Marvel Unveils Phase 3 of Their Movies

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poofyhairguy

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Seems like they use Captain America's movies as the big thing to drive the MCU other than the Avengers, almost like an Avengers-lite. Which is probably smart, as it ensures the most dated super hero they are trotting out doesn't have another semi-boring movie like his first one was.
 

zinfamous

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Avengers: Infinity War – Part I - I hope it follows the Jim Starlin story, from the early 90s.

Captain Marvel - pass.

Inhumans - pass.

Avengers: Infinity War – Part II - ,.. this CAN pick up where the latest Infinity story went,.. which would be quite epic. But, again, the Part I would be preferable to take on Starlin's story.

It won't, because the Avengers were barely anything in the Marvel world of the 90s. It was mostly X-Men, Cosmic stories, and probably Spider Man as the top content in those days.

Starlin stuff was almost purely cosmic: Thanos was his baby, and anything that ever mattered with regard to Starlin's Infinity stories always involved Warlock, Surfer, Galactus and other cosmic beings as the relevant entities. The earthbound heroes (except for Dr Strange, I think), were pretty much useless fodder in Starlin's world. Apparently, Marvel didn't really like Starlin's stuff, or he just annoyed them. whatever.

This is after I was reading comics, but I think there was some Thanos vs Avengers, massive storyline not too long ago--there is this expensive trade paperback that collects some 24+? comics that are involved in this story--that is Avengers vs Thanos. Apprently it's incredibly dumb (if you prefer Starlin's bizarre work, as I always did).

It's pretty clear that the Marvel Studios franchise is Avengers--bound, which from what I have read, as been the Marvel comics world focus for a while now. Everything has been leading to some massive Avengers vs Thanos storyline.

Were it Starlin's Infinity world, You would have 2 and a half acts of this creepy Warlock dude floating around between dimensions and consciousness, debating with ghosts of Thanos and fighting mental projections of Thanos. Warlock would then eventually recruit all of earth's heroes to help him; he would have them all slaughtered in a manner of seconds only to have Thanos distracted for those2 seconds, so Surfer could speed him across solar systems in that 2 second's time to help him snatch the glove, thus gaining omnipotence.

I don't think Marvel wants that in a film....but I would find it hilarious.
 

zinfamous

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Oh, and I thought a Black Widow film was confirmed? Weird that isn't on the list in that time frame....unless it never really was confirmed?
 

Aikouka

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Oh, and I thought a Black Widow film was confirmed? Weird that isn't on the list in that time frame....unless it never really was confirmed?

I wonder if Black Widow would be relegated to a Netflix series or something like that? I mean... Black Widow could lead an interesting movie, but an interesting Marvel movie? I wonder if the expectations are too high for lots of whiz-bang-boom in our comic book movies. Captain America films, which tends to feature Black Widow, are the only ones that seem to really go against that grain.
 

smackababy

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Oct 30, 2008
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It won't, because the Avengers were barely anything in the Marvel world of the 90s. It was mostly X-Men, Cosmic stories, and probably Spider Man as the top content in those days.

Starlin stuff was almost purely cosmic: Thanos was his baby, and anything that ever mattered with regard to Starlin's Infinity stories always involved Warlock, Surfer, Galactus and other cosmic beings as the relevant entities. The earthbound heroes (except for Dr Strange, I think), were pretty much useless fodder in Starlin's world. Apparently, Marvel didn't really like Starlin's stuff, or he just annoyed them. whatever.

This is after I was reading comics, but I think there was some Thanos vs Avengers, massive storyline not too long ago--there is this expensive trade paperback that collects some 24+? comics that are involved in this story--that is Avengers vs Thanos. Apprently it's incredibly dumb (if you prefer Starlin's bizarre work, as I always did).

It's pretty clear that the Marvel Studios franchise is Avengers--bound, which from what I have read, as been the Marvel comics world focus for a while now. Everything has been leading to some massive Avengers vs Thanos storyline.

Were it Starlin's Infinity world, You would have 2 and a half acts of this creepy Warlock dude floating around between dimensions and consciousness, debating with ghosts of Thanos and fighting mental projections of Thanos. Warlock would then eventually recruit all of earth's heroes to help him; he would have them all slaughtered in a manner of seconds only to have Thanos distracted for those2 seconds, so Surfer could speed him across solar systems in that 2 second's time to help him snatch the glove, thus gaining omnipotence.

I don't think Marvel wants that in a film....but I would find it hilarious.

Thanos just wouldn't make a great Marvel movie, especially with the Infinity Gauntlet. I mean, all of Earth's might was only enough to distract a Thanos tricked into not being omnipotent for a few seconds. And, with how they are treating the stones and lack of real cosmics in Guardians of the Galaxy, I just don't see the movies going that way. Thanos will be akin to some flavor of the week garbage, that he was never supposed to be.
 

ImpulsE69

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Thanos just wouldn't make a great Marvel movie, especially with the Infinity Gauntlet. I mean, all of Earth's might was only enough to distract a Thanos tricked into not being omnipotent for a few seconds. And, with how they are treating the stones and lack of real cosmics in Guardians of the Galaxy, I just don't see the movies going that way. Thanos will be akin to some flavor of the week garbage, that he was never supposed to be.

Um..hello? Might check my link above....
 

Paratus

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Thanos just wouldn't make a great Marvel movie, especially with the Infinity Gauntlet. I mean, all of Earth's might was only enough to distract a Thanos tricked into not being omnipotent for a few seconds. And, with how they are treating the stones and lack of real cosmics in Guardians of the Galaxy, I just don't see the movies going that way. Thanos will be akin to some flavor of the week garbage, that he was never supposed to be.

Um..hello? Might check my link above....



Yup how could anyone believe Thanos will be the big bad....

 

Phoenix86

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I think he meant that version of Thanos would make a good movie, and it wouldn't. Of course that's not the version we're getting. The gems in the movies don't have the individual powers in the comics, why would the gauntlet?
 

zinfamous

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I think he meant that version of Thanos would make a good movie, and it wouldn't. Of course that's not the version we're getting. The gems in the movies don't have the individual powers in the comics, why would the gauntlet?

Exactly. Thanos is not going to be battling cosmic beings, all the while smashing entire planets that some Celestials recruit into service merely to destroy him.




That simply isn't going to happen with this concept of the Infinity Gems and Thanos.

I think that is what happened when Starlin left Marvel, and those dudes brought back Thanos as some sort of weenie that suddenly needs this army to do his bidding against a bunch of heroes that he used to smoosh with a snap of his fingers...literally.
 

Phoenix86

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That simply isn't going to happen with this concept of the Infinity Gems and Thanos.

I think that is what happened when Starlin left Marvel, and those dudes brought back Thanos as some sort of weenie that suddenly needs this army to do his bidding against a bunch of heroes that he used to smoosh with a snap of his fingers...literally.
Yeah, I brought this up regarding super heroes, there's no way you can have comic book level powers with a good story in a movie setting. It was bad enough with the hero powers, but toss something like the infinity gauntlet in the mix and it's way overboard. Plus the religion connection, basically with the IG you are god.

Here's the list of the top powers: control all living life in the universe, Omniscience, Omnipresence, access all minds in existence simultaneously, fulfill wishes, Omnipotence. There's simply no story to defeat something that strong. Even in the comics I bet it pissed people off (endless stream of "how did you do X if Thanos knew Y because of Z).
 

smackababy

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I think he meant that version of Thanos would make a good movie, and it wouldn't. Of course that's not the version we're getting. The gems in the movies don't have the individual powers in the comics, why would the gauntlet?

I meant the version of Thanos from the comics, especially, the Infinity Gauntlet, would make a terrible Avengers movie. Thanos battles cosmic beings on more than equal footing. He then defeats and becomes Eternity. That is after he defeats Galactus, Cronos, Order, Chaos, two celestials, Epoch and the Stranger. It just doesn't make sense for a movie.

Here's the list of the top powers: control all living life in the universe, Omniscience, Omnipresence, access all minds in existence simultaneously, fulfill wishes, Omnipotence. There's simply no story to defeat something that strong. Even in the comics I bet it pissed people off (endless stream of "how did you do X if Thanos knew Y because of Z).
Thanos, when fighting the Avengers, "turned off" omnipotence and control of time and space in order to give them a small chance. He only used the infinity gem of power to fight the entirety of Earth's forces to impress death. This was a ruse, however, as Adam Warlock knew it wouldn't be enough to stop him, merely a distraction and even that failed. Then, the real powerful beings joined the fight. In the end, Thanos simply goofed and it was explained that he always does that because he knows he doesn't deserve to be all powerful, despite having the abilities to achieve this multiple times.

A better movie would be Thanos attempting to get the Cosmic Cube (the Tesseract) on Earth, as he wasn't all powerful when he did that.
 
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smackababy

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:thumbsup:

...I just hope that Marvel manages to get the rights to Surfer back, and they do justice to Warlock (meaning, he isn't completely the comic book bizarro Warlock). We did see his cocoon in Guardians, so I only assumed he will be involved

I am more hoping they do Thanos justice. I am fine with him not having cosmic power, but please make him bad ass! He isn't a meaner Loki. This guy needs to fight all the Avengers at once, and barely lose. Make him the Mad Titan he was on Titan!
 

zinfamous

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I am more hoping they do Thanos justice. I am fine with him not having cosmic power, but please make him bad ass! He isn't a meaner Loki. This guy needs to fight all the Avengers at once, and barely lose. Make him the Mad Titan he was on Titan!

yes, and hopefully he murders a few of them in the process. Looking at you, Hawkeye.

--seriously, why is Hawkeye there? wtf....
 

Phoenix86

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May 21, 2003
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yes, and hopefully he murders a few of them in the process. Looking at you, Hawkeye.

--seriously, why is Hawkeye there? wtf....
I'm sure they would rather have spider man in there, but they can't. Would you rather have no one there or another available character?
 

Imp

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Where's He-Man in all of this?

And it looks like Robert Downey went to renew his license at the DMV after this announcement.
 

smackababy

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I'm sure they would rather have spider man in there, but they can't. Would you rather have no one there or another available character?

Add in some throw away heroes and murder them! Besides, they can kill all the main heroes as well. So long as whoever gets the gems resets everything, it's all good!


Also, the trailer for Avengers 2 with them all trying to pick up the hammer is pretty awesome. Especially, when Rodgers moves it and you see Thor's face like "oh shit!".
 

Phoenix86

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Also, the trailer for Avengers 2 with them all trying to pick up the hammer is pretty awesome. Especially, when Rodgers moves it and you see Thor's face like "oh shit!".

After seeing that I'm 100% sure he uses it, either in that movie or it's a setup for A3. He's the "most worthy" of the Avengers, imo, and dat broken shield...
 
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