Marijuana is by far the safest recreational drug, study finds

[Jhhnn]

I bet most stoners you met you didn't even realize were stoners, and they blended right in to society and under your radar.

He wasn't referring to real people but rather to his mental image of cannabis users, what his well conditioned imagination tells him.

It's one way of forming an opinion. Just let propagandists do it for you.

 

[Adams200]

A new study published in Nature establishes that cannibas has - by far - the highest "margin of exposure" (the ratio of the median lethal dose to the average actual dose) of all common recreational drugs, both legal and illegal. With an MOE of greater than 10,000 it's almost impossible for MJ to kill someone. By comparison, alcohol and tobacco - legal drugs - have MOE's less than 10. Here's the abstract from the study:



Of course, we'll continue to hear the same tired stories about how dangerous MJ is, about how many lives it ruins. "Sure alcohol and tobacco are bad, they'll acknowledge, but we don't want ANOTHER terrible drug legalized." Except that MJ isn't terrible. Another study released earlier this month (search the threads) concluded that MJ use doesn't lead to a significant increase in motor vehicle accidents.

Legalize, regulate, tax. Legalize, regulate, tax. Legalize, regulate, tax.

Why is this such a difficult message to believe? Oh, I know. It's those damn scientists, again, making stuff up.

There will be negative social effects with the legalization of marijuana. Don't forget about this. You are talking about freedom, but! How can opromoting narcotic use, getting high, and exposing children to drugs promote "freedom"?

 

[SlowSpyder]

There will be negative social effects with the legalization of marijuana. Don't forget about this. You are talking about freedom, but! How can opromoting narcotic use, getting high, and exposing children to drugs promote "freedom"?

Have you read anything in this thread?

 

[Vic]

There will be negative social effects with the legalization of marijuana. Don't forget about this. You are talking about freedom, but! How can opromoting narcotic use, getting high, and exposing children to drugs promote "freedom"?

Legalization is not promotion. We are simply recognizing that the prohibition has done nothing to curtail drug use, or even to prevent children from being exposed to drugs.

 

[rudeguy]

Legalization is not promotion. We are simply recognizing that the prohibition has done nothing to curtail drug use, or even to prevent children from being exposed to drugs.

While ruining and costing lives. Not to mention the monetary costs.


Let the pot heads get high.

 

[rudeguy]

Citation please.

Awwwe...he's already banned.

I'm sure he'll be back again.

 

[pcgeek11]

True. Nobody can force you to be rational, or to pull that stick of self righteousness out of your ass, either.

So what you are saying is IF my opinion is in agreement with yours I am rational. If my opinion doesn't agree with yours the I am " Self Righteous ".

Wow you are a nut bag.

I did not say anything even closely relating or implying self righteousness on my part. I only stated that my opinion is: If you are using drugs for recreational purposes, you were doing it wrong. I don't believe in it. That is all.

No more than your opinion that it is great and there is nothing wrong with it would be considered self righteous.

 

[shira]

Because it screws you up mentally. Every stoner I have ever known eventually ended up being a waste of flesh with the mental capacity of a worm.

By limiting your population to "every stoner I have ever known," you're excluding all of the non-stoner MJ users you've ever known. Kind of like saying knives are bad because every person you have ever known who committed murder with a knife is in prison.

 

[Jhhnn]

Because it screws you up mentally. Every stoner I have ever known eventually ended up being a waste of flesh with the mental capacity of a worm.

You should know more than anyone. Regardless of what you think my opinion doesn't have to meet with your approval. Or anyone else's.

So what you are saying is IF my opinion is in agreement with yours I am rational. If my opinion doesn't agree with yours the I am " Self Righteous ".

Wow you are a nut bag.

I did not say anything even closely relating or implying self righteousness on my part. I only stated that my opinion is: If you are using drugs for recreational purposes, you were doing it wrong. I don't believe in it. That is all.

No more than your opinion that it is great and there is nothing wrong with it would be considered self righteous.

If you were half as smart as you think you are, you'd be stunned by your own lack of self awareness.

 

[Genx87]

Legalization is not promotion. We are simply recognizing that the prohibition has done nothing to curtail drug use, or even to prevent children from being exposed to drugs.

I think worse is by creating a black market for these drugs. One of the easier places to get these drugs is within our school system. So to keep the war on drugs going based on "its for the children" flies in the face of reality.

 

[TechBoyJK]

There will be negative social effects with the legalization of marijuana. Don't forget about this. You are talking about freedom, but! How can opromoting narcotic use, getting high, and exposing children to drugs promote "freedom"?

Ha. That's funny. I don't think the others caught your sarcasm.

 

[TechBoyJK]

IMO Drugs should not be considered as recreation in the first place. If it is you are already screwed up.

Neither should video games.

 

[dali71]

Cannabis extract can have dramatic effect on brain cancer, says new research

You can thank Big Pharma and their lobbyists for their part in the fight to keep MJ illegal, as they can't patent a plant.

 

[Jhhnn]

Cannabis extract can have dramatic effect on brain cancer, says new research

You can thank Big Pharma and their lobbyists for their part in the fight to keep MJ illegal, as they can't patent a plant.

I really don't think that big pharma does that at all. They've been chomping at the bit to work with cannabinoids for a long time. They're stopped dead in their tracks by the schedule 1 status of cannabis.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Cannabis extract can have dramatic effect on brain cancer, says new research

You can thank Big Pharma and their lobbyists for their part in the fight to keep MJ illegal, as they can't patent a plant.

Actually they can, it just has to be a new plant.

http://www.uspto.gov/patents-gettin...ications/general-information-about-35-usc-161

 

[pcgeek11]

If you were half as smart as you think you are, you'd be stunned by your own lack of self awareness.

Really. Thanks for letting me know!

 

[TechBoyJK]

Really. Thanks for letting me know!

What's easier on the body?

A moderate strength cannabis brownie or 1 cup of coffee?

Hint? It's not the beverage.

 

[moonbogg]

Damn stoners

 

[SlowSpyder]

Really. Thanks for letting me know!

Well, look at the arguments you've made... every stoner you know has ended up as a pile of wasted flesh. What about all the stoners you don't know that work and pay taxes and are productive members of society? What if those 'wastes of flesh' were screwed up people to begin with and were more prone to drug use, but weren't screwed up due to drug use and would have ended up the same way regardless?

What is your logical argument for prohibition? What is working so well with the drug laws now that you believe more of the same is the right answer?

 

[Jhhnn]

Oh, yeh- here's the latest info from the DEA on why cannabis should be illegal-

Fearless stoned rabbits!

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/...earless-stoned-rabbits/#.VPTsAvVY5_R.facebook

Young rabbits are easily tamed with food, even wild ones. Of course the rabbit hung around- he thought the agents would feed him like the growers had been. He'll come running every time he hears footsteps if they mean a handful of rabbit chow.

The circular logic about environmental damage is epic. If cannabis were cheap & legal, environmental damage from illegal grows would basically cease.

Too easy? Apparently so.

 

[Zorkorist]

Lol... are you baked (again), Jhhnn?

-John

 

[pcgeek11]

What's easier on the body?

A moderate strength cannabis brownie or 1 cup of coffee?

Hint? It's not the beverage.

Oh you said it so it must be true. Sorry I forgot about that rule.

B.S.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Oh you said it so it must be true. Sorry I forgot about that rule.

B.S.

Is water wet? Yes. Caffeine is without a doubt a 'harder drug' than cannabis.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Oh you said it so it must be true. Sorry I forgot about that rule.

B.S.

Well then pulling up current data that shows marijuana to be harmful should be easy to find. I can give you plenty of data on caffeine overdoses and long term effects.

http://www.caffeineinformer.com/a-real-life-death-by-caffeine

http://www.electricemperor.com/enter/how.html

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/causes_of_death#sthash.GxzZZH89.dpbs

 

[TechBoyJK]

Well then pulling up current data that shows marijuana to be harmful should be easy to find. I can give you plenty of data on caffeine overdoses and long term effects.

http://www.caffeineinformer.com/a-real-life-death-by-caffeine

http://www.electricemperor.com/enter/how.html

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/causes_of_death#sthash.GxzZZH89.dpbs

In reality, most people can easily manage caffeine intake. You have to really, really push it to overdose. But that's the point, cannabis is significantly safer than caffeine. Of course smoking cannabis can bother your lungs, but it's medically accepted now cannabis smoke doesn't do nearly the harm tobacco does (easily quantified by lack of cases of cancer due to cannabis smoke). If you remove smoking from the occasion, and look at cannabis buds the same way you do coffee beans, anybody would agree smoking coffee beans wouldn't be good either.

However, the consequences of over-doing caffeine intake are far more dramatic than cannabis. The nerve damage can ruin your life.