Mary Cheney on Larry King

[randym431]

I didn?t see the show, but read the cnn transcript. I was a bit taken back. I sure hope she never becomes any kind of formal spokes person for the gay cause. She reminded me of the black people in the south in the 50's. As long as they kept in their place, they were allowed in society, separated as they were.
I was especially insulted at her answer when Larry ask her about gay marriage. She said she "felt" married already. Not good enough Mary...

And then she added they both have things like power of attorney, as if that was enough. You can have joint power of attorney with someone else, but that power is dead and null and void the moment the other person should die. Then law and blood family take over. Its the blood family then that makes the decisions as to property and wishes of the deceased, not the life partner.

Really a bit sickening, her interview and views. With spokes persons like that, who needs the Jerry Falwells or pat Robertsons.
No, she doesn?t have to go public and speak her views on gay issues just because she is Gay, but in her case I wish she wouldn?t and just shut up.

 

[AntaresVI]

So, you think that because she has a different view than you, she should shut up? How tolerant of you.

 

[IamDavid]

I love Laura Bush but can't stand Mary. She seems so fake.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: IamDavid
I love Laura Bush but can't stand Mary. She seems so fake.

Laura has such a wonderful "deer-in-the-headlights look. It's hard NOT to like her. You almost feel sorry for her...

 

[IamDavid]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: IamDavid
I love Laura Bush but can't stand Mary. She seems so fake.

Laura has such a wonderful "deer-in-the-headlights look. It's hard NOT to like her. You almost feel sorry for her...

True, but she seems to be the kind of person who would step up and kick some A** if need be.. I wish she's do more interviews alone, whithout GW.

Sorry OP for getting of subject.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: IamDavid

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: IamDavid
I love Laura Bush but can't stand Mary. She seems so fake.

Laura has such a wonderful "deer-in-the-headlights look. It's hard NOT to like her. You almost feel sorry for her...

True, but she seems to be the kind of person who would step up and kick some A** if need be.. I wish she's do more interviews alone, whithout GW.

Sorry OP for getting of subject.

Heck, it the rumors of her car accident bear any truth, then you're right...dead right!

 

[Tab]

Link to the transcript?

 

[CanOWorms]

I saw her on Larry King and some other show being interviewed earlier this week at the gym, so maybe I'm confusing them together. But she claimed to be for gays in the military, adopting children, etc. I don't think that she's against gay marriage, just happy in her relationship. She says that she disagrees with Bush's views on gays.

 

[zendari]

Haha, Mary Cheney apparently isn't gay enough for the leftwingers; you have to move lockstep with the agenda.

 

[Thump553]

I caught part of the interview-it was pretty interesting (and I can't stand Larry King's fawning interview style). She was articulate and came across as rationale. My favorite part-King asked her what is the major public misimpression about your father? She responded that he is not Darth Vader.

Although I disagreed with nearly everything she said, she came across as a honest person and one whom I could respect-in short, lightyears ahead of anyone in the official administration.

zendari, your comment shows a narrow tunnel vision, a continual propensity to push your agenda in the total absence of any supporting facts. If you want to persuade people, get a clue first.

 

[Buck Armstrong]

I loved Bill Maher's review of her book:

1. My Daddy's the Vice President
2. I like pvssy
3. The end

 

[techs]

Mary Cheney was asked what should have been done in New Orleans.
She said someone should have stuck a finger in the dike.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: techs
Mary Cheney was asked what should have been done in New Orleans.
She said someone should have stuck a finger in the dike.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: IamDavid

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: IamDavid
I love Laura Bush but can't stand Mary. She seems so fake.

Laura has such a wonderful "deer-in-the-headlights look. It's hard NOT to like her. You almost feel sorry for her...

True, but she seems to be the kind of person who would step up and kick some A** if need be.. I wish she's do more interviews alone, whithout GW.

Sorry OP for getting of subject.

You mean like running a stop sign and killing her boyfriend kind of ass kicking? If so, laura's your gal.
Personally, I think she's a vapid shell of a person.

baby, you can drive my car...

Mary Cheney isn't going to rock the foundation or be a spokesperson anytime soon. It's a shame considering the weight her name could carry.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: randym431
I didn?t see the show, but read the cnn transcript. I was a bit taken back. I sure hope she never becomes any kind of formal spokes person for the gay cause. She reminded me of the black people in the south in the 50's. As long as they kept in their place, they were allowed in society, separated as they were.
I was especially insulted at her answer when Larry ask her about gay marriage. She said she "felt" married already. Not good enough Mary...

And then she added they both have things like power of attorney, as if that was enough. You can have joint power of attorney with someone else, but that power is dead and null and void the moment the other person should die. Then law and blood family take over. Its the blood family then that makes the decisions as to property and wishes of the deceased, not the life partner.

Really a bit sickening, her interview and views. With spokes persons like that, who needs the Jerry Falwells or pat Robertsons.
No, she doesn?t have to go public and speak her views on gay issues just because she is Gay, but in her case I wish she wouldn?t and just shut up.

It's interesting that "open minded" liberals are all about the free exchange of ideas until those ideas conflict with their own positions. Then everyone should just STFU.

As to your complaint as to who makes the decisions after death... A simple will can take care of that. Good grief, if you're going to go throught he hassle of a dual POA you're certainly going to have wills drawn up. If you want your life partner to make the decisions, make them the executor of the will and give them power to make the arrangements.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: randym431
I didn?t see the show, but read the cnn transcript. I was a bit taken back. I sure hope she never becomes any kind of formal spokes person for the gay cause. She reminded me of the black people in the south in the 50's. As long as they kept in their place, they were allowed in society, separated as they were.
I was especially insulted at her answer when Larry ask her about gay marriage. She said she "felt" married already. Not good enough Mary...

And then she added they both have things like power of attorney, as if that was enough. You can have joint power of attorney with someone else, but that power is dead and null and void the moment the other person should die. Then law and blood family take over. Its the blood family then that makes the decisions as to property and wishes of the deceased, not the life partner.

Really a bit sickening, her interview and views. With spokes persons like that, who needs the Jerry Falwells or pat Robertsons.
No, she doesn?t have to go public and speak her views on gay issues just because she is Gay, but in her case I wish she wouldn?t and just shut up.

It's interesting that "open minded" liberals are all about the free exchange of ideas until those ideas conflict with their own positions. Then everyone should just STFU.

As to your complaint as to who makes the decisions after death... A simple will can take care of that. Good grief, if you're going to go throught he hassle of a dual POA you're certainly going to have wills drawn up. If you want your life partner to make the decisions, make them the executor of the will and give them power to make the arrangements.

Are you and zendari in bed together or something? There is no "liberal" group that identifies with one set of ideas... You are just lumping people together and then generalizing based on a post on a messageboard? That is why I never go around calling people "conservative" or "liberal"... of course, if you just want to bash the other side like you and zendari seem to be more interested in, continue the generalizations and random groupings of people together.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Are you and zendari in bed together or something? There is no "liberal" group that identifies with one set of ideas... You are just lumping people together and then generalizing based on a post on a messageboard? That is why I never go around calling people "conservative" or "liberal"... of course, if you just want to bash the other side like you and zendari seem to be more interested in, continue the generalizations and random groupings of people together.

Quote: "She said she "felt" married already. Not good enough Mary... "
"No, she doesn?t have to go public and speak her views on gay issues just because she is Gay, but in her case I wish she wouldn?t and just shut up. "

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: AntaresVI
So, you think that because she has a different view than you, she should shut up? How tolerant of you.

Cindy Sheehan needs to shut up already.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: zendari
Haha, Mary Cheney apparently isn't gay enough for the leftwingers; you have to move lockstep with the agenda.

I'd say it's more like Mary has to move in lockstep with the Republican agenda. Even if she did support gay marraige I doubt she would publically admit it.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: randym431
I didn?t see the show, but read the cnn transcript. I was a bit taken back. I sure hope she never becomes any kind of formal spokes person for the gay cause. She reminded me of the black people in the south in the 50's. As long as they kept in their place, they were allowed in society, separated as they were.
I was especially insulted at her answer when Larry ask her about gay marriage. She said she "felt" married already. Not good enough Mary...

And then she added they both have things like power of attorney, as if that was enough. You can have joint power of attorney with someone else, but that power is dead and null and void the moment the other person should die. Then law and blood family take over. Its the blood family then that makes the decisions as to property and wishes of the deceased, not the life partner.

Really a bit sickening, her interview and views. With spokes persons like that, who needs the Jerry Falwells or pat Robertsons.
No, she doesn?t have to go public and speak her views on gay issues just because she is Gay, but in her case I wish she wouldn?t and just shut up.

It's interesting that "open minded" liberals are all about the free exchange of ideas until those ideas conflict with their own positions. Then everyone should just STFU.

As to your complaint as to who makes the decisions after death... A simple will can take care of that. Good grief, if you're going to go throught he hassle of a dual POA you're certainly going to have wills drawn up. If you want your life partner to make the decisions, make them the executor of the will and give them power to make the arrangements.

You don't see me complaining.

Mary is free to speak her mind and go on TV and talk about gay issues, but that doesn't mean she's free from criticism.

Isn't that the freeper/wingnut code?

 

[Thump553]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
. . .

It's interesting that "open minded" liberals are all about the free exchange of ideas until those ideas conflict with their own positions. Then everyone should just STFU.

As to your complaint as to who makes the decisions after death... A simple will can take care of that. Good grief, if you're going to go throught he hassle of a dual POA you're certainly going to have wills drawn up. If you want your life partner to make the decisions, make them the executor of the will and give them power to make the arrangements.

I just spent several hours meeting with a gay couple, and will probably spend at least a dozen more researching and drafting custom documents for them to cover such mundane things as health care decisions, simple estate planning, etc. The sort of thing I ordinarily charge a married couple maybe $200 for. I would have to charge these people more like $20k if I fully billed it. In addition, the gay couple still faces unsatisfactory and incomplete solutions, even with the help of counsel and in one of the very few states that recognizes so-called civil unions.

With all due respect, you don't have the slightest idea of what you are talking about.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: randym431
I didn?t see the show, but read the cnn transcript. I was a bit taken back. I sure hope she never becomes any kind of formal spokes person for the gay cause. She reminded me of the black people in the south in the 50's. As long as they kept in their place, they were allowed in society, separated as they were.
I was especially insulted at her answer when Larry ask her about gay marriage. She said she "felt" married already. Not good enough Mary...

And then she added they both have things like power of attorney, as if that was enough. You can have joint power of attorney with someone else, but that power is dead and null and void the moment the other person should die. Then law and blood family take over. Its the blood family then that makes the decisions as to property and wishes of the deceased, not the life partner.

Really a bit sickening, her interview and views. With spokes persons like that, who needs the Jerry Falwells or pat Robertsons.
No, she doesn?t have to go public and speak her views on gay issues just because she is Gay, but in her case I wish she wouldn?t and just shut up.

It's interesting that "open minded" liberals are all about the free exchange of ideas until those ideas conflict with their own positions. Then everyone should just STFU.

As to your complaint as to who makes the decisions after death... A simple will can take care of that. Good grief, if you're going to go throught he hassle of a dual POA you're certainly going to have wills drawn up. If you want your life partner to make the decisions, make them the executor of the will and give them power to make the arrangements.

Are you and zendari in bed together or something? There is no "liberal" group that identifies with one set of ideas... You are just lumping people together and then generalizing based on a post on a messageboard? That is why I never go around calling people "conservative" or "liberal"... of course, if you just want to bash the other side like you and zendari seem to be more interested in, continue the generalizations and random groupings of people together.

That's fair enough. But if you take away my liberal stereotyping the message is still the same. Mary Cheney won't toe the gay majority line so she is told to STFU. God forbid she has her own opinion.

I threw out the liberal label because it never fails that when a member of a specific (primarily liberal) group (gays, blacks, environmentalists) refuses to go along with the group-think they are shouted down. Look at Bill Cosby, Clarence Thomas, etc. And now Mary Cheney. The list of examples is long.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Thump553

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
. . .

It's interesting that "open minded" liberals are all about the free exchange of ideas until those ideas conflict with their own positions. Then everyone should just STFU.

As to your complaint as to who makes the decisions after death... A simple will can take care of that. Good grief, if you're going to go throught he hassle of a dual POA you're certainly going to have wills drawn up. If you want your life partner to make the decisions, make them the executor of the will and give them power to make the arrangements.

I just spent several hours meeting with a gay couple, and will probably spend at least a dozen more researching and drafting custom documents for them to cover such mundane things as health care decisions, simple estate planning, etc. The sort of thing I ordinarily charge a married couple maybe $200 for. I would have to charge these people more like $20k if I fully billed it. In addition, the gay couple still faces unsatisfactory and incomplete solutions, even with the help of counsel and in one of the very few states that recognizes so-called civil unions.

With all due respect, you don't have the slightest idea of what you are talking about.

Interesting. So once you've done the initial work can you effectively 'boiler plate' the majority of the paperwork? It would seem to me... and of course I'm not a lawyer... that once you've set up one couple, another couple wouldn't be so drastically different that you'd have to reinvent the wheel every time one of them came in.

 

[Corn]

The liberati really hates freedom of speech........listening to you whine about Bush shredding the constitution makes me laugh.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Corn
The liberati really hates freedom of speech........listening to you whine about Bush shredding the constitution makes me laugh.

Mary's just whoring out to help sell her new book "Now it's my Turn". A real chip off the old block!!