Marie Harf: "Stop ISIS...Get Them Jobs"!

[Moonbeam]

In your world ISIS gives out hugs, and kittens to all the poor Muslims of the world.





How fucked in the head are you?

You forgot puppies. They want to give away puppies too. Honestly, these are just sweet misunderstood people who need constructive work to do. Give them jobs and they will join the Rotary Club. It will be perfectly safe for you to bend over and drop your pants.

The wonderful thing about brain defectives is that they are so eager to prove it.

 

[Vic]

You think the IRA is equivalent to ISIS? Because they've both been labelled as terrorists? Do you have any non stupid examples of extant christian organizations comparable to isis?

What, are you 15 years old or something? Or never read a history book?

 

[Moonbeam]

Those of us not given over to a constant state of anxiety that a Muslim is creeping up our leg to touch us somewhere naughty realize that jobs and a healthy economy are conditions conducive to mentally healthy children. You can drop a mad man in paradise and his madness will persist, but when his children grow up they will much more likely be interested in making something of the opportunities such a condition affords. So we are not really talking here about curing Isil by giving them jobs as the mentally defective here suspect, but in changing the conditions in which future generations reach majority. This, of course, is obvious to anybody with a functioning brain and understands the effects of conditioning by the environment on children.

 

[justoh]

The Lord's Resistance Army.

Thanks for offering a much more sensible and interesting contender, though we both know that doesn't quite cut it. They're not really comparable in terms of religious influence, not to mention ambition/objective. Don't have to get into the anticipated, "oh, sure, they're not really christians but isis are really muslims, gotcha" nonsense, as that leads nowhere; we can base it just on how they themselves describe the extent of their respective religious influences, and look at the apparent differences of theological sophistication.

In any event, there existing a bonefide christian equivalent to isis isn't fatal to any disagreement as to whether poverty is the root cause for isis. The existence of similarly situated groups doesn't seem relevant at all. I mean, surely you know i was just trying to provoke christians into misplaced self-righteousness?

 

[Matt1970]

Those of us not given over to a constant state of anxiety that a Muslim is creeping up our leg to touch us somewhere naughty realize that jobs and a healthy economy are conditions conducive to mentally healthy children. You can drop a mad man in paradise and his madness will persist, but when his children grow up they will much more likely be interested in making something of the opportunities such a condition affords. So we are not really talking here about curing Isil by giving them jobs as the mentally defective here suspect, but in changing the conditions in which future generations reach majority. This, of course, is obvious to anybody with a functioning brain and understands the effects of conditioning by the environment on children.

All you are doing is claiming it's not the job but the changes in lifestyle the job will bring. I have news for you, Bin Laden was born to the family of billionaire. I guess it takes a defective mind to figure out it isn't about the lifestyle.

 

[justoh]

What, are 15 years old or something? Or never read a history book?

In English?

 

[Moonbeam]

In English?

After hours of meticulous and exhaustive analysis I have concluded he left the word 'you' out between 'are' and '15'.

 

[Moonbeam]

All you are doing is claiming it's not the job but the changes in lifestyle the job will bring. I have news for you, Bin Laden was born to the family of billionaire. I guess it takes a defective mind to figure out it isn't about the lifestyle.

After hours of meticulous and exhaustive mental effort, I have concluded that because once long ago I got a small stone in a pot of rice I cooked, that rice is actually a geological formation, and not a crop like stupid liberals think. Had I looked even deeper into that issue I am sure I would have discovered that the small stone was also quite wealthy.

I love having a brain defect that allows me to poop out all manner of shit, throw it and admire how beautifully it seems to stick to anything.

 

[justoh]

After hours of meticulous and exhaustive analysis I have concluded he left the word 'you' out between 'are' and '15'.

Talking shit as usual. It hasn't even been hours. Well, only exactly now, and not at the time of your post. Pathetic.

 

[werepossum]

#JobsForISIS :sneaky:

lol +1

Maybe you need a job too.

lol

Talking shit as usual. It hasn't even been hours. Well, only exactly now, and not at the time of your post. Pathetic.

You know what they say, time flies when you're legally insane and convinced you're the only sane person.

 

[alcoholbob]

Even if you create a new government bureaucracy just for the ISIS terrorists and hopefuls to do make-work somehow stops them from committing Jihad, the extra credit the government takes and extra taxes it consumes just means someone else in the private sector, oftentimes several times more people, don't have a job now, or are pushed into poverty because their purchasing power declined.

(Unless you are willing to admit these newly impoverished people won't commit jihad because they aren't religious fanatics, therefore it's okay to shift the poverty). It's just plugging a hole a sinking ship.

 

[glenn1]

All you are doing is claiming it's not the job but the changes in lifestyle the job will bring. I have news for you, Bin Laden was born to the family of billionaire. I guess it takes a defective mind to figure out it isn't about the lifestyle.

Osama bin Laden was just a progressive trying to stimulate job growth. Doing counterproductive shit in the name of "creating jobs" is an evergreen Keynesian idea that like herpes never goes away. Truly it makes no difference if it's Keynes saying we should hire people to dig holes and others to fill them back in, Krugman saying we should fake an alien invasion, or "Stimulus Bin Laden" blowing up a couple buildings in Manhattan because in the end they all "boost employment."

In this case, the statement from the OP seems just another example of how in the mind of someone like President Obama (and many progressives generally) everyone including terrorists are always rational actors who can be reasoned with and generally have the same political concerns as them - "Oh Arabs are just mad because of American foreign policy." Or the reason they riot is for "civil rights, probably for gays and women." Or "economic inequality is a prime mover of unrest and terrorism."

 

[senseamp]

Typical Republican responses. The party has learned nothing from dropping the ball on 9/11, Iraq, or Afghanistan.

 

[brycejones]

Osama bin Laden was just a progressive trying to stimulate job growth. Doing counterproductive shit in the name of "creating jobs" is an evergreen Keynesian idea that like herpes never goes away. Truly it makes no difference if it's Keynes saying we should hire people to dig holes and others to fill them back in, Krugman saying we should fake an alien invasion, or "Stimulus Bin Laden" blowing up a couple buildings in Manhattan because in the end they all "boost employment."

In this case, the statement from the OP seems just another example of how in the mind of someone like President Obama (and many progressives generally) everyone including terrorists are always rational actors who can be reasoned with and generally have the same political concerns as them - "Oh Arabs are just mad because of American foreign policy." Or the reason they riot is for "civil rights, probably for gays and women." Or "economic inequality is a prime mover of unrest and terrorism."

Well this is an interesting insight into insanity.

 

[brycejones]

#JobsForISIS :sneaky:

For actual terrorists these are exactly the kinds of jobs they need to be given. The point which seems to be lost on the simpleminded was to take actions to redirect people before they went down that path in life.

 

[Vic]

In English?

Obviously my phone dropped the word 'you' and I missed that in my haste to post.

The Irish Troubles are the perfect example of what you asked for. A centuries-old religious and ethnic dispute, involving Christians, that was quickly remediated once the impoverished 'aggressor' side received access to jobs, prosperity, and a level of self-autonomy.
This isn't rocket science.

 

[werepossum]

Obviously my phone dropped the word 'you' and I missed that in my haste to post.

The Irish Troubles are the perfect example of what you asked for. A centuries-old religious and ethnic dispute, involving Christians, that was quickly remediated once the impoverished 'aggressor' side received access to jobs, prosperity, and a level of self-autonomy.
This isn't rocket science.

I think you have that backwards, that they gained access to jobs once they ceased using bullets and started using words. Same with autonomy; people are ever so much nicer to you when you aren't trying to kill them, and people aren't likely to invest hard-earned money where their shiny new factory is likely to be blown up or burned down as a symbol of the cause.

 

[justoh]

Obviously my phone dropped the word 'you' and I missed that in my haste to post.

If it's so obvious then you wouldn't be needing to explain it. I mean, geez. This isn't rocket science.

 

[MongGrel]

In English?

You, as a person, should really start reading more and posting less.

You would stop embarrassing yourself to a large extent.

 

[MongGrel]

If it's so obvious then you wouldn't be needing to explain it. I mean, geez. This isn't rocket science.

If it was, you'd still be working on Plaster of Paris volcano science projects.

 

[MongGrel]

I think you have that backwards, that they gained access to jobs once they ceased using bullets and started using words. Same with autonomy; people are ever so much nicer to you when you aren't trying to kill them, and people aren't likely to invest hard-earned money where their shiny new factory is likely to be blown up or burned down as a symbol of the cause.

+1

 

[Moonbeam]

Talking shit as usual. It hasn't even been hours. Well, only exactly now, and not at the time of your post. Pathetic.

Please understand that a few minutes of me thinking accomplishes what would take you years.

 

[boomerang]

For actual terrorists these are exactly the kinds of jobs they need to be given. The point which seems to be lost on the simpleminded was to take actions to redirect people before they went down that path in life.

No, we all get it. It's that it's a harebrained idea that seems entirely plausible to people that think like children which would be the JV team we've got running the nation and of course, you. If (insert country that encourages and/or harbors terrorists here) wants to not create terrorists, then let them "create jobs" for their people and see how it works out. But guess what? They like it just the way things are.

These people are religious fundamentalists that are intent on destroying the world. It's mass psychosis. Delivering pizza's isn't going to help.

The truly laughable part is that our JV team can't create jobs here within our own borders. It's what makes it all even more absurd.

Have you thought of pursuing a lawsuit against the people that educated you? You may have a good case.

 

[Moonbeam]

Obviously my phone dropped the word 'you' and I missed that in my haste to post.

I thought it was obvious too, but I wanted to give the impression I had to struggle to reach that conclusion so he wouldn't feel like an idiot.

 

[werepossum]

No, we all get it. It's that it's a harebrained idea that seems entirely plausible to people that think like children which would be the JV team we've got running the nation and of course, you. If (insert country that encourages and/or harbors terrorists here) wants to not create terrorists, then let them "create jobs" for their people and see how it works out. But guess what? They like it just the way things are.

These people are religious fundamentalists that are intent on destroying the world. It's mass psychosis. Delivering pizza's isn't going to help.

The truly laughable part is that our JV team can't create jobs here within our own borders. It's what makes it all even more absurd.

Have you thought of pursuing a lawsuit against the people that educated you? You may have a good case.

Pizza always helps, dude. There is no situation so dire that a good pizza can't improve it.