Marijuana is not a gateway drug.

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Number1

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Psychosis Triggered by Smoking Pot? Marijuana Study Says Yes

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20031003-10391704.html

"or at least make them go crazy sooner than they would have if they had never picked up the pipe"

That is exactly what happened to my nephew.

""The results of this study provide strong evidence that reducing cannabis use could delay or even prevent some cases of psychosis," study author Dr. Matthew Large, of the University of New South Wales, said in a written statement."
 

bfdd

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Sucking from the end of a glass receptacle that others have applied their lips to, thereby transmitting myriad unknown diseases, is an abomination to man and unacceptable to society.

If you can't afford to buy enough weed to roll a decent joint you shouldn't be wasting your money on that crap. Think of your parents, wife and children.

Smoking a fatty is a right of passage, but if your lips are so greased up with Vagisil they keep slipping off the spliff you should probably go back to huffing Miracle Whip.

sounds like someone who sucks at hitting the bong.
 

zinfamous

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Sucking from the end of a glass receptacle that others have applied their lips to, thereby transmitting myriad unknown diseases, is an abomination to man and unacceptable to society.

If you can't afford to buy enough weed to roll a decent joint you shouldn't be wasting your money on that crap. Think of your parents, wife and children.

Smoking a fatty is a right of passage, but if your lips are so greased up with Vagisil they keep slipping off the spliff you should probably go back to huffing Miracle Whip.

First of all: all of those diseases are known.

Second: this is why we flame the mouthpiece with the lighter before passing it on.
 

purbeast0

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well weed is known as the "gateway drug" because it is the first drug that most people who try drugs do. i mean i can't really argue with that. i don't know one person who has ever done drugs (myself included) who didn't try weed as their first.
 

destrekor

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"or at least make them go crazy sooner than they would have if they had never picked up the pipe"

That is exactly what happened to my nephew.

""The results of this study provide strong evidence that reducing cannabis use could delay or even prevent some cases of psychosis," study author Dr. Matthew Large, of the University of New South Wales, said in a written statement."

exactly what happened to your nephew?

So you know the exact cause of a mental disorder, completely certain?
And you know for a fact this nephew developed a mental disorder only because of drug consumption?
Do you know for a fact that this individual wasn't at all predisposed to the condition? Perhaps the condition developed at regular pace. Perhaps it was quickened by drug consumption... or perhaps the condition was related to the same traits that may drive people to even want to try drugs, or at the very least make regular use out of them.

I'd like to see a study of genetics that links people who even entertain the idea of drugs, and the people who just never had a desire (this is ignoring those who are just insanely fearful of trying anything due to legal status).

Those individuals who enjoy drugs may just naturally gravitate toward them because they have certain configurations in the brain. Some of those wiring configurations may also spell potential disaster down the road.

There's just so much we don't know, but there have been more honest medical reports that point to many positives for marijuana. Research that leads to more questions than answers, and in fact doesn't provide any important answers in the process, is simply flawed research.

There have been reports with just about every intoxicating chemical out there, claiming, at one point or another, that said chemical can cause psychosis.
Considering all these chemicals act in entirely different ways, use different signaling pathways, interact with different neurotransmitters, they all shouldn't be able to produce the same harmful effect years later.

Yes, messing with neurotransmitter ratios in the long-term isn't a very smart idea... different ratios can be responsible for different problems. But let's consider this: very few humans actually have what might be considered the perfect "normal" ratio of NTs - our genetics are so muddied, our NTs are responsible for some of our personal demons in our personalities.
 

destrekor

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well weed is known as the "gateway drug" because it is the first drug that most people who try drugs do. i mean i can't really argue with that. i don't know one person who has ever done drugs (myself included) who didn't try weed as their first.

you probably tried alcohol first.
 

ahenkel

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CIA invented crack and spread it through the ghetto to keep the black man down.
Marijuana makes white woman loose harlots that listen to jazz.
LSD will make you eat people

I'm assuming this is the cracked out theories on drugs thread.
 

preslove

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Vicodin and other pain pills are the gateway drugs to heroin (I've seen it happen).
Adderall and other ADD pills are the gateway drugs to meth & coke (I've seen it happen).
Weed is the gateway drug to donuts (I've seen it happen).
 
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KGB

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I bought a Gateway PC shortly after smoking my first doober.
 

Saint Nick

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I wonder why alcohol never gets the gateway drug stigma?
The million dollar question. Oh, wait, I'm sure someone will chime in about how its not the same as pot......get real people. Alcohol is a killer, and truthfully should probably be way more regulated than MJ.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Hey, the government can fix health care, so if it says MJ is a gateway drug it must be true.

Over time religion stops being the opiate of the masses to be replaced by faith in government. Talk about cognitive dissonance.
 

TheVrolok

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The million dollar question. Oh, wait, I'm sure someone will chime in about how its not the same as pot......get real people. Alcohol is a killer, and truthfully should probably be way more regulated than MJ.

I would really like to see some good in-depth studies done; but they would have to be fairly complex. The numbers would definitely be interesting to see.
 

DangerAardvark

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Hey, the government can fix health care, so if it says MJ is a gateway drug it must be true.

Over time religion stops being the opiate of the masses to be replaced by faith in government. Talk about cognitive dissonance.

This is a stupid thing which you have said.
 

Heller

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Well Acording to the op I'd be

Shot via firing squad

I love da ganja
 
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