Marine General's Blunt Comments Draw Fire...Gen Mike Hagee "counselled" Gen. Mattis

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: charrison
Marine general speaks bluntly about war. Navy offended. Am I supposed to be surprised by this?

What does the perception that certain people beat their wives have to do with wars?

umm ok....

He's a bit confused, maybe we should tell him who the enemy is and what atrocities they have commited.

This from a guy who doesn't even understand when people are owning his absurd posts? LOL.

Anyway, if you don't understand the part about people beating their wives, you didn't read the article.

this is some online shooter where you get owned? Wait let me bring my l33t h4xing sk!lls and pwn you ...

Most reasonable people with some sense of knowledge know the abuses under the Taliban regime and how women were routinely harrassed. Yes I read the article.

Mr. I Pwn You OMG, do you acknowledge the great human rights abuses under the Taliban regime?

I understand what this Lt. Gen said might have upset some sensitive people, but honestly its no big thing. We should all be happy with every Taliban terrorist being killed or captured

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: charrison
Marine general speaks bluntly about war. Navy offended. Am I supposed to be surprised by this?

What does the perception that certain people beat their wives have to do with wars?

umm ok....

He's a bit confused, maybe we should tell him who the enemy is and what atrocities they have commited.

This from a guy who doesn't even understand when people are owning his absurd posts? LOL.

Anyway, if you don't understand the part about people beating their wives, you didn't read the article.

Oh I forgot afghanistan Taliban set the standard on how to treat women. THanks for reminding me. :roll:

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: raildogg
We should all be happy with every Taliban terrorist being killed or captured

Again, that has nothing to do with blurting something about Afghans beating their wives. (And I didn't spell "own" with the infantile typing you used. The term "own" has been around longer than your first person shooter's have. It's a real word you know. )

 

[Steeplerot]

please, corpmembers are not well known for treating their familys well.
matter of fact everyone I have kown have all been violent headcases to some degree.
keep the jarheads away from the mic for petes sake.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: raildogg
We should all be happy with every Taliban terrorist being killed or captured

Again, that has nothing to do with blurting something about Afghans beating their wives. (And I didn't spell "own" with the infantile typing you used. The term "own" has been around longer than your first person shooter's have. It's a real word you know. )

Why are you assuming the marine is saying Afghans and NOT the Taliban? Why must you trash our servicemen like that? Its pretty obvious thats what he is saying and anyone with a fair mind can realize this.

Noone said Afghans are beating their wives, now why are you assuming that? Some dark secret you hold?

Stop denying the Taliban abused women to further your cause.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: charrison
Marine general speaks bluntly about war. Navy offended. Am I supposed to be surprised by this?

What does the perception that certain people beat their wives have to do with wars?

umm ok....

He's a bit confused, maybe we should tell him who the enemy is and what atrocities they have commited.

This from a guy who doesn't even understand when people are owning his absurd posts? LOL.

Anyway, if you don't understand the part about people beating their wives, you didn't read the article.

Thanks for reminding that the taliban in afghanistan set the standard on how women should be treated. :roll:

 

[Steeplerot]

our armed forces have a long history of telling spouses domestic violence is their problem and ignoring it. please...

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
our armed forces have a long history of telling spouses domestic violence is their problem and ignoring it. please...

huh? :thumbsdown:

Is this the face of the radical left?

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
our armed forces have a long history of telling spouses domestic violence is their problem and ignoring it. please...

huh? :thumbsdown:

Is this the face of the radical left?

It's a generalization about marines. NOW do you see the problem with generalizing about Afghans and Iraqis? (Probably not knowing you).

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
our armed forces have a long history of telling spouses domestic violence is their problem and ignoring it. please...

huh? :thumbsdown:

Is this the face of the radical left?

It's a generalization about marines. NOW do you see the problem with generalizing about Afghans and Iraqis? (Probably not knowing you).

Tell me again why all women in afghanistan wore burqas under taliban rule....

 

[arsbanned]

Oh boy, another cowboy who gets his rocks off blowing people away. I seriously doubt there are very many guys over there who think this way. He's an aberration.

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: alchemize
I think you could find similar quotes from WW2 as well - was that "yee-haw foreign policy?" I remember distinctly reading in Flyboys (excellent book btw, I reccomend it) about our ships machinegunning Japanese in life-rafts, and being quite excited about it.

This is a typical example, however, of me taking a post and greatly distorting its purpose.

Fixed for you.

Go troll elsewhere.

So you belive that this person was directed by the administration, as part of "Yee-haw" foreign policy, to make these comments then?

Also - please don't call me a troll or I'll have to report you to the mods like you did me.

You deserved to be reported. You're a pain in the ass. I don't even care what your opinions are, it's just you. For instance, you could simply have avoided this thread, or, having come in, could have commented on the actual content, rather than targeting conjur with in your usual stalker-like manner.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
our armed forces have a long history of telling spouses domestic violence is their problem and ignoring it. please...

huh? :thumbsdown:

Is this the face of the radical left?

It's a generalization about marines. NOW do you see the problem with generalizing about Afghans and Iraqis? (Probably not knowing you).

You troll you, you master of spin, you lieing liar.

Wait, ARE you denying abuse of women under the Taliban regime??

DONT change the subject and talk about Afghans and Iraqis, we are talking about the Taliban terrorist regime which used to rule Afghanistan.

That innocent brave marine was saying that about the TALIBAN, not AFGHANS. And leave Iraq out of this

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: raildogg
You troll you, you master of spin, you lieing liar.

I thought you didn't like personal attacks?

Wait, ARE you denying abuse of women under the Taliban regime??

Learn to be relevant

DONT change the subject and talk about Afghans and Iraqis, we are talking about the Taliban terrorist regime which used to rule Afghanistan.

Actually, we aren't. You brought that is as a red herring.

That innocent brave marine was saying that about the TALIBAN, not AFGHANS. And leave Iraq out of this

Hmmm, let's look at what he ACTUALLY said:

"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for 5 years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis continued. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

Sounds like he's talking about Afghanistan in general. And if you had read the story you would undestand the comments came in response was related to Iraq.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Train
file this under "J" for same old Junk.

Marine bashing articles pop up 10 times a year, every year, war time or peace time, as far back as I can remember. The media loves to hate Marines, and this is nothing new.

Did he not say what he said? Nice attack on the motives that has nothing to do whether this guy deserves criticism.

deserves critisicn for what? being a general in an organization whos #1 job is to kill people? please.

I'm not going to bother to explain things to you, little e-warrior.

Did you even read what he said? Of course he is not being criticized for being a general, numbnut. LOL to your attemp at a personal attack.

Ya i read it, and thats the kind of thing generals say. Sorry it had to fall on your poor sensitive little ears. Like i said, iim not going to explain it because you cant even handle the simple stuff.

Come on, you make it sound as if all Marine Generals would be idiotic enough to stand up and gloat about slaughtering people, as if they are all a bunch of loud-mouthed buffoons. I don't think that's the case.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: raildogg
You troll you, you master of spin, you lieing liar.

I thought you didn't like personal attacks?

Wait, ARE you denying abuse of women under the Taliban regime??

Learn to be relevant

DONT change the subject and talk about Afghans and Iraqis, we are talking about the Taliban terrorist regime which used to rule Afghanistan.

Actually, we aren't. You brought that is as a red herring.

That innocent brave marine was saying that about the TALIBAN, not AFGHANS. And leave Iraq out of this

Hmmm, let's look at what he ACTUALLY said:

"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for 5 years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis continued. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

Sounds like he's talking about Afghanistan in general. And if you had read the story you would undestand the comments came in response was related to Iraq.

You didn't answer my questions or even respond to them, just posted some meaningless BS.

"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for 5 years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis continued. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

Our marines are not shooting Afghans, they are shooting the Taliban, just think for a second, who could he have been speaking of, the Afghan people or the members of Taliban?

Just common sense, please get some.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: arsbanned
Come on, you make it sound as if all Marine Generals would be idiotic enough to stand up and gloat about slaughtering people, as if they are all a bunch of loud-mouthed buffoons. I don't think that's the case.

That's the funny thing. The support-the-troops types are actually insulting the Marines by suggesting they are ignorant killer apes.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
our armed forces have a long history of telling spouses domestic violence is their problem and ignoring it. please...

huh? :thumbsdown:

Is this the face of the radical left?

No it is the voice of a former servicemember that knows better.

 

[ntdz]

You gotta have this kind of mentality when fighting a war. You can't humanize the enemy, it'll make it tougher to do your job.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
our armed forces have a long history of telling spouses domestic violence is their problem and ignoring it. please...

huh? :thumbsdown:

Is this the face of the radical left?

No it is the voice of a former servicemember that knows better.

I think raildogg had better call you brave and suck up like he does to all the other servicemembers. Let's have it raildogg.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
our armed forces have a long history of telling spouses domestic violence is their problem and ignoring it. please...

huh? :thumbsdown:

Is this the face of the radical left?

No it is the voice of a former servicemember that knows better.

I think raildogg had better call you brave and suck up like he does to all the other servicemembers. Let's have it raildogg.

answer my question I posted in my previous post. Nice try to avoid it

also keep avoiding the tough questions posted by a great member of P & N, although hes trying his best to get your attention

 

[Steeplerot]

huh? I would PM him if I wanted to know something

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: raildogg
Answer my question I posted in my previous post. Nice try to avoid it

also keep avoiding the tough questions posted by a great member of P & N, although hes trying his best to get your attention

The guy was speaking about people in Afghanistan and generalizing.

(Frankly you don't deserve a response as you don't understand most simple responses and you lack a basic knowledge of logic).


The fact that you think Charrison is a great member shows how clueless you are. Why should I repsond to a red herring:

Tell me again why all women in afghanistan wore burqas under taliban rule....

Do you know what a red herring is?

 

[raildogg]

Again, InfoHawk, respond to this:

quote:
"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for 5 years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis continued. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."



Our marines are not shooting Afghans, they are shooting the Taliban, just think for a second, who could he have been speaking of, the Afghan people or the members of Taliban?

You have posted earlier saying he was speaking of Afghans, which is totally false. Just clarify yourself

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: raildogg
Again, InfoHawk, respond to this:

quote:
"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for 5 years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis continued. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."



Our marines are not shooting Afghans, they are shooting the Taliban, just think for a second, who could he have been speaking of, the Afghan people or the members of Taliban?

You have posted earlier saying he was speaking of Afghans, which is totally false. Just clarify yourself

He's talking about "guys in Afghanistan." Hence Afghans. (I'm losing patience with your feeble brain).

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: raildogg
Again, InfoHawk, respond to this:

quote:
"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for 5 years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis continued. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."



Our marines are not shooting Afghans, they are shooting the Taliban, just think for a second, who could he have been speaking of, the Afghan people or the members of Taliban?

You have posted earlier saying he was speaking of Afghans, which is totally false. Just clarify yourself

He's talking about "guys in Afghanistan." Hence Afghans. (I'm losing patience with your feeble brain).

So our Marines are SHOOTING regular Afghans?? I'll try once again.

quote:
"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for 5 years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis continued. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

Our soldiers are trying to kill or capture the Taliban, so again, are they shooting at innocent Afghan civilians or the Taliban murderers who brutalized the women .

I know you'll get p!ssed, but oh well.