

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Couldn't have said it better myself. Sadly, there's still a large divide between 1337 Linux users and regular Windows users, I'm frantically trying to bridge that gap myself by reading lots of man pages.
 

lowtech1

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Originally posted by: KF
The problem with OSes for the average user is that he is the administrator. He is the one that has to figure everything out if anything needs changing, or anything goes wrong, or if anything needs to be added. Windows 98 was the best ever x86 OS from that standpoint, although maybe not from others (and XP took a leap backwards.) Linux has been terrible and now is somewhat passable. Linux starts out being terrible, because it is a version of Unix, and in "big iron" computers it was always expected that there would be technical specialists that were super-knowledgable, who would take care of administering. The main reason linux today seems OK in this respect, to many people, is that everything is aleady set up by the installation program. The installation programs of both RH 9 and Mandrake 9.1 are both very good. And unless you have put a patch on the OS for your video card and then switch video cards, every time you reboot, linux (kudzu?) will redetect and install whatever is needed for hardware changes.

Mandrake sets up a few more things automatically, so that users will have convenient use of them. Mandrake 9.1 has a fairly passible GUI utility that will help users administor their computer after installation. A similar seeming utility in Red Hat 9 is not very capable. To me, it seems Mandrake has a better handle on what average people are going to need in order to make use of linux on home computers, or maybe RH was a little slow in getting its vision in place, and we will see in RH 10. Red Hat is more cautious about adding to and changing their distribution, I gather. Mandrake presses open souce to the limits to maximize convenience and usablilty.

One thing you have to remember about OS nerds, if you don't happen to be one, is that they don't mind having to memorize dozens or hundreds of command names and switches, and configuration file names, and directory names, which they type in at black screen. They like it. It is mainly because Windows goes around this that they hate Microsoft so bad. Black-screen linux is a "real" OS to them. So look out when one of these OS nerds lays out advice. You have to appreciate what they like, and there are not many people like them.

It was not long ago that I installed both Red Hat 9 and Mandrake 9.1. Over the years I have installed quite a few linux distributions, just to see how it has been coming a long. I've accumulated a stack o them. I'd just about given up on the idea that linux was ever going to be in a format usable by ordinary people. I must say, I was shocked, expecially by Mandrake, when it just about set itself up by itself without asking mysterious questions, without one glitch, and everything worked at the end, and looked pretty. I think even MS could take some notes for the next XP setup program. One wonderful thing: no infinite length serial number to type in. What a pleasure! That is thing I hate worst about installing Windows, besides it taking so long. It takes me forever typing in the serial number.
In your case Knoppix or Gnoppix would be the better choice. Hand free....no need to install or cryptic hardware questions.
 

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Originally posted by: DopeFiend
Couldn't have said it better myself. Sadly, there's still a large divide between 1337 Linux users and regular Windows users, I'm frantically trying to bridge that gap myself by reading lots of man pages.

LOL for a minute there I thought you were saying there were only one thousand three hundred and thirty seven linux users
 

imported_Phil

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Nah, there's a few more than that
Joking aside, I'm actually posting this on my new Gentoo/KDE box; thanks to a certain person in the #gentoo irc channel, all my problems have been solved, and this leads me on to an important point.
Having played with Mandrake (various forms of) and Redhat 9, I've come to the conclusion that their support & community is terrible. (Sorry, but it is) Gentoo's User Community and documentation is by far better- if I had had this same problem with Redhat or Mandrake, I'm sure that I would have given up by now.

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