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Yuriman

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any car that's over 155 at the crank is a power increase from my current car. The joy of being able to own a manual will be pretty great though.

Power to weight. Your 3 weighs in at ~3,000lbs, GTST weighs in at a relatively hefty 2900lbs, pretty crazy heavy for the era. I would only need 90HP under the hood of my hybrid for it to be quicker than your 3, and 100HP to make it faster than the Skyline. The RX-7, for comparison, was a 2500lb car. 90's Civic hatches were ~2100lbs. CRX HF which everyone loved to swap was only 1820lbs.

But, I get it. You're not buying the car because it's fast (a new Toyota Camry is a fair bit faster), but because it's the one.
 

bradly1101

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Damn, I shoulda got a '17 Nippon Previa hybrid, but the Sienna is great, I drive about 3 miles per week with a spotless record toward anything but a narrow opening at my old place. I keep having to up my limits cuz in-empathetic police officers.

Can't the forces be good?

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sdifox

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oh

Yeah I have 0 experience what so ever and I expect a lot of headaches, but I'm willing and it's well documented.

They say never meet your idols, but my true dream car would be a GTR. My obtainable dream car is the GTST with the swap. I have some expectations with the car, but that's not in the power department; however, any car that's over 155 at the crank is a power increase from my current car. The joy of being able to own a manual will be pretty great though.


Dude you don't remeber him posting a picture of his GT-R with back seats jam packed with LEGO boxes?
 

T_Yamamoto

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sdifox

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deadlyapp

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Madoka is the sort of person (gathering from his posts) who is extremely conservative with his money, which has allowed him to be very unrestricted in his car purchases. He also has a 20 year old or something econobox that he's been driving forever - so if you're frugal and you're willing to limit your normal expenditures in order to buy a nice car - it's not that hard.

My old roommate for example. He's mid 20's, been in the job force about 5 years now since graduating, makes decent money (~$75k/yr engineer) and lives in one of the more expensive places in the USA (SoCal beach city), and bought a Ferrari 348ts a year ago - cash. He was able to do this simply because he was willing to rent a room in a shared house for a number of years (~$800-900/mo), drove a paid off diesel VW bug that has like 300k miles on it, and is extraordinarily frugal.
 

Viper GTS

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Oct 13, 1999
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Madoka is the sort of person (gathering from his posts) who is extremely conservative with his money, which has allowed him to be very unrestricted in his car purchases. He also has a 20 year old or something econobox that he's been driving forever - so if you're frugal and you're willing to limit your normal expenditures in order to buy a nice car - it's not that hard.

My old roommate for example. He's mid 20's, been in the job force about 5 years now since graduating, makes decent money (~$75k/yr engineer) and lives in one of the more expensive places in the USA (SoCal beach city), and bought a Ferrari 348ts a year ago - cash. He was able to do this simply because he was willing to rent a room in a shared house for a number of years (~$800-900/mo), drove a paid off diesel VW bug that has like 300k miles on it, and is extraordinarily frugal.

This could not be further from the truth, the only thing he is frugal about is fast food.

oh

Yeah I have 0 experience what so ever and I expect a lot of headaches, but I'm willing and it's well documented.

They say never meet your idols, but my true dream car would be a GTR. My obtainable dream car is the GTST with the swap. I have some expectations with the car, but that's not in the power department; however, any car that's over 155 at the crank is a power increase from my current car. The joy of being able to own a manual will be pretty great though.

In my experience it's worth doing. I spent a small fortune owning my Viper (around $2.25/mile for the 15,000 miles I put on it). Yes it was absurdly expensive and a terrific waste. But I enjoyed every single one of those miles (save maybe a few where I got stuck in the cold with the top off) and do not regret a penny of it. I sold it when I was kind of done with the Gen 2 thing but I'll own another one soon.

Viper GTS
 

T_Yamamoto

Lifer
Jul 6, 2011
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Madoka is the sort of person (gathering from his posts) who is extremely conservative with his money, which has allowed him to be very unrestricted in his car purchases. He also has a 20 year old or something econobox that he's been driving forever - so if you're frugal and you're willing to limit your normal expenditures in order to buy a nice car - it's not that hard.

My old roommate for example. He's mid 20's, been in the job force about 5 years now since graduating, makes decent money (~$75k/yr engineer) and lives in one of the more expensive places in the USA (SoCal beach city), and bought a Ferrari 348ts a year ago - cash. He was able to do this simply because he was willing to rent a room in a shared house for a number of years (~$800-900/mo), drove a paid off diesel VW bug that has like 300k miles on it, and is extraordinarily frugal.
This could not be further from the truth, the only thing he is frugal about is fast food.

In my experience it's worth doing. I spent a small fortune owning my Viper (around $2.25/mile for the 15,000 miles I put on it). Yes it was absurdly expensive and a terrific waste. But I enjoyed every single one of those miles (save maybe a few where I got stuck in the cold with the top off) and do not regret a penny of it. I sold it when I was kind of done with the Gen 2 thing but I'll own another one soon.

Viper GTS
I guess Madoka is a mystery man.

I do plan on keeping my car that I have now for as long as possible (up until it starts causing me too many headaches).

In terms of saving up for a car, I am trying to live frugally. The keyword is try. I want to buy the car outright while also saving up for a wide variety of things. I'm worried that by the time I could afford a GTR, I would already be needing that money for other things (wedding, house, etc.) and my thought is that if I don't lock it down while I'm still free, then I may never have another chance.
 

nakedfrog

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I'd say buy an NA Miata for $2k to learn to drive manual, and to get your feet wet on mechanical work. Worst case you turn around and sell it for pretty much what you paid. It's easy to say "I want to do this laundry list of things to my dream car" when you don't have real-life perspective on what you're signing up for. Just my opinion, of course.
 
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T_Yamamoto

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I'd say buy an NA Miata for $2k to learn to drive manual, and to get your feet wet on mechanical work. Worst case you turn around and sell it for pretty much what you paid. It's easy to say "I want to do this laundry list of things to my dream car" when you don't have real-life perspective on what you're signing up for. Just my opinion, of course.
I thought about that too and it seems like a good idea.

Several of my friends own manual (but none currently don't have time/neither do I, to learn manual plus it's winter) but I plan on learning soon.
 
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