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davmat787

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The CBD is characterized by fear. Isil scares them. Therefore Isil must die. Anything more complex than 'kill them' is also terrifying to the CBD. Anybody with any other point of view is dangerous and should also be killed. You don't want to be within reach of a CB defective when you say these things but if you are out of reach be sure you will be called a dangerous idiot.

Maybe you just can't empathize what it would be like to be a religious minority stuck up on a mountain surrounded by zealots that are hellbent on killing you and everyone else up there with you. Or because of your male privilege you can't empathize with all of those 9-12 year old girls openly being bought and sold by these true believers. Or because of your white western male privilege all of these horrors are simply pixels on a screen to you, your brain turning it into entertainment because you can't admit that the horrors and brutality ISIS brings daily is in fact reality and worthy of death.

Two arms, two legs, and the ability to walk in a bipedal fashion does not a human make.
 

justoh

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Oh, that's just the beginning of how honest I can be. I could have originally said that it took me hours to figure out what Vic meant to sarcastically imply you're retarded. Oh wait......

But then even the great MongGrel seems not to have figured that out.

It couldn't have taken you hours to analyze a post made a single hour before your posted analysis. You're still not getting this, I'm afraid. Stop embarrassing yourself.
 

Subyman

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Do you have any non stupid examples of extant christian organizations comparable to isis?

So, at the beginning of the thread you set up a proposition and then expect others to form your arguments. It is on you to prove that Christians > Muslims, not set up people to try to give you ISIS equivalents so you can shoot them down (as if that proves anything.) Back up your own claims with your own arguments instead of dangling it out there.
 

justoh

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So, at the beginning of the thread you set up a proposition and then expect others to form your arguments. It is on you to prove that Christians > Muslims, not set up people to try to give you ISIS equivalents so you can shoot them down (as if that proves anything.) Back up your own claims with your own arguments instead of dangling it out there.

I suggested there's no christian equivalent to isis. How should I demonstrate this? List every single org that exists and argue why it's not the same? Make sense?
 

davmat787

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Please do not breed.

What if his wife just had a miscarriage? It's one thing for us apes to hit each other with sticks but bringing up familial issues is just super classy. You should stick to CBD and telling people how they hate themselves, we got ignoring those things down to a T.
 

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davmat787

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You're retarded. The Lebanese Christian militias were more brutal, and committed more massacres than any of the muslim groups.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Camps


Go take your ignorance and bigotry elsewhere.

Sometimes described as being Muslim versus Christian, the Lebanese Civil War was actually a multifaceted conflict in which there was nearly as much intraconfessional violence as there was violence between Muslims and Christians. The War of the Camps was one of such interfactional conflicts between members of the same religion. The conflict itself can be compared to the one between the Lebanese Forces (LF), a primarily Christian Maronite militia led by Samir Geagea, and Michel Aoun's Christian-controlled faction of the Lebanese Armed Forces (LAF)

Not familiar with this conflict but it doesn't seem to be the example you are looking for perhaps?
 

werepossum

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Maybe you just can't empathize what it would be like to be a religious minority stuck up on a mountain surrounded by zealots that are hellbent on killing you and everyone else up there with you. Or because of your male privilege you can't empathize with all of those 9-12 year old girls openly being bought and sold by these true believers. Or because of your white western male privilege all of these horrors are simply pixels on a screen to you, your brain turning it into entertainment because you can't admit that the horrors and brutality ISIS brings daily is in fact reality and worthy of death.

Two arms, two legs, and the ability to walk in a bipedal fashion does not a human make.
Damned well said, sir.

You're retarded. The Lebanese Christian militias were more brutal, and committed more massacres than any of the muslim groups.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Camps


Go take your ignorance and bigotry elsewhere.
Dude, you are insane. The Phalangists weren't even the most brutal of Lebanon, much less on par with ISIS. Remember that they have lived in peace with their Muslim brothers for decades before Syria began sending in militants and terrorists and eventually soldiers. Hell, Beirut used to be known as the Paris of the Middle East. It certainly wasn't the Christians that decided to terrorize their neighbors to close down the hotels and beaches.
 

justoh

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What if his wife just had a miscarriage? It's one thing for us apes to hit each other with sticks but bringing up familial issues is just super classy. You should stick to CBD and telling people how they hate themselves, we got ignoring those things down to a T.

Luckily that's not the case. Liberals are always so malicious (you're conservative, right?)
 

MongGrel

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Oh, that's just the beginning of how honest I can be. I could have originally said that it took me hours to figure out what Vic meant to sarcastically imply you're retarded. Oh wait......

But then even the great MongGrel seems not to have figured that out.

I must be slacking

Or inferred something wrongly.

Sorry.
 
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justoh

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Only one decent example was given. Why do you think eskimo specifically suggested something else after the ridiculous IRA example? Because it's ridiculous. I can't address every ignorant suggestion. I thought it would be easier to just mock them, but now some of you are confused. This confusion has led to frustration, and the delusion that you could actually be right and me wrong. What's one more delusion to you bastards, I suppose. But no need to get mean over it. sheesh
 

Moonbeam

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I must be slacking

Or inferred something wrongly.

Sorry.

First there was this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by justoh View Post
In English?

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Originally Posted by Moonbeam View Post
After hours of meticulous and exhaustive analysis I have concluded he left the word 'you' out between 'are' and '15'.

You, as a person, should really start reading more and posting less.

You would stop embarrassing yourself to a large extent.

which left me puzzled as to whom you were speaking, followed by this:

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Originally Posted by rpsgc View Post
Indeed. A normal person would need many years to reach your level of insanity.

Even more to become sane again perhaps...

It's a progressive thing, in a way.
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It looks like criticism without any identification of what exactly you object too over points I made that make perfect sense. What did I say that you disagree with?
 

Moonbeam

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Only one decent example was given. Why do you think eskimo specifically suggested something else after the ridiculous IRA example? Because it's ridiculous. I can't address every ignorant suggestion. I thought it would be easier to just mock them, but now some of you are confused. This confusion has led to frustration, and the delusion that you could actually be right and me wrong. What's one more delusion to you bastards, I suppose. But no need to get mean over it. sheesh

You hurt my feelings last week when you said not an hour had passed in my deep and exhaustive analysis of what the heck Vic was trying to say which is a long time to suffer from such perplexity and so on.
 

davmat787

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Damned well said, sir.

With infinite time even a chimp will author something intelligible. ()

I just can't understand why in these situations some people immediately try to make excuses for the actions of these terrorists or whatever you want to call them, and lay blame everywhere but at their own damn feet!

ISIS has shown the value they place on human life, they are stupid to think others will not resist and treat their lives with the same value. I saw a video recently where some Peshmerga fighters stayed and prayed with some ISIS asshole who was dying with his guts in his hands courtesy of the same fighters. I don't know if I would have that kind of grace knowing what ISIS does but it was quite the.... juxtaposition.

Go YPG.
 

Moonbeam

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With infinite time even a chimp will author something intelligible. ()

I just can't understand why in these situations some people immediately try to make excuses for the actions of these terrorists or whatever you want to call them, and lay blame everywhere but at their own damn feet!

ISIS has shown the value they place on human life, they are stupid to think others will not resist and treat their lives with the same value. I saw a video recently where some Peshmerga fighters stayed and prayed with some ISIS asshole who was dying with his guts in his hands courtesy of the same fighters. I don't know if I would have that kind of grace knowing what ISIS does but it was quite the.... juxtaposition.

Go YPG.

You seem not to understand something that isn't part of the discussion. No excuses for Isil are in evidence that I can see. The topic is that a life of opportunity and basic justice doesn't create conditions conducive to lots of folk wanting to go into the terrorist profession.
 

werepossum

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With infinite time even a chimp will author something intelligible. ()

I just can't understand why in these situations some people immediately try to make excuses for the actions of these terrorists or whatever you want to call them, and lay blame everywhere but at their own damn feet!

ISIS has shown the value they place on human life, they are stupid to think others will not resist and treat their lives with the same value. I saw a video recently where some Peshmerga fighters stayed and prayed with some ISIS asshole who was dying with his guts in his hands courtesy of the same fighters. I don't know if I would have that kind of grace knowing what ISIS does but it was quite the.... juxtaposition.

Go YPG.
I'm quite certain I would not have that kind of grace. But I can admire it. These Islamic fighters are sometimes more Christian than we Christians.

Probably best not to tell them that though.
 

justoh

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You seem not to understand something that isn't part of the discussion. No excuses for Isil are in evidence that I can see. The topic is that a life of opportunity and basic justice doesn't create conditions conducive to lots of folk wanting to go into the terrorist profession.

The topic was set by the guy who created the topic. I think it's something like, "stop ISIS... Get them jobs."

Technically anyway. It shouldn't be about what you just suggested in bold, because that seems like nonsense. The ordinary consequences of opportunity and basic justice may be influential in a million different ways, including being conducive to a lot of folks wanting to go into the terrorism profession. Just look at the United States of America.

The condition conducive to terror i think is called the human condition. Lols? but really. Probably?
 

raildogg

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It's not jobs, wealth or any of that. It's the attitude, the ability to think properly, the ability to reason, the ability to face reality and the most important thing of all: to realize one's own conditioning. They cannot see what is actual and what is not. When your with other people who are just as blind as you, you all think that you can see. This has happened in the past. When heavily conditioned people join other heavily conditioned people, the results are never good.

You cannot bomb them out of existence. Others will come and take their place. First we had Al-qaeda (who supposedly originated from Mujaheddin) and now we have ISIS or whatever their name is. Al-qaeda is still around but we have a new bad guy who seems, according to the media, to be more vicious. There are many other groups whose names we don't know too well. Eliminate one and another will pop up.

It's all about the human mind. Change that and then the world will be different. But we're focused on changing the external things, such as jobs, etc. rather than the root of the problem.
 

MongGrel

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First there was this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by justoh View Post
In English?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonbeam View Post
After hours of meticulous and exhaustive analysis I have concluded he left the word 'you' out between 'are' and '15'.

You, as a person, should really start reading more and posting less.

You would stop embarrassing yourself to a large extent.

which left me puzzled as to whom you were speaking, followed by this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by rpsgc View Post
Indeed. A normal person would need many years to reach your level of insanity.

Even more to become sane again perhaps...

It's a progressive thing, in a way.
--------------

It looks like criticism without any identification of what exactly you object too over points I made that make perfect sense. What did I say that you disagree with?

Must have mucked something up there, the posting thing was intended to Justoh.

My bad, was a misplaced quote.

Fixed it.

They other was just an attempt at offhand humorm the first one might have exagerrated it.

Appologize.
 
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Moonbeam

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Must have mucked something up there, the posting thing was intended to Justoh.

My bad, was a misplaced quote.

Fixed it.

They other was just an attempt at offhand humorm the first one might have exagerrated it.

Appologize.

Thanks for taking the time to explain that to me and for the apology, which wasn't needed, really, as the most important thing this explanation does for me is that it assures me what looked on my end like crazy isn't actually there. That is a big relief.
 

Subyman

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I suggested there's no christian equivalent to isis. How should I demonstrate this? List every single org that exists and argue why it's not the same? Make sense?

Now you are trying to defer your point to your argument. Your point is to say Christians > Muslims by making the argument that Christians do not have an ISIS equivalent. I'm saying, your argument doesn't prove your point. You asked people to show you Christian ISIS equivalents, but to what end?
 

justoh

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In any event, there existing a bonefide christian equivalent to isis isn't fatal to any disagreement as to whether poverty is the root cause for isis. The existence of similarly situated groups doesn't seem relevant at all. I mean, surely you know i was just trying to provoke christians into misplaced self-righteousness?


and then you go,


Now you are trying to defer your point to your argument. Your point is to say Christians > Muslims by making the argument that Christians do not have an ISIS equivalent. I'm saying, your argument doesn't prove your point. You asked people to show you Christian ISIS equivalents, but to what end?

More babble. Poverty isn't the root cause of ISIS is my point. The christian shit is a red herring. None of what you posted makes any sense. Make sense?
 
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