Martial Law?

[HomerJS]

A deranged thread.

Are you saying using the military on US citizens on US soil isn’t martial law?

Trump suggests he'll use the military on 'the enemy from within' the U.S. if he's reelected

During his first term as president, Donald Trump tested the limits of how he could use the military to achieve policy goals. If given a second term, the Republican and his allies are preparing to go much further, reimagining the military as an all-powerful tool to deploy on U.S. soil.

www.pbs.org

Let me introduce you to the Insurrection Act of 1807

Insurrection Act of 1807 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Moonbeam]

There is no doubt that Trump is totally deranged, and is paranoid that his enemies are everywhere.

The question is how utterly deranged is he? To what actions will his mental illness drive him? He has the blessing of SCOTUS that he is all powerful and invincible to validate in his mind there are no restrictions on what he can do.

Thus, how soon will he declare Martial Law?

You like the Democratic party knew Trump is deranged but they did nothing to stop him. We all know the story of 'would you kill Hitler as a child in you could go back in time". Trump has been a fascist for quite some time and is now playing his Hitler role. They figure the death toll from WWII to be up to 80 million. Democrats like everybody else are worried only about themselves. It is useless to tell people they will pick you off one by one if you don't act as a group to stop fascism but here it comes.

 

[mikeymikec]

Why would he need to declare martial law?

If that bit of news about secret service agents attempting to enter an elementary school in Chicago because a kid posted a mean video about Trump is accurate, then Trump imposing martial law is a certainty.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Ooh! If you hate presidential pardons you're going to really hate this Trump guy!

lol Brandon is brain rotted. Traitor trump literally pardoned traitors last go around

 

[zinfamous]

A deranged thread.

the baby-grenader is calling other people deranged.

look at this fucking cockstain think that he has any ideas.

 

[zinfamous]

Seems like they got pardons for all their legal activity over the last 4 years. Should have renamed them to "The Joe Biden Presidential Preemptive Medal of Freedom". I won't pardon my son.

Is your skull caved in on one side or something? I'm just trying to figure out what the fuck happened to you.

 

[MtnMan]

Two points;

• If the threat of Martial Law causes people to fail to exercise their rights, is that not Martial Law in essence
• If members of Congress are prevented from entering facilities they are legally entitled to enter, i.e. the US Department of Education by armed federal offers, is that not Martial Law? https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5132685-department-of-education-musk-doge-trump-frost/

 

[HomerJS]

Marshall Law sounds like a western from the 1950s.

Marshall Law is the Bruce Lee character in Tekken

 

[HomerJS]

Your help is always appreciated Moonie, it's not about being right or wrong, or what your opinion is, it's about being so far off the mark that a rational person has to question whether the person that started the thread is even trying to be reasonable, accurate or honest. In this particular thread the OP and some responders are neither honest, accurate or reasonable. They get the label of deranged because the worked so hard to earn it.

You can call people deranged all you want but most the bad shit in the Trump prediction thread will come true.

You also have to called them right

 

[Moonbeam]

That the election of Trump carried with it an obvious unlimited potential for disaster, and still now no indication that such is not the case, in my opinion you can blame Biden and the fact he didn't get rid of Merrick Garland for all of this. Thanks to those two weaselly moral cowards there will be a huge increase in suffering world wide suffering and it is already happening.

 

[compcons]

That the election of Trump carried with it an obvious unlimited potential for disaster, and still now no indication that such is not the case, in my opinion you can blame Biden and the fact he didn't get rid of Merrick Garland for all of this. Thanks to those two weaselly moral cowards there will be a huge increase in suffering world wide suffering and it is already happening.

Sorry, but I see your conservative brain has to place blame on those two rather than the Republicans in congress who didn't allow any actual investigations into Trump or allowed an impeachment with witnesses and evidence. Or the republicans that have never stepped up to cry foul on incursions against the constitution. Perhaps place some blame on the hoards of voters who chose Trump and Republicans or just stayed home?

Your philosophical views are so heavily influenced by your conservative brain, you lose credibility. Once again, we see the responsibility of being rational falling to Democrats, allowing the spineless, dumbfuck Republicans to skate by.

 

[Moonbeam]

Sorry, but I see your conservative brain has to place blame on those two rather than the Republicans in congress who didn't allow any actual investigations into Trump or allowed an impeachment with witnesses and evidence. Or the republicans that have never stepped up to cry foul on incursions against the constitution. Perhaps place some blame on the hoards of voters who chose Trump and Republicans or just stayed home?

Your philosophical views are so heavily influenced by your conservative brain, you lose credibility. Once again, we see the responsibility of being rational falling to Democrats, allowing the spineless, dumbfuck Republicans to skate by.

The fact that any legal rational traditional democratic remedy for the Trump psychopathy would be and was prevented by Republicans in congress creates an imminent threat that Trump winning the election would mean the end of the rule of law. Like the laws that govern self defense and justifiable warfare, one is permitted and duty demands deterrent by any means. You can't let psychopath have access to power because they care nothing about what they do. Furthermore, as the Republican party is also a threat to the nation, like the Germans outlawed the Nazi Party, we should have, using martial law, done the same. Biden was morally incapable of acting because he was blind to the truth of what monsters can be created by self hate. You have to be able to see it before you can even begin to understand it.

 

[compcons]

The fact that any legal rational traditional democratic remedy for the Trump psychopathy would be and was prevented by Republicans in congress creates an imminent threat that Trump winning the election would mean the end of the rule of law. Like the laws that govern self defense and justifiable warfare, one is permitted and duty demands deterrent by any means. You can't let psychopath have access to power because they care nothing about what they do. Furthermore, as the Republican party is also a threat to the nation, like the Germans outlawed the Nazi Party, we should have, using martial law, done the same. Biden was morally incapable of acting because he was blind to the truth of what monsters can be created by self hate. You have to be able to see it before you can even begin to understand it.

I don't disagree, but Republican voters ultimately put us in harms way because they consistently vote for a party that has, for decades, done nothing but support exactly what is happening now. Like all conservatives, they have focused on enriching and empowering themselves. Their voters too, lack empathy and reasoning and supported them blindly or out of hate.

To lay that at the feet of a few is not appropriate. Although I agree that Biden was a bust in the end and the Democratic party should have seen this shit coming 20 years ago and corrected course. Unfortunately they did not.

The dismantling of America constitutes...

 

[Moonbeam]

I don't disagree, but Republican voters ultimately put us in harms way because they consistently vote for a party that has, for decades, done nothing but support exactly what is happening now. Like all conservatives, they have focused on enriching and empowering themselves. Their voters too, lack empathy and reasoning and supported them blindly or out of hate.

To lay that at the feet of a few is not appropriate. Although I agree that Biden was a bust in the end and the Democratic party should have seen this shit coming 20 years ago and corrected course. Unfortunately they did not.

The dismantling of America constitutes...

Where I differ in opinion in all of this , since you insist of the responsibility Republicans bear, is that I see all of this as an inevitability, the product of childhood conditioning that none of us could escape. We reacted as we had to in order to survive at a time and an age where no personal responsibility could possibly apply. We were helpless children forced to turn against ourselves. Rather than cast blame or feel rage against others we should be crying about what happened and practice compassion and forgiveness like any child we see now violated and persecuted

Not saying that what I believe and am always capable practicing are the same thing.

 

[MtnMan]

It seems that the odds of First Lady Donald declaring Martial Law are increasing. President Musk is pushing Trump to pardon Derek Chauvin, which will likely result in race riots, then under President Musk's direction, Trump can declare Martial Law.

Wonder how long before Musk is given POA to sign documents for Trump.

 

[fskimospy]

It seems that the odds of First Lady Donald declaring Martial Law are increasing. President Musk is pushing Trump to pardon Derek Chauvin, which will likely result in race riots, then under President Musk's direction, Trump can declare Martial Law.

Wonder how long before Musk is given POA to sign documents for Trump.

Maybe they are trying to outrage people and Chauvin absolutely deserves to rot in prison for murdering Floyd. The thing is Trump pardoning him wouldn't actually get him out of prison, it would just get him transferred to a state prison as he was also sentenced to like 20 years in prison under state law.

So who knows what the results are of doing this other than making some Nazis happy but at least the immediate effect is just a different cell for that guy.

 

[NWRMidnight]

It seems that the odds of First Lady Donald declaring Martial Law are increasing. President Musk is pushing Trump to pardon Derek Chauvin, which will likely result in race riots, then under President Musk's direction, Trump can declare Martial Law.

Wonder how long before Musk is given POA to sign documents for Trump.

Why would they cause race riots, when Derek Chauvin wills till be sitting in jail for murdering George Floyd, as that conviction is state level? Pardoning Derek Chauvin for civil rights violations won't cause riots. It will piss some people off, which is understandable, but it won't cause riots.. As wrong as it is, we have civil right violations excused on a daily basis around this country. A riot won't happen unless he gets pardoned for Floyd's murder at the state level, which won't happen.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Why would they cause race riots, when Derek Chauvin wills till be sitting in jail for murdering George Floyd, as that conviction is state level? Pardoning Derek Chauvin for civil rights violations won't cause riots. It will piss some people off, which is understandable, but it won't cause riots.. As wrong as it is, we have civil right violations excused on a daily basis around this country. A riot won't happen unless he gets pardoned for Floyd's murder at the state level, which won't happen.

What makes you think Trump isn't going to send Schutzstaffel over to pick Chauvin up from the federal lockup when he is released from the pardon and give him a nice cushy SS job after saving him?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I'm just short of confident that my newly-acquired Resident Chief of Housekeeping leans more toward Harris than Trump, but her ex-husband -- my cousin -- has been a Trumper.

Anyway, she'd been visiting her daughter yesterday -- probably stayed over there one night, then appeared around 8PM. Brief conversation. She went upstairs.

Then, Trump appeared on the TEE_VEE spouting his latest attempt to outdo himself in creating outrage, and I started shouting at the TEE VEE. Obviously, Jill heard me upstairs. She had left the house this morning before 7AM. Best I could do was to text an apology, but I've lost control of myself before this.

If he DOES go the distance to declare Martial Law, there may be enough people to push back despite the heightened risk.

Everything he's done so far telegraphs a desire to destroy -- not just government -- but everything. If he really is a "KGB" (now FSB) asset, all of his decisions and actions are consistent with that. And I'm fairly confident on my opinions about this. I don't know how half of congress and about half the electorate do not see and understand it.

 

[HomerJS]

Maybe they are trying to outrage people and Chauvin absolutely deserves to rot in prison for murdering Floyd. The thing is Trump pardoning him wouldn't actually get him out of prison, it would just get him transferred to a state prison as he was also sentenced to like 20 years in prison under state law.

So who knows what the results are of doing this other than making some Nazis happy but at least the immediate effect is just a different cell for that guy.

I guess it would prove that people here like
@pcgeek11 @Greenman @brandonbull @FelixDeCat

were correct that Trump isn't a flaming racist /s

yet again

 

[NWRMidnight]

What makes you think Trump isn't going to send Schutzstaffel over to pick Chauvin up from the federal lockup when he is released from the pardon and give him a nice cushy SS job after saving him?

What the fuck are you smoking? So where is Chauvin going to live where he is safe from extradition laws that every state has? He would be a fugative and would be immeditaly arrested by local/state police across the nation and extradited to Minnesota.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

How do you not know who Marshal Law is?
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Fuck yeah that was a good comic. I believe it was the watchmen before the watchmen
Edit: maybe it copied the watchmen

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm just short of confident that my newly-acquired Resident Chief of Housekeeping leans more toward Harris than Trump, but her ex-husband -- my cousin -- has been a Trumper.

Anyway, she'd been visiting her daughter yesterday -- probably stayed over there one night, then appeared around 8PM. Brief conversation. She went upstairs.

Then, Trump appeared on the TEE_VEE spouting his latest attempt to outdo himself in creating outrage, and I started shouting at the TEE VEE. Obviously, Jill heard me upstairs. She had left the house this morning before 7AM. Best I could do was to text an apology, but I've lost control of myself before this.

If he DOES go the distance to declare Martial Law, there may be enough people to push back despite the heightened risk.

Everything he's done so far telegraphs a desire to destroy -- not just government -- but everything. If he really is a "KGB" (now FSB) asset, all of his decisions and actions are consistent with that. And I'm fairly confident on my opinions about this. I don't know how half of congress and about half the electorate do not see and understand it.

I would say in that in the case of congress its because most are there to earn a living peddling their votes. Their primary focus is on keeping their jobs by staying away from controversy, I would say. They play a game of institutionalism to hide their cowardliness.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

What the fuck are you smoking? So where is Chauvin going to live where he is safe from extradition laws that every state has? He would be a fugative and would be immeditaly arrested by local/state police across the nation and extradited to Minnesota.

He'll be Florida Man or they can send him to Texas. Don't know why you think we still live in a nation where laws matter.

 

[NWRMidnight]

He'll be Florida Man or they can send him to Texas. Don't know why you think we still live in a nation where laws matter.

Serously, you are reaching.. say no to drugs.. Florida and Texas both would arrest him and extradite him.