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JD50

Lifer
Sep 4, 2005
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Never meet your heroes... I try to separate the art from the artist and usually purposefully avoid digging too deep about their personal beliefs.

As for the sir and ma'am thing, as a southerner that's kind of a core part of my interaction with people, but I've been able to curb it pretty easily to prevent misgendering people. I'd personally just go with 'sir' for everyone in the service, but rank isn't a problem except in the Navy.

"Yes Chief Petty Engineer Boatswain's Mate Fourteenth Class Anderson!"

Navy is easy, that would just be Chief.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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Oct 9, 1999
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What the hell did Van do? Damn.
He's always been a bit of an oddball and, to many, a certifiable asshole. I first saw him in 1970 at the Villanova fieldhouse. Astral Weeks and, I believe, Moondance were out, and I loved, loved, loved both. But I had no idea what he looked like. He's really short and he came out and stood like an expressionless statue throughout his set. Not what I expected.

When I lived in Hollywood and Venice in the mid 70's I would run into no end of folks with "Van was an asshole" stories. Take that as you may.

Googling just now brought up these:
Van Morrison Outs Himself as a Right Wing Anti-Semite with New Album, Song: The “Moondance” Is Over

What happened to Van Morrison? The fall from eccentric genius to conspiracy theorist

Oh my! Certifiable asshole indeed. I still love the very best of his music. He's put out a ton of second and third rate stuff as well.
 
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Pohemi

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Oct 2, 2004
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Surely that's Bob Dylan you're thinking of?
Or Neil Young. Tom Petty. Jerry Garcia. Great songwriters all, but their voices and singing styles can turn some people away.
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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Seriously? Jerry Garcia? I'd rather be subjected to electric shock therapy than listen to him sing.
Hah, that's how I feel about Dylan and Young. Garcia I can at least handle. I've got weird taste in vocals, I guess.
 

Ackmed

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Oct 1, 2003
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It's ridiculous. Also, when addressing females and males you always address the female first, out of respect. Because we all used to that. "Good morning ma'am, sir." They do this, but still different PFT and CFT tests for males and females. Because most females would fail miserably at the male tests. Which would have a negative affect on promotions, because they factor into them.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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It's ridiculous. Also, when addressing females and males you always address the female first, out of respect. Because we all used to that. "Good morning ma'am, sir." They do this, but still different PFT and CFT tests for males and females. Because most females would fail miserably at the male tests. Which would have a negative affect on promotions, because they factor into them.
Sir this is an Arby’s
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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He's always been a bit of an oddball and, to many, a certifiable asshole. I first saw him in 1970 at the Villanova fieldhouse. Astral Weeks and, I believe, Moondance were out, and I loved, loved, loved both. But I had no idea what he looked like. He's really short and he came out and stood like an expressionless statue throughout his set. Not what I expected.

When I lived in Hollywood and Venice in the mid 70's I would run into no end of folks with "Van was an asshole" stories. Take that as you may.

Googling just now brought up these:
Van Morrison Outs Himself as a Right Wing Anti-Semite with New Album, Song: The “Moondance” Is Over

What happened to Van Morrison? The fall from eccentric genius to conspiracy theorist

Oh my! Certifiable asshole indeed. I still love the very best of his music. He's put out a ton of second and third rate stuff as well.
Amazing. So sad. Last time I saw something about him, he was seriously into Delta blues. So we appropriate music from people we hate. Interesting.
 

Ajay

Lifer
Jan 8, 2001
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Amazing. So sad. Last time I saw something about him, he was seriously into Delta blues. So we appropriate music from people we hate. Interesting.
I'm a bit confused here. How does one 'appropriate' music? It's like art, it's universal. No one who writes an opera today has 'appropriated' it from the Italians.
 

Ajay

Lifer
Jan 8, 2001
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Ask Jimmy Page and he’ll send you a brochure.
Well, I thought those were cases of literally 'stealing' guitar riffs. AFAIR, there was some sort of settlement. That's different from adopting a playing style. There are alot of 'bluesy" chords that fit the blues genre, so long as a musician doesn't do a wholesale grab, I don't see the problem. Of course, now we have copyright laws and there is allot more money at stake - so it's lawyersville for all. Anyway, still different than 'appropriating'.
 
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