Marvel/Netflix's Daredevil

[Anonemous]

I disliked Elektra for some reason. And oh yeah Frank Castle kicked ass. I oddly enough enjoyed him more than DD this season. DD just came off as too preachy and self righteous (without going into any spoilers).

Yea I didn't like how DD flip flops around on his beliefs during the season.

 

[Phoenix86]

I disliked Elektra for some reason. And oh yeah Frank Castle kicked ass. I oddly enough enjoyed him more than DD this season. DD just came off as too preachy and self righteous (without going into any spoilers).

Punisher is a GREAT contrast to DD. I really like how the story played out.

There were a few iffy writing/delivery issues. Elektra/DD ~20 minutes before the end for example, and there was a scene with Karen that should seemed extremely flat I think in the 2nd to last ep.

Overall I loved it, but there were a few scenes that stuck out like sore thumbs.

 

[Charmonium]

Yea I didn't like how DD flip flops around on his beliefs during the season.

Seriously? Oh thank dog. I'm getting really tired of the Polyanna bulls*** - I'm around ep8

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Finished it. I loved this season. It wasn't perfect but it was great. Especially the part where

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Fisk re-enters the scene and gains his "Kingpin" status.

Also, if you think of the Netflix shows as one "long" movie, it works out better since you'll get your sequel next year.

 

[Childs]

It was pretty damn good, about as good as it could have been. Only minor complaints were

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Foggy being a whiney biotch in the first few episodes, and Punisher conveniently showing up at the end. I think they could have done better like having The Blacksmith point Punisher towards The Hand or something. Or even having DD ask for his help. I guess they implied he heard about it on the scanner when he was making his Punisher vest, but it could have been integrated better. If he would have known Karen was a hostage he would have went to save her, so I don't get why he wasn't more directly involved.

Kinda funny, but in the last episode I was thinking they only thing missing was having DD swing from building to building, then Gladiator gave him the trademark baton. :biggrin: Kingpin's mini arc was great. They did a good job of showing a Punisher and Kingpin interaction. And I really liked Elecktra, especially the way she says "Mathew". Its intimate and superior at the same time. Stick was great too. I guess the only other person I kinda wanted to see was Stone. He wasn't even mentioned this season, but last season it seemed like he was running The Chaste. The season had no real filler though, so I don't know how he'd fit in other than look badass like he did last season.

 

[Skel]

I just finished the season. I didn't like it as well as I liked last season. It just didn't gel together as well. I'm pretty sure I'm the only person that didn't really like this version of the Punisher. It just felt too much like Shane from the Walking Dead for me. It's hard to explain, but it just felt off.. I admit that I'm being a bit picky about it as I just finished rereading Garth Ennis' epic Punisher run (Volume 6 that become Punisher Max is the best Punisher series ever written. I can't recommend it enough), but even when I attempted to step away from that I just felt his story spent too long trying to convince me he was just after revenge when the Punisher is much more than that.

I did like Electra for the most part. At least they got an actress that looked the part. I'm not sure on the whole ending of her story

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I really really want Bullseye, and want him killing her even more as Miller was brilliant the way he wrote that

but all in all I was OK with her.

The rest of the supporting people I could live without. I just didn't really feel that Foggy or Page added much to the story,

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Even with Page's new job, which I'm amused as normally one studies Journalism before getting a job like that. I'm sure all the aspiring writers would be heartbroken if they knew. If anything it supports my feelings from last season that they made a mistake killing Ben off.

 

[Phoenix86]

It just felt too much like Shane from the Walking Dead for me.

I didn't get that AT ALL. I was extremely happy with his performance and the writing around the Punisher overall. I was worried about this from the casting.

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I especially liked the prison scene where he saw the skull imprint in the reflection in his shirt. Motherfucking EPIC shit right there

 

[Skel]

I didn't get that AT ALL. I was extremely happy with his performance and the writing around the Punisher overall. I was worried about this from the casting.

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I especially liked the prison scene where he saw the skull imprint in the reflection in his shirt. Motherfucking EPIC shit right there

I'd say maybe it was just me, but I've seen a lot of other people make the same complaint. At the least, the actor plays them very similar. It wasn't the worst thing I saw from the way they did Punisher. Every time they said "Military grade weapons" I cringed. I loved the scene

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where he was loading up 556 ammo and DD was saying something like "I see you know your way around military grade weapons." The wife laughed and said I had military grade weapons in my closet if that's what it is. I try not to let that stuff bother me as it's just bad writing, but for some reason this got under my skin, maybe because they kept saying it.

I also didn't get why they waited so long to put the skull on him. That could be because in the Ennis stuff he talks about how it's vital as it buys him a few seconds before people shoot back. In this case though, I didn't understand why they didn't put him in it. It's not like it'd be out of place when he's standing next to DD. Of course this is the same series that waited until the last EP to put Electra into something that looked like her comic costume. The show has a thing about revealing it's fashion lineup.

 

[Phoenix86]

I'd say maybe it was just me, but I've seen a lot of other people make the same complaint. At the least, the actor plays them very similar. It wasn't the worst thing I saw from the way they did Punisher. Every time they said "Military grade weapons" I cringed. I loved the scene

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where he was loading up 556 ammo and DD was saying something like "I see you know your way around military grade weapons." The wife laughed and said I had military grade weapons in my closet if that's what it is. I try not to let that stuff bother me as it's just bad writing, but for some reason this got under my skin, maybe because they kept saying it.

I also didn't get why they waited so long to put the skull on him. That could be because in the Ennis stuff he talks about how it's vital as it buys him a few seconds before people shoot back. In this case though, I didn't understand why they didn't put him in it. It's not like it'd be out of place when he's standing next to DD. Of course this is the same series that waited until the last EP to put Electra into something that looked like her comic costume. The show has a thing about revealing it's fashion lineup.

Well it's likely the actor doesn't have a ton of range and both characters share some traits, so I understand how people see Shane. It's not like I didn't see it, I was just able to get over it where with other actors I have a hard time when they play similar roles. Maybe it was the writing.

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That line was way overused. It'd be one thing if they overused it by media/DA saying it but they could have broken up the monotony by having others not use it. DD could have said heavy weapons for example.

They do that a lot with the costumes, last season with DD as well. I didn't mind it, but at the same time I'd like to have seen more of those costumes.

 

[Childs]

I'd say maybe it was just me, but I've seen a lot of other people make the same complaint. At the least, the actor plays them very similar.

I dunno, Shane in Walking Dead was a decent dude before he went crazy with jealousy. But even then he was either backstabby or crazy, and his portrayal of Punisher was neither. It could just be that you will always associate that actor with Shane on TWD. Its the same with me when I see the actor who played Shane (hehe) on The Shield doing other things.

 

[freeskier93]

It was pretty damn good, about as good as it could have been. Only minor complaints were

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Foggy being a whiney biotch in the first few episodes, and Punisher conveniently showing up at the end. I think they could have done better like having The Blacksmith point Punisher towards The Hand or something. Or even having DD ask for his help. I guess they implied he heard about it on the scanner when he was making his Punisher vest, but it could have been integrated better. If he would have known Karen was a hostage he would have went to save her, so I don't get why he wasn't more directly involved.

Kinda funny, but in the last episode I was thinking they only thing missing was having DD swing from building to building, then Gladiator gave him the trademark baton. :biggrin: Kingpin's mini arc was great. They did a good job of showing a Punisher and Kingpin interaction. And I really liked Elecktra, especially the way she says "Mathew". Its intimate and superior at the same time. Stick was great too. I guess the only other person I kinda wanted to see was Stone. He wasn't even mentioned this season, but last season it seemed like he was running The Chaste. The season had no real filler though, so I don't know how he'd fit in other than look badass like he did last season.

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Yeah, in that last fight scene on the roof I was really expecting some massive hoarde of ninjas and for Frank to come in guns blazing mowing them all down, then tipping his hat while riding off into the sunset. Instead all he did was take a couple pot shots across the way then bug the fuck out. Kinda lame.

Matt dropping the DD bomb on Karen was unexpected though.

 

[Newbian]

The whole ninja's being invisible to him because they cover their heartbeats is annoying and got old quickly as they should make noise from everything else like footsteps and breathing that he could hear yet somehow he doesn't.

Gets bad in some episodes because of this as even if they are zombies because of the reviving they can do it still doesn't make sense unless it's talked about in the last 2 episodes as I am finishing them up today.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

The whole ninja's being invisible to him because they cover their heartbeats is annoying and got old quickly as they should make noise from everything else like footsteps and breathing that he could hear yet somehow he doesn't.

Gets bad in some episodes because of this as even if they are zombies because of the reviving they can do it still doesn't make sense unless it's talked about in the last 2 episodes as I am finishing them up today.

Breathing is mentioned later on. I guess ninjas have quiet footsteps though.

 

[Newbian]

Breathing is mentioned later on. I guess ninjas have quiet footsteps though.

Yea the next episode explained it but it still doesn't make much sense as it took him this long yet he can hear people watching tv 3 story's down but not breathing or footsteps 5 feet away.

Or even the sound of limbs moving through the air yet thin metal swords made enough sound to hear for him when waved in air.

Just one of those lame excuses to save until the end of a series.

 

[Childs]

Yea the next episode explained it but it still doesn't make much sense as it took him this long yet he can hear people watching tv 3 story's down but not breathing or footsteps 5 feet away.

Or even the sound of limbs moving through the air yet thin metal swords made enough sound to hear for him when waved in air.

Just one of those lame excuses to save until the end of a series.

Just chalk it up to ninjas spending their lives training to be sneaky.

 

[zinfamous]

tried starting episode 9 late the other night, dozed off pretty soon in.

wake up and punisher is getting all super stabby and I'm like...holywtf?

so I had to rewind and watch the last 20 minutes or so that I had just missed.

I'm up to episode 11 now.

I still like this more than first season, but same complaints as before:

--while the action is generally great, there is far too much of the "minor" action...if that makes any sense. Simple beating up up some faceless ninjas that are simply in your way takes way too fucking long. it's like that horrendous scene in Matrix 2 that goes on for hours with hundreds of that cartoon mr smith guy. This brings down the brilliant set pieces like the elaborate fight against the Biker gang ~episode 3 or 4, and the prison stabby scene (also in season 1 episode 3 or 4, when DD goes apeshit on those kidnappers in that apartment building--very much like Oldboy, and it was great). Just beautiful and perfectly choreographed & edited pieces that end up getting diluted by much of the other action sequences that are simply too tedious and pointless.

along the same lines--the exposition and dialogues between characters. DD and Castle (graveyard), DD and Elektra (his partment), DD and Fisk (prison)....these moments go on way way way too long and if you are able to pay attention to what they are saying instead of trailing off after the first 3 minutes of these overlong scenes, you realize they are saying the exact same thing about 4 times each, with different phrasing. And not only are they covering the same concepts over and over in each conversation...they really aren't saying anything very profound or engaging. least not themes that deserve a 5 minute scene. Basically: the writing is pretty terrible in these shows.

exactly like my complaints with season 1 and Jessica Jones: these seasons are 3 episodes too long, and it is primarily due to needless and repetitive dialogue, lazy plotting, and overlong and pointless action sequences (DD, primarily) that dilutes the brilliant stuff.

The beats appear in rather strange places from episode to episode throughout the series, and I suppose this is a result of writing for non-commercial, release-all-at-once programming with a fluid run time (episodes are running between 42-55 minutes that I have noticed). I think it was episode 10 or 9, where something happens in the first 3 or 4 minutes, essentially a continuation of a scene that sort of begins and continues through to the end of the previous episode, that really should have ended that previous episode.

It's strange.

 

[Eug]

That was frackin' awesome. 9/10!

Now I will have a void in my heart until March 2017.

 

[sourceninja]

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[Bubbleawsome]

That was frackin' awesome. 9/10!

Now I will have a void in my heart until March 2017.

We have Jessica Jones season 2 and Luke Cage this year too. Maybe not as good but they should hold you over. I'll be really sad that there is no more purple man though, he was an incredible character.

I loved the series and this is the best punisher yet. I give it 9/10.

I agree, the punisher was great. My favorite part of this season honestly.

 

[Eug]

We have Jessica Jones season 2 and Luke Cage this year too. Maybe not as good but they should hold you over. I'll be really sad that there is no more purple man though, he was an incredible character.

Looking forward to the Jessica Jones 2.

Not sold on Luke Cage just yet, but we'll see. I will definitely watch that, of course.

 

[Anonemous]

Yea the next episode explained it but it still doesn't make much sense as it took him this long yet he can hear people watching tv 3 story's down but not breathing or footsteps 5 feet away.

Or even the sound of limbs moving through the air yet thin metal swords made enough sound to hear for him when waved in air.

Just one of those lame excuses to save until the end of a series.

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Yea they also don't go into details which ninjas are undead/zombies and which aren't (which could explain why they don't have a heart beat but doesn't explain why they need to breathe)

 

[Newbian]

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Yea they also don't go into details which ninjas are undead/zombies and which aren't (which could explain why they don't have a heart beat but doesn't explain why they need to breathe)

It seems like it was just a way to keep people alive for a long time and to bring them back alive when killed but they probably only use it for important people as they seemed to only have the one revive pod that we saw.

Stick mentioned they found the way to bring back the dead so I guess this was the way.

If I recall in season one he slowed his heartbeat when he was hiding to lure DD in so I guessed he taught it to everyone else.

 

[SKORPI0]

Just started episode 4, oh the opening scene.

 

[TeeJay1952]

Cool! I watched first 3 last night, really enjoyed and now this note.

 

[Skel]

Yea the next episode explained it but it still doesn't make much sense as it took him this long yet he can hear people watching tv 3 story's down but not breathing or footsteps 5 feet away.

Or even the sound of limbs moving through the air yet thin metal swords made enough sound to hear for him when waved in air.

Just one of those lame excuses to save until the end of a series.

One of the few things that makes me scratch my head at this series is the lack of understanding his powers. I thought he was supposed to have a radar sense that uses sound and the like to allow him to 'see' everything around him. It's why you can't sneak up on him and what not. In the stuff with the Hand, he suddenly can't track them at all because no heart beats? It makes even less sense that suddenly getting the breathing trick would allow him to go all Kung Fu. You'd figure there would be enough going on around him with background noises that it wouldn't matter if they breathed or had heartbeats because that noise should kick his radar on. It's really mixed on if he has radar sense or just super hearing/smelling.

It seems like it was just a way to keep people alive for a long time and to bring them back alive when killed but they probably only use it for important people as they seemed to only have the one revive pod that we saw.

Stick mentioned they found the way to bring back the dead so I guess this was the way.

If I recall in season one he slowed his heartbeat when he was hiding to lure DD in so I guessed he taught it to everyone else.

I thought all the Hand were 'undead' the ones in the morgue were all dead before they got there. It's another place where the show was inconstant.