Manti Te’o’s dead girlfriend, a hoax?

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microAmp

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semi-related here but I'm wondering how lance armstrong passed all of his drug tests if he was doping the entire time...

did he cycle off the steroids at those times? does that really work? no lingering steroids in your system if you cycle off?

did he use some kind of masking agent? how does that work?

I honestly think that a ton of the cyclists at that time were on steroids too, and they all just used the same process to cover up what they were doing. Just like in baseball.

(there may be a better thread to discuss this.)

The better thread:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2295273

He did the stuff that they didn't or don't know how to test for.
 

sactoking

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ESPN reports that he's now represented by CAA. Deadspin and Notre Dame say that Te'o intended to come public this week or next.

Really points to him being in on the scam and wanting to cash in on it.
 

DougK62

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ESPN reports that he's now represented by CAA. Deadspin and Notre Dame say that Te'o intended to come public this week or next.

Really points to him being in on the scam and wanting to cash in on it.

How do you jump to that conclusion?
 

Phoenix86

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The blowhards on evening commute sports radio were saying that they wouldn't even take him in the 3rd round if he was available. Hyperbole, I think, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him fall to the late 2nd or 3rd round.
Did his stats/play really justify a 1str round spot anyways or what hype pushing him up like the heisman polls? I don't follow college football at all but based on what someone else showed earlier there's 2 better players (stats-wise).
 

sactoking

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How do you jump to that conclusion?

ESPN said they had an interview with Te'o scheduled but that now he's repped by CAA, canceled the ESPN interview, and has been shopping around (checkbook journalism).
 

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With all this Manti hating you would think he lied to police about a murder.

Oh, wait....
 

Jimzz

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He already told his side of the story. He claimed that someone fooled him, and this whole time, for the entire 3+ years that he "knew" this woman, it was actually someone jerking him around online. And that he never met her face to face, which itself contradicts earlier things he said about how he met her (supposedly in person after a game against Stanford in 2009) and his relationship with her (visiting her in Hawaii).

Here is his statement:



So at the VERY LEAST, and assuming what he said is true, he lied about the circumstances of their relationship. Again, the very best thing possible for him is that he really DID get tricked and was so embarrassed that he kept pretending that she was real so he wouldn't have to admit it.

Another thing someone brought up:

<foil hat> Could this "girl friend" maybe have been a cover for him being gay? </foil hat>

But yea him saying they meet and now changing his story, something does not add up and now he can't get his story straight.
 

Imported

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Did his stats/play really justify a 1str round spot anyways or what hype pushing him up like the heisman polls? I don't follow college football at all but based on what someone else showed earlier there's 2 better players (stats-wise).

From what I understand, a major reason for his high draft grade/stock was his character and perseverance through tough times. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1489477-updated-manti-teo-2013-nfl-draft-stock-report

Funny but weird.
@LennayKay
My statement: This is incredibly embarrassing to talk about, but I have been told by Alabama's offense that Manti Te'o is not real.
 

Gigantopithecus

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Did his stats/play really justify a 1str round spot anyways or what hype pushing him up like the heisman polls? I don't follow college football at all but based on what someone else showed earlier there's 2 better players (stats-wise).

Yes, in my armchair opinion, he was definitely one of the top three linebackers entering the draft and arguably the best prospect. A lot of that was hype (though I think his Heisman run was fueled more by a lack of truly standout offensive players until Manziel hit the spotlight than Te'o's sob story), a lot of that was Notre Dame's weak schedule, and a lot of that was his intangibles. I think the Bama game exposed the hype and Notre Dame's schedule, and this will definitely affect his intangibles. I would not be surprised to see Minter, Ogletree, or Brown get drafted before Te'o now. That could mean Te'o will go in the second or third round.

That's depending on what happens with the developing story. If it's demonstrated that Te'o was in on the ruse and either lied to or at least mislead Notre Dame and the media, then I think his draft stock will plummet. The NFL already has an image issue. If he was just some astonishingly naive kid, then I don't think it will affect his draft stock overmuch.
 

Deeko

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Maybe being on this forum for almost 15 years has stunted my emotional response to this topic but I just don't care....
 

DougK62

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But yea him saying they meet and now changing his story, something does not add up and now he can't get his story straight.

When did he say that they had met? I haven't seen anything thus far about him personally saying that he had met her.
 

tHa ShIzNiT

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Maybe being on this forum for almost 15 years has stunted my emotional response to this topic but I just don't care....

a lot of people dont care. but it seems the majority of the people do, as this is one of the most popular sports stories in a long time. personally, I am completely enthralled by it. I'm on pins and needles to hear more. But that could be due to the fact that I'm at work, and anything remotely interesting will draw my attention.
 
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When did he say that they had met? I haven't seen anything thus far about him personally saying that he had met her.

A South Bend newspaper article (now pulled from their website) described several meetings. It appears his father was the source for the article, and thus he presumably described the meetings to his dad. Apparently his teammates also thought he had met the girl at least once.
 

Drako

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When did he say that they had met? I haven't seen anything thus far about him personally saying that he had met her.

It was in the South Bend Tribune article by Eric Hansen, which has been mysteriously removed from their website.

Eric Hansen claims that all the information was taken from a taped interview he did with Manti's dad.
 

DougK62

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a lot of people dont care. but it seems the majority of the people do, as this is one of the most popular sports stories in a long time. personally, I am completely enthralled by it. I'm on pins and needles to hear more. But that could be due to the fact that I'm at work, and anything remotely interesting will draw my attention.

It's interesting because the long-term implications of this are really nothing. Te'o hasn't committed a crime, and he will still play in the NFL. People are captivated by it because it's just...so WEIRD.
 

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When did he say that they had met? I haven't seen anything thus far about him personally saying that he had met her.

Did you read the Deadspin article? It includes a story where Te'o's FATHER says that he and his fake GF visited family in Hawaii
 

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It's interesting because the long-term implications of this are really nothing. Te'o hasn't committed a crime, and he will still play in the NFL. People are captivated by it because it's just...so WEIRD.

I think it was the New York Giants who signed a lineman who had been convicted of sexual assault in college.

Its FOOTBALL baby. Just win at all costs.
 

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It's interesting because the long-term implications of this are really nothing. Te'o hasn't committed a crime, and he will still play in the NFL. People are captivated by it because it's just...so WEIRD.

Yeah, I agree.

Unless of course this girl was real, but he killed her and did an amazing job of cleaning it all up!

KT
 

DougK62

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A South Bend newspaper article (now pulled from their website) described several meetings. It appears his father was the source for the article, and thus he presumably described the meetings to his dad. Apparently his teammates also thought he had met the girl at least once.

Right, it was his father that made those statements. For me, that doesn't mean a whole lot. I'm curious if Manti himself has ever publicly stated that he had met this supposed girl face to face.
 
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