Martial Art that is best workout?

[coreyb]

Second hardest would be BJJ when doing a class full of takedowns. Especially sparring takedowns, they tire the shit out of you!

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

i'd say bjj.

mma is a good sport to get into if you want to get in shape.
boxing, wrestling, bjj, muay thai, ground stuff(not exactly sure if this fits into anything but it makes you sweat). your stamina is definitely going to go up.

i'd say do krav if you're interested in self defense.

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[LongTimePCUser]

You said that you wanted to get into meditation and then progress into weapons.

If those are more important to you than a "good workout" and fitness training, then a very good answer would be a traditional Tai Chi Chuan teacher.

The taiji forms are done slowly with the emphasis on control, balence, movement and chi training. You won't break out a sweat but you will be learning stuff Karate people start to learn around 3rd or 4th dan. There is also a much lower injury rate.

The normal progression in Tai Chi Chuan is to learn an empty hand form and then to progress to a sword form. Broad sword and straight sword. Along the way there will be push hands training and form application including throws and joint locks. Some schools will also teach a fan form. Yes, the fan is a weapon.

But, make sure that you get a good, traditional teacher who learned Tai Chi Chuan as a martial art and not just as a meditation art. Expect the learning process to take a long time. Be patient. Chen style tends to me more martial, initially than Yang style. But, Yang style is more widely taught. You can either learn the 24 form Yang style or the long form. You can learn 24 form faster and it has all the essential elements of the long forms.

The key to learning any martial art is to fing a good teacher who is willing to teach you the stuff that need to learn.

 

[irishScott]

Almost any MA will give you an awesome workout if taught right, but I'd have to place Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Muay Thai Kickboxing at the top. Most physically intense I've seen.

 

[Zapper48]

When I was in my mid-20's I studied Shorin-Ryu (Traditional Okinawan Karate)
Awsome workouts and a devastating fighting style.

 

[coreyb]

i wouldnt call karate a devastating fighting style. there is a reason everyone in MMA trains bjj, muay thai, boxing and wrestling. not karate. its ok to have it as a background or start out with it. but i wouldnt feel confident only knowing that style.

 

[Zapper48]

Originally posted by: coreyb
i wouldnt call karate a devastating fighting style. there is a reason everyone in MMA trains bjj, muay thai, boxing and wrestling. not karate. its ok to have it as a background or start out with it. but i wouldnt feel confident only knowing that style.

Sure everyone has their own opinion,but having used it in self defense myself is good enough for me.Putting 19 stiches on one attackers face and breaking the other's jaw
using only my feet.I was specific when I said Shorin-Ryu and not "karate".Our workouts were also very intense almost military in nature.Your opinion is valid but so is mine.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: Zapper48

Originally posted by: coreyb
i wouldnt call karate a devastating fighting style. there is a reason everyone in MMA trains bjj, muay thai, boxing and wrestling. not karate. its ok to have it as a background or start out with it. but i wouldnt feel confident only knowing that style.

Sure everyone has their own opinion,but having used it in self defense myself is good enough for me.Putting 19 stiches on one attackers face and breaking the other's jaw
using only my feet.I was specific when I said Shorin-Ryu and not "karate".Our workouts were also very intense almost military in nature.Your opinion is valid but so is mine.

Well, if you had fought someone equally skilled in something else... you may not have ended up so lucky. A moderately-skilled BJJ practitioner can negate a lot of karate styles with a simple takedown. Things like Muay Thai can counter with knees and throws. Karate doesn't have much of a defense for it.

 

[conorvansmack]

This thread has gotten away from the OP's main question of "which martial art is the best workout?". He didn't ask "which fighting style is best".

I think refining our answers down to a strength workout or a cardio workout would be best.

FWIW, I found that BJJ made the best use of strength and muay thai gave me the best cardio, but those are the only martial arts that I have any experience with.

 

[Zapper48]

All I'm saying is that for me it was the best of both.for someone else YMMV.
I guess because I did a traditional non-Americanized style my perspective is different.
As far as workouts i considered it excellent,granted there are many styles/forms of Karate.
To the OP all I would say is try some different ones and see which one(s) you like.

 

[gar655]

Another one- if you want conditioning train like a collegiate or Olympic free style wrestler. Go to any Univeristy and the most physically fit and pound for pound strongest guys on campus are the wrestlers.

See what it's done for G"S"P's career. (edit accomplished. My life is now complete)

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: gar655
Another one- if you want conditioning train like a collegiate or Olympic free style wrestler. Go to any Univeristy and the most physically fit and pound for pound strongest guys on campus are the wrestlers.

See what it's done for GPS's career.

Agree that wrestling is fantastic for application and fitness. However, it's hard to find a place that trains in it other than the MMA places. I wish there were wrestling gyms like boxing gyms all over the place because I would definitely work on it.

 

[coreyb]

Yeah ^^ I would love to get some serious wrestling training myself. Some Judo guys have some pretty badass throws and take downs too.

 

[conorvansmack]

Originally posted by: gar655
Another one- if you want conditioning train like a collegiate or Olympic free style wrestler. Go to any Univeristy and the most physically fit and pound for pound strongest guys on campus are the wrestlers.

See what it's done for GPS's career.

Global Positioning . . . . ?

I bet those satellites are kickass wrestlers.

Perchance you meant GSP?

 

[gar655]

Originally posted by: conorvansmack

Originally posted by: gar655
Another one- if you want conditioning train like a collegiate or Olympic free style wrestler. Go to any Univeristy and the most physically fit and pound for pound strongest guys on campus are the wrestlers.

See what it's done for GPS's career.

Global Positioning . . . . ?

I bet those satellites are kickass wrestlers.

Perchance you meant GSP?

No I really did mean GPS. I guess I need to edit that.
Thanks

 

[xeno2060]

BTW, even comp level forms/kata training will promote very good cardio and muscular endurance. Anyone who hasn't done it, I invite to learn, then do, a black belt level comp form at comp intensity 15 times in a single night's session. Trying to get everything tight and right, then get back to me with your opinion.

You mean like this!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: xeno2060
BTW, even comp level forms/kata training will promote very good cardio and muscular endurance. Anyone who hasn't done it, I invite to learn, then do, a black belt level comp form at comp intensity 15 times in a single night's session. Trying to get everything tight and right, then get back to me with your opinion.

You mean like this!

You completely butchered that quote brudda

I'm stoked we have a Shotokan Dojo to train in again. :beer: See you tonight@8 p.m. I'll bring the WD40 this time

 

[Warman]

has anyone ever tried krav maga ?

is it any good as far as workouts go?

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: Warman
has anyone ever tried krav maga ?

is it any good as far as workouts go?

No I haven't tried it, but good Krav Maga studios always train at 100% intensity since it's often your life that's at stake. 100% intensity even for a short time will kick you ass flat. Go try a trial. They usually have em.

 

[presidentender]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: Warman
has anyone ever tried krav maga ?

is it any good as far as workouts go?

No I haven't tried it, but good Krav Maga studios always train at 100% intensity since it's often your life that's at stake. 100% intensity even for a short time will kick you ass flat. Go try a trial. They usually have em.

There's a difference between high-intensity and 100% intensity. Always training at 100% intensity is a recipe for injury. That said, yes, Krav Maga guys train hard (I suppose the guys I know always seem to be hurt, too. Hmm...)

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: presidentender

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: Warman
has anyone ever tried krav maga ?

is it any good as far as workouts go?

No I haven't tried it, but good Krav Maga studios always train at 100% intensity since it's often your life that's at stake. 100% intensity even for a short time will kick you ass flat. Go try a trial. They usually have em.

There's a difference between high-intensity and 100% intensity. Always training at 100% intensity is a recipe for injury. That said, yes, Krav Maga guys train hard (I suppose the guys I know always seem to be hurt, too. Hmm...)

That's a direct quote I've heard from one of the Krav Maga trainers. There's no physically possible way of doing so, but he adamantly stands by the 100% intensity rule.